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A lot more too this than flydubai have told their crews.
From an International Security Assistance Force Joint Command News Release
KABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. 15, 2012 – International Security Assistance Force officials are providing additional details about the Sept. 14 attack on Camp Bastion in Afghanistan’s Helmand province in which two coalition service members were killed when insurgents attacked the base’s airfield.
Because it is still early in the investigation of this attack, information is subject to change as new details become available, officials said.
The attack commenced just after 10 p.m., officials said, when approximately 15 insurgents executed a well-coordinated attack against the airfield on Camp Bastion. The insurgents, organized into three teams, penetrated at one point of the base’s perimeter fence, officials said.
The insurgents appeared to be well-equipped, trained and rehearsed, officials said. Dressed in U.S. Army uniforms and armed with automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and suicide vests, the insurgents attacked coalition fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft parked on the flight line, aircraft hangars and other buildings, officials said.
Six coalition AV-8B Harrier jets were destroyed and two were significantly damaged, said officials, noting three coalition refueling stations were destroyed. Six soft-skin aircraft hangars were damaged to some degree.
Coalition forces engaged the insurgents, killing 14 and wounding one who was taken into custody, officials said.
In addition to the two coalition service members that were killed, nine coalition personnel -- eight military and one civilian contractor -- were wounded in the attack, officials said. None of their injuries are considered life-threatening.
KABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. 15, 2012 – International Security Assistance Force officials are providing additional details about the Sept. 14 attack on Camp Bastion in Afghanistan’s Helmand province in which two coalition service members were killed when insurgents attacked the base’s airfield.
Because it is still early in the investigation of this attack, information is subject to change as new details become available, officials said.
The attack commenced just after 10 p.m., officials said, when approximately 15 insurgents executed a well-coordinated attack against the airfield on Camp Bastion. The insurgents, organized into three teams, penetrated at one point of the base’s perimeter fence, officials said.
The insurgents appeared to be well-equipped, trained and rehearsed, officials said. Dressed in U.S. Army uniforms and armed with automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and suicide vests, the insurgents attacked coalition fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft parked on the flight line, aircraft hangars and other buildings, officials said.
Six coalition AV-8B Harrier jets were destroyed and two were significantly damaged, said officials, noting three coalition refueling stations were destroyed. Six soft-skin aircraft hangars were damaged to some degree.
Coalition forces engaged the insurgents, killing 14 and wounding one who was taken into custody, officials said.
In addition to the two coalition service members that were killed, nine coalition personnel -- eight military and one civilian contractor -- were wounded in the attack, officials said. None of their injuries are considered life-threatening.
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Don't forget to Duck & Dive!
ex-XL, they cancelled the following Camp Bastion flight and the Safety & Security Dept issued a memo about that attack. It is thin on facts but promises to tell us more once all of the facts are known, or that they have had a chance to dress it up as "just them pesky darn Taliban doing it to annoy us gee shucks".
We are constantly told the 'situation' is being 'closely monitored', using information provided by US Air Farce 'Intelligence', as well as Security risk companies, and personnel stationed on the ground, plus other undisclosed 'reliable sources' - which is probably no more than the bloke who cleans the toilets at the airport - but not one of them has been able to predict or prevent an attack. This speaks volumes about their 'intelligence' and its total lack of reliability.
The Spaceman also has several memos to his name, assuring crews about how the perimeter security at these airfields far exceeds ICAO standards, and that the distance from any city, and the wide open space around these airports, and the roaming patrols of hundreds of soldiers, and the 24 hour rocket attack detection radar, and the mine fields, all provide additional perimeter security, and that being attacked, or injured, or maimed, or killed, is highly unlikely!
Unfortunately the Taliban do not read his works of fiction and so they blew a hole through the perimeter at Camp Bastion, then stormed onto the airfield with guns & rockets blazing, and were quite prepared to die themselves!
The Taliban Attack On Camp Bastion - Business Insider
ISAF provides additional details on Camp Bastion attack
We are constantly told the 'situation' is being 'closely monitored', using information provided by US Air Farce 'Intelligence', as well as Security risk companies, and personnel stationed on the ground, plus other undisclosed 'reliable sources' - which is probably no more than the bloke who cleans the toilets at the airport - but not one of them has been able to predict or prevent an attack. This speaks volumes about their 'intelligence' and its total lack of reliability.
