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i have heard that solution and to be honest would calm alot of people. On the other hand is it not all of our safety we are concerned about? if it is not safe that os the bottom line is it not????
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I know the last two comments by brassplate and DesertHawk were meant to be well-intentioned, however, haven't you forgotten another critical part of the team here-- namely the cabin crew?
We probably have enough Bahraini boys to keep staffing the A320 to Bagdhad, but I expect it would be a challenge. To ignore the concerns of the rest of the cabin crew would be selfish. After all, we are responsible for their safety too and so is the Company.
I am still hoping for the Company to open discussion to address crews' concerns, and more critically, to win buy-in to this business plan. Mr. Majali has already stated in his opening "Hello Gulf Air" address that "strategy and its implementation must come from within"-- from the employees.
We probably have enough Bahraini boys to keep staffing the A320 to Bagdhad, but I expect it would be a challenge. To ignore the concerns of the rest of the cabin crew would be selfish. After all, we are responsible for their safety too and so is the Company.
I am still hoping for the Company to open discussion to address crews' concerns, and more critically, to win buy-in to this business plan. Mr. Majali has already stated in his opening "Hello Gulf Air" address that "strategy and its implementation must come from within"-- from the employees.
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i dont think that i am uglyread . The name doesn't make sense. so whats with him? any way, what were you saying about the US army and the 340?
you mean that a 340 was almost shot down by the US army?
no one ever told me that before .
you mean that a 340 was almost shot down by the US army?
no one ever told me that before .
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Mr. Majali has already stated in his opening "Hello Gulf Air" address that "strategy and its implementation must come from within"-- from the employees.
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You mean . . . Step 1-- create a virtual airline?
What is the website address for Parc Aviation or Air Icelandic again so that we can fly "for" Gulf Air?
What is the website address for Parc Aviation or Air Icelandic again so that we can fly "for" Gulf Air?
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Gulf Air plans to sack 272 workers: union
Gulf Air plans to sack 272 workers: union
(AFP) – 10 minutes ago
MANAMA — Gulf Air trade unions on Sunday alleged the struggling Bahrain-owned carrier is planning to dismiss 272 workers within three months as part of a restructuring plan.
"The company plans to fire 272 Bahraini and foreign workers by the end of October. We have (copies) of (dismissal) letters sent to some employees and names of those targetted by the company's redundancy plan," the union's deputy chief Ghazi al-Murbati told AFP.
Gulf Air's new chief executive officer, Samer al-Majali, appointed last month, has stated in a letter to employees that "previous administrations have failed to achieve a comprehensive restructuring" of the company, Murbati said.
The union official said a plan to sack employees in foreign locations has already started.
Gulf Air chairman, Talal al-Zain, however, denied claims of redundancy plans, saying that "there was no intention to sack any employee in the company's new strategy," Al-Watan daily reported on Sunday.
Gulf Air was set up in 1974 by Bahrain, Oman, Qatar and Abu Dhabi. It has been exclusively owned by Bahrain since May 2007.
The company is estimated to have around 30 aircraft, and has plans to modernise its fleet.
Its chairman said in March that it was planning to add 13 new aircraft to its fleet before the end of the year through leasing and buying new planes.
In January 2008, Gulf Air said it signed a deal to buy 16 Boeing-787 Dreamliner with the option to buy eight others in a deal worth four billion dollars, while it ordered 35 Airbus medium and long-haul aircraft worth five billion dollars in May of the same year.
Source: AFP
(AFP) – 10 minutes ago
MANAMA — Gulf Air trade unions on Sunday alleged the struggling Bahrain-owned carrier is planning to dismiss 272 workers within three months as part of a restructuring plan.
"The company plans to fire 272 Bahraini and foreign workers by the end of October. We have (copies) of (dismissal) letters sent to some employees and names of those targetted by the company's redundancy plan," the union's deputy chief Ghazi al-Murbati told AFP.
Gulf Air's new chief executive officer, Samer al-Majali, appointed last month, has stated in a letter to employees that "previous administrations have failed to achieve a comprehensive restructuring" of the company, Murbati said.
The union official said a plan to sack employees in foreign locations has already started.
Gulf Air chairman, Talal al-Zain, however, denied claims of redundancy plans, saying that "there was no intention to sack any employee in the company's new strategy," Al-Watan daily reported on Sunday.
Gulf Air was set up in 1974 by Bahrain, Oman, Qatar and Abu Dhabi. It has been exclusively owned by Bahrain since May 2007.
