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Old 17th Feb 2022, 15:04
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Originally Posted by High Energy
Again, your negative attitude. Can you not accept that it might not have suited you but suits others really nicely? I’ve got no fancy whatsoever of even looking at EK.

Ok. Some facts. We currently have around 100 destinations of which 29 are layover destinations. And only one day deadhead to Sharm El Sheikh by the way. Unless that night Alexandria is still there that would make it two deadheads. One day, one night. But I’ve not done that one in years nor do I know if it still there or not.

All crew hotels are 4 stars except Budapest and Krabi. Never been to both of them so I can’t judge them. Three of them are actually 5 stars. Furthermore stars ar in my eyes subjective. Just like Skytrax awards. P.s. the CGP hotel has been changed many, many years ago. The current one is one of the most fancy ones we have actually. So strange to have such a hotel in such a poor country. We briefly changed to a different provider in DAR a while back but after many crew complaints we were back in our old one very quickly. It was actually changed to reduce commute times due to the horrible DAR traffic. So we do get listened to.

Our health insurance provider usually changes every year. This year we have Damam. And so far so good. I’ve (me+family) had to use it a few times unfortunately but got much better service and quicker approval times than say AXA. The policy is the same as our previous supplier AXA. I’m not up-to-speed with maternity cover details tbh.

Why is your friend ‘unfortunate’? If you feel pity on him that says something about you. If he doesn’t like it then there are other options around the world. The pilot job markets goes in cycles as you know. Wait for the next wave and surf out into the sunset…

The command time will come down again. We’re taking in 17.5% of the amount of MAX’s Southwest receives in 2022. That’s an airline with a fleet of 730+ 737’s. And NG leases have been extended as I already mentioned. Seeing we’re in a (p)endemic too I would say there is cause for optimism.

I know you’d laugh at me for saying this but I’m very happy at FDB.

A guy I know that went from FZ to EK many moons ago developed ‘obstructive sleep apnea’. According to himself due to sleep deprivation. He wishes he’d stayed at FZ despite making more money now. Swings and roundabouts.

The rosters are really not bad tbh. No bidding or swapping is a big issue. That’s true. Swapping comes back in March but at a reduced scale. Other than that a few too many layovers for my liking but that’s just me. All night DHD’s are I think gone (see comment above) and are now layovers. The longest night turn we have is Colombo. So no winter ops. The longest night turn with winter ops is only Bishkek followed by MCX in Southern Russia or Tashkent. The other winter ops ones all changed to layovers a long time ago. Then there are the night India turns. The same ones as EK, Air Arabia or Etihad. Or Oman, Gulf Air, Jazeera, Salaam Air, Kuwait etc etc. Some airlines do layovers there. Personally I’m glad we don’t. Not because of the destinations but just because I don’t want nor like layovers.

As long as you come to the Middle East knowing the facts you know what you can reasonably expect. Not everyone is suited to FZ nor EK. Nor perceived ‘dream jobs’ like BA or DL. The job itself is 50%. The other 50% is the region/country/politics/safety and you family wishes and desires for now and the future.
Last paragraph sums up aviation perfectly in ideal situations. Current situation (aviation wise) is rubbish everywhere outside of USA. Waiting for EK might take ages!!! Then they could open and say you must have flown 30t+ within last 12 months or 24 months etc etc. In this situation I would say take the best you can. I know many that are doing just that. Not just at FZ but all over people saying short term to keep hand in etc etc.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 08:12
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Originally Posted by High Energy
Again, your negative attitude. Can you not accept that it might not have suited you but suits others really nicely? I’ve got no fancy whatsoever of even looking at EK.

Ok. Some facts. We currently have around 100 destinations of which 29 are layover destinations. And only one day deadhead to Sharm El Sheikh by the way. Unless that night Alexandria is still there that would make it two deadheads. One day, one night. But I’ve not done that one in years nor do I know if it still there or not.