The Spaceman also has several memos to his name, assuring crews about how the perimeter security at these airfields far exceeds ICAO standards, and that the distance from any city, and the wide open space around these airports, and the roaming patrols of hundreds of soldiers, and the 24 hour rocket attack detection radar, and the mine fields, all provide additional perimeter security, and that being attacked, or injured, or maimed, or killed, is highly unlikely!
Unfortunately the Taliban do not read his works of fiction and so they blew a hole through the perimeter at Camp Bastion, then stormed onto the airfield with guns & rockets blazing, and were quite prepared to die themselves!
The Taliban Attack On Camp Bastion - Business Insider
ISAF provides additional details on Camp Bastion attack
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About EFIS
Hi guys,
One of the requirements as NTR FO is :
"At least 1,000 hours on modern (EFIS), multi-crew, multi-engine aircraft over 10 tonnes operating weight (preference will be given to those with PIC time)".
I have 5700h flown on MD82 as FO. Do I suit that since the MD82 might not be considered as equipped with EFIS (modern generation EFIS is what I mean)?
Any help about that would be appreciated. Anyone with such a doubt?
Thanks in advance.
Happy Landings
One of the requirements as NTR FO is :
"At least 1,000 hours on modern (EFIS), multi-crew, multi-engine aircraft over 10 tonnes operating weight (preference will be given to those with PIC time)".
I have 5700h flown on MD82 as FO. Do I suit that since the MD82 might not be considered as equipped with EFIS (modern generation EFIS is what I mean)?
Any help about that would be appreciated. Anyone with such a doubt?
Thanks in advance.
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MerAir80 - I assume you are aware that all flydubai assessments are conducted in the UK by a company called CTC Aviation. Have you tried calling them?
Or why don't you simply apply (online) and then wait and see if you get invited for an assessment?
Or why don't you simply apply (online) and then wait and see if you get invited for an assessment?
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Dummie or whatever
"US Air Farce 'Intelligence' "
Getting a bit personal are we Spit the Dummie...aka A$$wipe. What kind of street-cred do you have to make such a stupid statement? Sounds like too much time in front of the tube watching "Pussy Galore". Mate if you are bent out of shape flying to hot areas, just go to the office and tell them you have a problem with your genitals. I'm sure the guys will understand. We have ladies that will do it.
Have a nice day, Grizz
Getting a bit personal are we Spit the Dummie...aka A$$wipe. What kind of street-cred do you have to make such a stupid statement? Sounds like too much time in front of the tube watching "Pussy Galore". Mate if you are bent out of shape flying to hot areas, just go to the office and tell them you have a problem with your genitals. I'm sure the guys will understand. We have ladies that will do it.
Have a nice day, Grizz
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Military Intelligence?… more like PMSL !!
17th Sep 2012 21:08
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Dummie or whatever / "US Air Farce 'Intelligence' "
Getting a bit personal are we Spit the Dummie...aka A$$wipe. What kind of street-cred do you have to make such a stupid statement? Sounds like too much time in front of the tube watching "Pussy Galore". Mate if you are bent out of shape flying to hot areas, just go to the office and tell them you have a problem with your genitals. I'm sure the guys will understand. We have ladies that will do it.
Have a nice day, Grizz
Posted by: ualgrizz
Dummie or whatever / "US Air Farce 'Intelligence' "
Getting a bit personal are we Spit the Dummie...aka A$$wipe. What kind of street-cred do you have to make such a stupid statement? Sounds like too much time in front of the tube watching "Pussy Galore". Mate if you are bent out of shape flying to hot areas, just go to the office and tell them you have a problem with your genitals. I'm sure the guys will understand. We have ladies that will do it.
Have a nice day, Grizz
By the way - and this will probably be something of a 'face-palm' moment for you (JohnA) - it is not very 'intelligent' to use the same handle, or your real name, or your real email address(es), on various other Bulletin Boards, as this almost certainly proves the quote by Groucho Marx that "Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms", and we can now say that this also seems to be true even for ex-military - doh!
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Some B737-800 operators in Shenzen, China are providing quite high and acceptable accident and medical insurance in spite of "LOW RISK" operation enviroment:
Donghai Airlines, China
Considering some combat zones flydubai is flying, the management should revise the insurance and medical policy upwards with no additional cost for the drivers and offer commuting opportunity.
Donghai Airlines, China
Insurance: Donghai will provide accident insurance for pilot with 1.5 million USD, , and medical insurance with 0.5 million USD
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CTC & PILAPT assessment gouge (flydubai). Cheers!