The company is estimated to have around 30 aircraft, and has plans to modernise its fleet.
Its chairman said in March that it was planning to add 13 new aircraft to its fleet before the end of the year through leasing and buying new planes.
In January 2008, Gulf Air said it signed a deal to buy 16 Boeing-787 Dreamliner with the option to buy eight others in a deal worth four billion dollars, while it ordered 35 Airbus medium and long-haul aircraft worth five billion dollars in May of the same year.
Source: AFP
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Gulf Air denies plan
By DANIEL MUNDEN, Posted on » Monday, August 10, 2009
GULF Air last night dismissed reports it was planning to sack 272 Bahraini and expatriate employees within three months as part of restructuring plans.
Trade unionists claimed to have evidence the airline was planning to reduce its workforce from 5,072 to 4,800.
However, in a joint statement Gulf Air chairman Talal Alzain and chief executive officer Samer Majali denied any such plans existed.
"Further to stories in today's media about Gulf Air making redundancy plans, Gulf Air can confirm that these stories are inaccurate," the statement said. "Any current positions being made redundant are through natural attrition and those resulting from employee misconduct."
Despite this, Gulf Air Trade Union chairman Mustafa Al Tooq said he was hoping for a meeting with Gulf Air management and the General Federation of Bahrain Trade Unions on Wednesday to discuss the matter further.
By DANIEL MUNDEN, Posted on » Monday, August 10, 2009
GULF Air last night dismissed reports it was planning to sack 272 Bahraini and expatriate employees within three months as part of restructuring plans.
Trade unionists claimed to have evidence the airline was planning to reduce its workforce from 5,072 to 4,800.
However, in a joint statement Gulf Air chairman Talal Alzain and chief executive officer Samer Majali denied any such plans existed.
"Further to stories in today's media about Gulf Air making redundancy plans, Gulf Air can confirm that these stories are inaccurate," the statement said. "Any current positions being made redundant are through natural attrition and those resulting from employee misconduct."
Despite this, Gulf Air Trade Union chairman Mustafa Al Tooq said he was hoping for a meeting with Gulf Air management and the General Federation of Bahrain Trade Unions on Wednesday to discuss the matter further.
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Safety has been compromised by commercial viability.
And as a pilot, we should not allow this to happen because safety should not be compromised. I am sure many pilots are in the "RED" or "AMBER" about operating to Baghdad and the management should take it seriously.
Baghdad might be a goldmine, but at the same time it could well be a landmine or a time bomb as well. All it take is one bomb, one missile, one casualty. Whether there is pressure from high above or not, the timing is not right to operate to Baghdad at the moment.
Have the commercial people told you that there are demands somewhere else that is safer to operate?
Have you considered GF's former goldmines like Colombo, Jakarta, and Dublin?
And winter holiday is fast approaching, how about those snowbirds from Scandinavia and Russia wanting to travel to warm and sunny tropical weather in Thailand and Malaysia?
GF is not RJ. Bahrain is not Jordan. And I do not want to get into politic and religion conflict.
And as a pilot, we should not allow this to happen because safety should not be compromised. I am sure many pilots are in the "RED" or "AMBER" about operating to Baghdad and the management should take it seriously.
Baghdad might be a goldmine, but at the same time it could well be a landmine or a time bomb as well. All it take is one bomb, one missile, one casualty. Whether there is pressure from high above or not, the timing is not right to operate to Baghdad at the moment.
Have the commercial people told you that there are demands somewhere else that is safer to operate?
Have you considered GF's former goldmines like Colombo, Jakarta, and Dublin?
And winter holiday is fast approaching, how about those snowbirds from Scandinavia and Russia wanting to travel to warm and sunny tropical weather in Thailand and Malaysia?
GF is not RJ. Bahrain is not Jordan. And I do not want to get into politic and religion conflict.
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and the carnage continues. today's news....
