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In additionally, as a one off gesture, we will be processing this month’s payroll before the Eid holiday to ensure you receive your salary in time to enjoy the festivities.
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flydubai to start Bagram flights on 1st September
BritishGuy. flydubai's highly accredited and profession Safety & Security Department have assessed that particular rocket attack as of no consequence, and they are vigilantly monitoring the situation using information supplied from reliable sources. With such cast iron assurances what could possibly go wrong ?!
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Well, I make that three rocket attacks at three of four Afghanistan destinations, all of which have occurred in the last few months.
For some reason FZ think that this is an acceptable risk. Notice that the security brief mentions that the media has reported the recent rocket attack.... But our own safety dept. was unable to do so..... even with access to 'several reliable sources' as they claim.
Note that the same reliable sources of intel were unable to confirm any of the last two rocket attacks......
I'm sorry, but how can a rocket attack not be a threat to security?
For some reason FZ think that this is an acceptable risk. Notice that the security brief mentions that the media has reported the recent rocket attack.... But our own safety dept. was unable to do so..... even with access to 'several reliable sources' as they claim.
Note that the same reliable sources of intel were unable to confirm any of the last two rocket attacks......
I'm sorry, but how can a rocket attack not be a threat to security?
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what-to-do. FZs Black-Ops Dept, and his 'reliable sources', have a 100% success record in failing to forewarn or prevent any rocket attacks. By burying or ignoring those same attacks, it certainly helps the profitability of the airline as well as helping to keep certain persons employed... and that retirement ranch needs to be paid for somehow!
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Well, I guess we have a choice, as the 'Spaceman' put it rather eloquently....... Fly to Afghanistan or leave the company.
The latest security briefs, whilst a step in the right direction, are still rather worrying. I have no confidence in the so called 'reliable sources' used by the security department, and even less confidence in the man at the helm either.
The latest security briefs, whilst a step in the right direction, are still rather worrying. I have no confidence in the so called 'reliable sources' used by the security department, and even less confidence in the man at the helm either.
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Believe!?
Yes! Another reasuring report from our safety department!
You will no doubt be aware that the media has recently reported a rocket attack at Bagram Airbase during the night on a recent visit by the chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff. We have assessed this incident and do not believe that this affects the security review.
We believe!
Really makes you wonder what actually would affect any security review in this company......
You will no doubt be aware that the media has recently reported a rocket attack at Bagram Airbase during the night on a recent visit by the chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff. We have assessed this incident and do not believe that this affects the security review.
We believe!
Really makes you wonder what actually would affect any security review in this company......
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Well yes, we have the choice, fly to Afganistan or leave the company but when joining many of us specificly queried about war zone operations and the company said that it would NEVER happen. Now we are becoming a military charter company.
Looking back I would never have signed a 3 year bond if I knew what I know now.
Looking back I would never have signed a 3 year bond if I knew what I know now.
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DucknDive I would agree with you. As more aircraft are coming then we would have a problem as to where these aircraft would fly. No India, no more GCC destinations, perhaps 1-2 more Russian if we get traffic rights, and Europe? Skopje was the latest so next could it be Tirana? (Albania). There are more bases we could fly in Afghanistan (Mazar el Sharif) so apparently that is what is happening 
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How can a start up (ish) airline have unexpected expansion? Surely if the aircraft orders are already in place, it shouldn't really be unexpected.
Therefore the recent announcement for DECs at FZ is more probably due to a pilot shortage, rather than unexpected expansion!
Still, if it makes you happy..... WOW, we didn't see that coming.
Therefore the recent announcement for DECs at FZ is more probably due to a pilot shortage, rather than unexpected expansion!
Still, if it makes you happy..... WOW, we didn't see that coming.
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I am type-rated 737 CP with a lot of hours. If I would have the choice btw QR or FZ, what would be advisable? I would be looking for ish 7 years staying in Dubai or Qatar. Anyone a professional and honest opinion???
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I suggest you read all the threads concerning FZ and Qatar and make your mind up. There's enough on here to see what the general mood is at both airlines.
Personally, I have friends in Qatar and I work in FZ..... given the choice, I wouldn't touch either. However, like most things in life, it's a personal choice...
Personally, I have friends in Qatar and I work in FZ..... given the choice, I wouldn't touch either. However, like most things in life, it's a personal choice...
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I'm with you Tolerant Dubai, given a choice between FZ and QR I think I would pick EY.
Once upon a time I was giving a qualified positive about FZ (look back in the this thread), but over the course the last 6mo that has changed and can do so no longer. Do not, I say again, do not join FZ unless you are unable to secure a toilet cleaners job back home.
With the possible exception of the Flight Ops managers that do at least seem to care and want to make the company better, but are blocked and pretty well powerless to implement any sort of meaningful change. Across the board FZ as a company is failing it's flightcrews on a daily basis.
HR seems to go out of its way to undermine demotivate staff by avoiding their responsibilities is there is even half a chance to do so.