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I could hardly invent a better example to prove my previously made points: Syrian Gunship Helicopter in Mid-Air Collision With Passenger Airliner | Damascus News
FZckntkawrap - I see that the Moderator deleted your post and also those of ualgrizz, though both your objections and commentary have been noted.
Now here's some food for thought...
You certainly cannot ignore the FACT that the Taliban have been brazen enough to 'successfully' attack one of the most heavily defended airbases in Afghanistan.
In spite of all of the Coalition's resources, and 'intelligence' - plus reassurances from certain dodgy 'veterans' inside various airlines, that attacks like this were highly unlikely even at these war zone airports
- it seems that nobody saw this attack coming - doh! - and that surely speaks volumes, doesn't it?!
And today, in Damascus (which is another flydubai war-zone destination), a military helicopter, conducting live-fire military operations only moments previously, was involved in a mid-air collision with a civilian passenger airliner.
This seems very much at odds with the notice we were issued, only a couple of weeks ago, in which we were basically told that "flying into Damascus is not the slightest bit dangerous" and that they are "closely monitoring the situation".
But, yet again, they failed to predict that anything could go wrong (in a war zone situation, with live fire occurring within very close proximity - doh?!!!!).
So putting all this together, we can only deduce that there is obviously something very wrong with their crystal ball and / or with their 'intelligence', is there not?!
As a licensed Commander, of a civilian airliner, you should think very carefully about your culpability, accountability, and liability (legal & otherwise) and, with all due respect to certain veterans, this is not some gung-ho game being played out between civilian aircraft and fighter jets or military helicopters manned by military jocks !
I would ask just how much more evidence is required to convince people that this war zone type flying is not safe, and that it should never have been allowed in the first place. Imho, some serious questions need to be asked about the integrity & abilities of those who are authorising this fiasco.
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FZckntkawrap - I see that the Moderator deleted your post and also those of ualgrizz, though both your objections and commentary have been noted.
Now here's some food for thought...
You certainly cannot ignore the FACT that the Taliban have been brazen enough to 'successfully' attack one of the most heavily defended airbases in Afghanistan.
In spite of all of the Coalition's resources, and 'intelligence' - plus reassurances from certain dodgy 'veterans' inside various airlines, that attacks like this were highly unlikely even at these war zone airports
- it seems that nobody saw this attack coming - doh! - and that surely speaks volumes, doesn't it?!And today, in Damascus (which is another flydubai war-zone destination), a military helicopter, conducting live-fire military operations only moments previously, was involved in a mid-air collision with a civilian passenger airliner.
This seems very much at odds with the notice we were issued, only a couple of weeks ago, in which we were basically told that "flying into Damascus is not the slightest bit dangerous" and that they are "closely monitoring the situation".
But, yet again, they failed to predict that anything could go wrong (in a war zone situation, with live fire occurring within very close proximity - doh?!!!!).
So putting all this together, we can only deduce that there is obviously something very wrong with their crystal ball and / or with their 'intelligence', is there not?!
As a licensed Commander, of a civilian airliner, you should think very carefully about your culpability, accountability, and liability (legal & otherwise) and, with all due respect to certain veterans, this is not some gung-ho game being played out between civilian aircraft and fighter jets or military helicopters manned by military jocks !
I would ask just how much more evidence is required to convince people that this war zone type flying is not safe, and that it should never have been allowed in the first place. Imho, some serious questions need to be asked about the integrity & abilities of those who are authorising this fiasco.
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This has been predicted by the pilots here at FZ for some time. We have all known that this sort of thing could indeed occur, and now it has.... what a shock!
All the 'monitoring' in world can't prevent this from happening again.... common sense, however, could.
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Having read some of your other posts, which lets be honest, are quite negative about FZ, you have the nerve to say resign!
Is it fair to ask if you did?
Telling someone to resign is a rather cheap shot, especially if their concerns are regarding flight safety, which is in stark contrast to a number of your complaints regarding T & C's......
Is it fair to ask if you did?
Telling someone to resign is a rather cheap shot, especially if their concerns are regarding flight safety, which is in stark contrast to a number of your complaints regarding T & C's......
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Fair enough. I'm definitely negative about Flydubai, but when some meathead names someone on a forum and makes a stupid blanket statement...then I think he deserves the comment!
Flydubai is crazy to send airplanes into some of the places they are going!
Their scheduling department is vindictive and completely incompetent!
I am already finished!
Good luck!
Flydubai is crazy to send airplanes into some of the places they are going!
Their scheduling department is vindictive and completely incompetent!
I am already finished!
Good luck!