All crew hotels are 4 stars except Budapest and Krabi. Never been to both of them so I can’t judge them. Three of them are actually 5 stars. Furthermore stars ar in my eyes subjective. Just like Skytrax awards. P.s. the CGP hotel has been changed many, many years ago. The current one is one of the most fancy ones we have actually. So strange to have such a hotel in such a poor country. We briefly changed to a different provider in DAR a while back but after many crew complaints we were back in our old one very quickly. It was actually changed to reduce commute times due to the horrible DAR traffic. So we do get listened to.

Our health insurance provider usually changes every year. This year we have Damam. And so far so good. I’ve (me+family) had to use it a few times unfortunately but got much better service and quicker approval times than say AXA. The policy is the same as our previous supplier AXA. I’m not up-to-speed with maternity cover details tbh.

Why is your friend ‘unfortunate’? If you feel pity on him that says something about you. If he doesn’t like it then there are other options around the world. The pilot job markets goes in cycles as you know. Wait for the next wave and surf out into the sunset…

The command time will come down again. We’re taking in 17.5% of the amount of MAX’s Southwest receives in 2022. That’s an airline with a fleet of 730+ 737’s. And NG leases have been extended as I already mentioned. Seeing we’re in a (p)endemic too I would say there is cause for optimism.

I know you’d laugh at me for saying this but I’m very happy at FDB.

A guy I know that went from FZ to EK many moons ago developed ‘obstructive sleep apnea’. According to himself due to sleep deprivation. He wishes he’d stayed at FZ despite making more money now. Swings and roundabouts.

The rosters are really not bad tbh. No bidding or swapping is a big issue. That’s true. Swapping comes back in March but at a reduced scale. Other than that a few too many layovers for my liking but that’s just me. All night DHD’s are I think gone (see comment above) and are now layovers. The longest night turn we have is Colombo. So no winter ops. The longest night turn with winter ops is only Bishkek followed by MCX in Southern Russia or Tashkent. The other winter ops ones all changed to layovers a long time ago. Then there are the night India turns. The same ones as EK, Air Arabia or Etihad. Or Oman, Gulf Air, Jazeera, Salaam Air, Kuwait etc etc. Some airlines do layovers there. Personally I’m glad we don’t. Not because of the destinations but just because I don’t want nor like layovers.

As long as you come to the Middle East knowing the facts you know what you can reasonably expect. Not everyone is suited to FZ nor EK. Nor perceived ‘dream jobs’ like BA or DL. The job itself is 50%. The other 50% is the region/country/politics/safety and you family wishes and desires for now and the future.
I just want to thank you for your post! Objective, accurate and straight to the point.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 09:03
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry Handpump
4-5 year upgrade begs the question as to why you would choose FZ over EK? The draw to the former was always the rapid command. Now it appears similar to EK.
Exactly. You would have 4-5 years contributing to your provident fund too which is huge. Confirmed staff travel and tickets for the wife and kids. Flydubai is just low/ marginal operational Emirates these days. Minus the ULH. Overnights will grow and grow in FZ with deliveries of the max.
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All crew hotels are 4 stars except Budapest and Krabi. Never been to both of them so I can’t judge them.
——-They were all 4 star your last post.


Why is your friend ‘unfortunate’? If you feel pity on him that says something about you. If he doesn’t like it then there are other options around the world—-—Do not worry he is leaving like so many more FOs in FZ to in the coming months.

The command time will come down again. We’re taking in 17.5% of the amount of MAX’s Southwest receives in 2022.——-I have no idea what southwest has to do with FZ or command time. There will never be an early command in FZ. As you said training is at max capacity. They will look for the quick fix of DEC options like they are right now.

A guy I know that went from FZ to EK many moons ago developed ‘obstructive sleep apnea’. According to himself due to sleep deprivation.——-How long was he working for FZ before hand ? It sounds like it could be cumulative after long periods?

The rosters are really not bad tbh. No bidding or swapping is a big issue. ——-That’s true.
Please ask any current flydubai pilot what the rosters are currently like in flydubai.I have seen some. This could not be further from the truth. All anyone has to do is ask and you will find the truth.