Safety and Security are neither safe nor secure. FZ has Bastion, Kandarhar, Kabul, Bagram, Damascus and Aleppo all on its books at the moment. Aircraft have been dispatched into live fire war zones, been on the ground during rocket attacks. Had to depart while areas within 3 miles of the end of one of the runways are being shelled. The only time flights have been cancelled is when airport staff have been unable to pass through the front lines to be able to do the ground handling. On each occasion the threat is assessed as tolerable, and not directly affecting FZ operations. Places that have been considered as future destinations Mosul, Mazar i Sharif, Mogadishu. All the high spots.
You don't get a choice you go there or you resign.
Commercial run the place, they will select destinations and the flight times with complete impunity. Flight too long for that deep night duty period? Don't worry we will just reduce the block times and send you anyway, we know you'll want to get home and use your discretion.
Which brings us nicely to rostering...oh I forgot there isn't any. 5/2 for three and a half months not so uncommon. There are fortunate souls out there that do better, but its pot luck. 18-30 rest periods not unusual. mornings to nights and back to mornings, body clock everywhere, landing at 5:30am on your third deep night on your 6th duty day. All perfectly legal of course.
"Ah!" Say those prospective FO's but what about the quick command. The current FO's were told 12 months, for some it has been 26 already, and still counting. New joiners are told 2yrs, it will be more than that. Unless there is a flood of exiting Capts. which is an might be a possibility as the initial hire guy reach 3yrs. So as long as you get through the process, by no means guaranteed, it is as advanced rocketship 737 you'll be flying, so the NASA Self-Study Command Course and testing program is a vital sifting tool to thin the ranks a bit. Then for added First Officer motivation, and despite it being the declared aim for over 2yrs for it not to happen, after a 2month stoppage DEC recruitment begins again.
I hate to be the harbinger of doom, but if you come you need to come with your eyes wide open, and with a Plan B. Don't get yourself trapped here, if you can help it.
Keep safe when your out there team, your on your own.
F-C
Once upon a time I was giving a qualified positive about FZ (look back in the this thread), but over the course the last 6mo that has changed and can do so no longer. Do not, I say again, do not join FZ unless you are unable to secure a toilet cleaners job back home.
With the possible exception of the Flight Ops managers that do at least seem to care and want to make the company better, but are blocked and pretty well powerless to implement any sort of meaningful change. Across the board FZ as a company is failing it's flightcrews on a daily basis.
HR seems to go out of its way to undermine demotivate staff by avoiding their responsibilities is there is even half a chance to do so.
Safety and Security are neither safe nor secure. FZ has Bastion, Kandarhar, Kabul, Bagram, Damascus and Aleppo all on its books at the moment. Aircraft have been dispatched into live fire war zones, been on the ground during rocket attacks. Had to depart while areas within 3 miles of the end of one of the runways are being shelled. The only time flights have been cancelled is when airport staff have been unable to pass through the front lines to be able to do the ground handling. On each occasion the threat is assessed as tolerable, and not directly affecting FZ operations. Places that have been considered as future destinations Mosul, Mazar i Sharif, Mogadishu. All the high spots.
You don't get a choice you go there or you resign.
Commercial run the place, they will select destinations and the flight times with complete impunity. Flight too long for that deep night duty period? Don't worry we will just reduce the block times and send you anyway, we know you'll want to get home and use your discretion.
Which brings us nicely to rostering...oh I forgot there isn't any. 5/2 for three and a half months not so uncommon. There are fortunate souls out there that do better, but its pot luck. 18-30 rest periods not unusual. mornings to nights and back to mornings, body clock everywhere, landing at 5:30am on your third deep night on your 6th duty day. All perfectly legal of course.
"Ah!" Say those prospective FO's but what about the quick command. The current FO's were told 12 months, for some it has been 26 already, and still counting. New joiners are told 2yrs, it will be more than that. Unless there is a flood of exiting Capts. which is an might be a possibility as the initial hire guy reach 3yrs. So as long as you get through the process, by no means guaranteed, it is as advanced rocketship 737 you'll be flying, so the NASA Self-Study Command Course and testing program is a vital sifting tool to thin the ranks a bit. Then for added First Officer motivation, and despite it being the declared aim for over 2yrs for it not to happen, after a 2month stoppage DEC recruitment begins again.
I hate to be the harbinger of doom, but if you come you need to come with your eyes wide open, and with a Plan B. Don't get yourself trapped here, if you can help it.
Keep safe when your out there team, your on your own.
F-C
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Hats off ...
... To Flat cap !
Guys, in 3 yrs, this is the most accurate summation of fz I have read.
If you're thinking of coming here and have just read the above, do yourself a favour, read it again and consider your options carefully.
Guys, in 3 yrs, this is the most accurate summation of fz I have read.
If you're thinking of coming here and have just read the above, do yourself a favour, read it again and consider your options carefully.