46 killed, hundreds wounded in Iraq attacks - CNN.com
well done, safety audit team. you've done your credibility a whole heap of good.
your slogan,
economics before safety
46 killed, hundreds wounded in Iraq attacks - CNN.com
well done, safety audit team. you've done your credibility a whole heap of good.
your slogan,
economics before safety
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brassplate,send the locals?! why the locals are expendable!? i dont mind doing iraq as long as you r doing them as well...and i think everyone should do them,if not they should be fired!!!
air arabia,etihad,bahrain air are going to start flying there soon,they think there is an acceptable risk as long as the situation is continually reevaluated..rj and other assorted european charters are already flying into various airports in iraq...the question is why not gulfair? and why not u rustplate
air arabia,etihad,bahrain air are going to start flying there soon,they think there is an acceptable risk as long as the situation is continually reevaluated..rj and other assorted european charters are already flying into various airports in iraq...the question is why not gulfair? and why not u rustplate
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they think there is an acceptable risk as long as the situation is continually reevaluated
Here is an up to date assessment from a neutral European country:
xxx citizens are advised against all travel to Iraq because of the extremely dangerous security situation and very high threat of terrorist attacks. xxx citizens currently in Iraq are advised to leave.
The threat of kidnap of foreign nationals across Iraq remains high. Individuals have been kidnapped at their residence, work and in transit. Kidnappers do not discriminate between nationalities or religions. Those kidnapped include individuals who had security arrangements in place and some of those kidnapped have been killed, including two xxx citizens.
Terrorists and anti-government forces have carried out numerous attacks against places frequented by foreigners, such as hotels and restaurants outside the International Zone. Westerners and places frequented by westerners, including hotels and restaurants, have also been attacked inside the International Zone.
There have been attacks on international organisations, including the International Committee of the Red Cross, the UN and non–Government Organisations.
If you consider your presence in Iraq is essential, you should have adequate and continuous professional close security arrangements and ensure they are regularly reviewed.
The threat of kidnap of foreign nationals across Iraq remains high. Individuals have been kidnapped at their residence, work and in transit. Kidnappers do not discriminate between nationalities or religions. Those kidnapped include individuals who had security arrangements in place and some of those kidnapped have been killed, including two xxx citizens.
Terrorists and anti-government forces have carried out numerous attacks against places frequented by foreigners, such as hotels and restaurants outside the International Zone. Westerners and places frequented by westerners, including hotels and restaurants, have also been attacked inside the International Zone.
There have been attacks on international organisations, including the International Committee of the Red Cross, the UN and non–Government Organisations.
If you consider your presence in Iraq is essential, you should have adequate and continuous professional close security arrangements and ensure they are regularly reviewed.
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"Any take ups should be completely voluntary." by Mike.Park
Good idea Mike. So those who want to do Iraq flight, please go to the fleet office and have your names listed.
Good idea Mike. So those who want to do Iraq flight, please go to the fleet office and have your names listed.
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obsidian,
i did not mean it from the angle of your attack.
if anyone was going to be in danger for the airline and therefore the country, then it should be the owners of the airline. from the tone of your comment,
no one pays me enough to be in harms way. why purposefully add risk to an operation that does not need additional risk?
i like the voluntary option, but based on the volunteers judgment, not gf.
it seems to me that only the desperate carriers are going there.
since when did 'high risk, high rewards' figure in our crm and business models?
gf must be really, really desperate because our managers have run out of ways to keep this overstaffed, under-performing, rag tag of an airline to making money.
in other words, gf is PROSTITUTING ITSELF literally.
i did not mean it from the angle of your attack.
if anyone was going to be in danger for the airline and therefore the country, then it should be the owners of the airline. from the tone of your comment,
and i think everyone should do them,if not they should be fired!!!
i like the voluntary option, but based on the volunteers judgment, not gf.
it seems to me that only the desperate carriers are going there.
since when did 'high risk, high rewards' figure in our crm and business models?
gf must be really, really desperate because our managers have run out of ways to keep this overstaffed, under-performing, rag tag of an airline to making money.
in other words, gf is PROSTITUTING ITSELF literally.
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no offence taken brass- i agree this is a crew issue not just a pilot issue. as i said before making locals go is not any safer. It is so simple guys, we all need to make our voices heard. For those who actually think this is a safety issue and are concerned then we should write letters, call and have meeting with our Fleet Managers and Chief Pilots as professionals. Bitching about it on here is one thing but actually voicing legitemate concerns in a professional way is what needs to be done.
oh and OBS: are u actually saying there are no concerns? just curious.
oh and OBS: are u actually saying there are no concerns? just curious.
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I love the video clip on the Iraqi Airways website.
"We take pride in our unrivaled safety record and highly trained staff. Our majestic fleet of aircraft offer the luxury that both the casual and business customer will enjoy"
Sounds too good to be true!
"We take pride in our unrivaled safety record and highly trained staff. Our majestic fleet of aircraft offer the luxury that both the casual and business customer will enjoy"
Sounds too good to be true!