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Old 18th Feb 2022, 14:57
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Originally Posted by Three Angels Message
I just got a request for an online interview as well. I was expecting to go for sim assessment and face to face interview in march but it has been changed to online interview and if I pass it then I will go for a sim check only in May. I guess things are changing everyday and for the NTR as I am will be the last group to be considered for a place. But atleast there is positive correspondence from them. But as we are not clearly out of the woods yet the road ahead is unpredictable. Anything can change anytime.
Hi bro,
Do you known about online interview's topic? I invited to interview next month. If you know, please suggest me. Thank you and Good luck.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 22:03
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Visa Invitation

Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me how many days before an simulator assessment do HR send an invitation email for Visa? Been waiting for it so that i can apply for Visa. Thanks
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 10:50
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
People I know familiar with the matter suggest otherwise, particularly for the likes of; Albania, Nepal, Bucharest, (and at the time) Catania.

They also suggest Uganda, Zanzibar, and as of recently Sri Lanka are equally as poor - although probably classified otherwise by your company.

I have to say I am quite surprised to read such discussion.
We are getting, hopefully, out of two disastrous years for aviation and not only.
Many colleagues have lost their jobs and here you discuss about hotel stars…….
I consider my self lucky to have a decent flying job, I applied as DEC NTR and I really hope
to have the chance to get the job.
If some of you is worried about hotel stars or nights lost or in how many years to get the upgrade probably you don’t need a job.
I spent 15 years in ek, I then decided to change, now, after having experienced different realities I came to the conclusion that for me and my family, FZ is the best option.
So, considering that those reading this forum are interested in joining let’s be focused on what really matters.
Thanks
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 14:57
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Originally Posted by flareflyer
I have to say I am quite surprised to read such discussion.
We are getting, hopefully, out of two disastrous years for aviation and not only.
Many colleagues have lost their jobs and here you discuss about hotel stars…….
I consider my self lucky to have a decent flying job, I applied as DEC NTR and I really hope
to have the chance to get the job.
If some of you is worried about hotel stars or nights lost or in how many years to get the upgrade probably you don’t need a job.
I spent 15 years in ek, I then decided to change, now, after having experienced different realities I came to the conclusion that for me and my family, FZ is the best option.
So, considering that those reading this forum are interested in joining let’s be focused on what really matters.
Thanks
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I do sympathise with you and can see your point of view. It has been a horrible 2 years for aviation but please remember those who have been working have had their terms and conditions eroded considerably too. Flydubai have taken advantage of this. I wish you well on your flydubai quest if that is what you fancy. The hotel star rating is much more than the rating. As you were in EK you will find that they have standard for choosing a hotel for quality of life.. 24/7 room service is a must for flight crew that are sleeping on minimum rest during the day and want to eat at night. With considerable time spent away from home it can be a big factor for many. If you spend a 7-10 days a month in an Ibis style hotel. As you have probably connections in Dubai I would strongly consider getting in touch with colleges about flydubai. I comment on her as a warning and to highlight the trappings of flydubai.I believe there are 2-3 very pro company posters and I find that very misleading. Some others accuse me of being pessimistic, these people have never worked at FlyDubai. Most current flydubai employees do not comment on here.
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 16:35
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Originally Posted by Desertboki
I do sympathise with you and can see your point of view. It has been a horrible 2 years for aviation but please remember those who have been working have had their terms and conditions eroded considerably too. Flydubai have taken advantage of this. I wish you well on your flydubai quest if that is what you fancy. The hotel star rating is much more than the rating. As you were in EK you will find that they have standard for choosing a hotel for quality of life.. 24/7 room service is a must for flight crew that are sleeping on minimum rest during the day and want to eat at night. With considerable time spent away from home it can be a big factor for many. If you spend a 7-10 days a month in an Ibis style hotel. As you have probably connections in Dubai I would strongly consider getting in touch with colleges about flydubai. I comment on her as a warning and to highlight the trappings of flydubai.I believe there are 2-3 very pro company posters and I find that very misleading. Some others accuse me of being pessimistic, these people have never worked at FlyDubai. Most current flydubai employees do not comment on here.

I have plenty of friends that are and have been working for FZ for many years. Honestly none of them are as disappointed as you are and do not see the company the way you do.
I respect your view but honestly my friends, and they are many, are very happy to be working for FZ. In fact they also push me to join.
we all are quite experienced and mature enough to make our own decisions whatever it is.
If you still are with FZ I would suggest you to look elsewhere. The market is picking up and more options are now available.
I honestly miss Dubai but I don’t miss ek at all.
in fact, willing to move back to Dubai I would rather choose FZ a thousand times 😃😃😃
Anyway, I wish all of us to get what we want regardless the opinions 😃
finally we see the light at the end of the tunnel 😃😃😃 Inshallah 😃
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Originally Posted by Desertboki
I do sympathise with you and can see your point of view. It has been a horrible 2 years for aviation but please remember those who have been working have had their terms and conditions eroded considerably too. Flydubai have taken advantage of this. I wish you well on your flydubai quest if that is what you fancy. The hotel star rating is much more than the rating. As you were in EK you will find that they have standard for choosing a hotel for quality of life.. 24/7 room service is a must for flight crew that are sleeping on minimum rest during the day and want to eat at night. With considerable time spent away from home it can be a big factor for many. If you spend a 7-10 days a month in an Ibis style hotel. As you have probably connections in Dubai I would strongly consider getting in touch with colleges about flydubai. I comment on her as a warning and to highlight the trappings of flydubai.I believe there are 2-3 very pro company posters and I find that very misleading. Some others accuse me of being pessimistic, these people have never worked at FlyDubai. Most current flydubai employees do not comment on here.
This guy is a broken record 😂😆
He's self appointed savior of pilot community, and his pessimism means no end. Ignore him fella's.

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IAm expecting sim and hr interview in april, does the rules change now. so hrinterview is online?
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I just igot a request for an online interview as well. I was expecting to go for sim assessment and face to face interview in march but it has been changed to online interview and if I pass it then I will go for a sim check only in May. I guess things are changing everyday and for the NTR as I am will be the last group to be considered for a place. But atleast there is positive correspondence from them. But as we are not clearly out of the woods yet the road ahead is unpredictable. Anything can change anytime.
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 19:12
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Any feedback for the hr interview
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 19:14
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Originally Posted by flareflyer
I have plenty of friends that are and have been working for FZ for many years. Honestly none of them are as disappointed as you are and do not see the company the way you do.
I respect your view but honestly my friends, and they are many, are very happy to be working for FZ. In fact they also push me to join.
we all are quite experienced and mature enough to make our own decisions whatever it is.
If you still are with FZ I would suggest you to look elsewhere. The market is picking up and more options are now available.
I honestly miss Dubai but I don’t miss ek at all.
in fact, willing to move back to Dubai I would rather choose FZ a thousand times 😃😃😃
Anyway, I wish all of us to get what we want regardless the opinions 😃
finally we see the light at the end of the tunnel 😃😃😃 Inshallah 😃
I am delighted you got what you wanted in flydubai. I wish you well. Please keep us in mine and notify us of how the experience is going for future recruits.
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Originally Posted by Desertboki
I am delighted you got what you wanted in flydubai. I wish you well. Please keep us in mine and notify us of how the experience is going for future recruits.

I really hope!!!! I didn’t go through the sim yet so I don’t know if I will succeed. If I will I will let you know and I will keep you posted about my feelings 😃
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Originally Posted by flareflyer
Today three ex ek 380 FOs had the interview. Yesterday the sim.
as soon as I get more info I will post it.
Did they get the offer?
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ATPL REQUIRED?

Hello good people ,greetings

i have applied for TR FO i currently hold right around 2300 HRS on type and only have CPL and not ATPL, i have gone through the online assessment and interview. My question is will FZ require me to obtain my ATPL prior joining? Thanks before
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How long do we have to wait for a reply/offer letter after completing the process?
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Why am I not surprised that Fly Dubai are still flying to Kiev Ukraine (23/2 1800z)
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Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me how many days before an simulator assessment do HR send an invitation email for Visa? Been waiting for it so that i can apply for Visa. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Leasky
Any feedback for the hr interview
Yes atleast for me it has changed I have been invited to an online interview early next month.
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