Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged

Wikiposts
Search
Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 24th Jun 2022, 07:04
  #4641 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by F2L
Maybe it has to do with runway closure, I have been doing lots of swaps and opening days off since I joined, lots of friends with 7 days off in a row in June and July, they halt swaps during covid times, now it’s fully back, but you have to know how to use the aims, otherwise you don’t take any advantages when the opportunity knocks on your door.… and if read the post careful there is nothing about excitement, total salary has increase average 3%, 10% increase on fly pay and 500 on transportation. That’s it. Better than nothing.😃
What do you mean by open days off? If you and your friends are all getting 7 days off in a row a month how many days off in total do you get? The contract was 8 day of a month. Average increase of 3% salary increase ? Is it less and more depending on grade ? Basic 25225 captain SFO 17000 what are they now ?
Desertboki is offline  
Old 24th Jun 2022, 10:17
  #4642 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: London
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by F2L
11-12k USD FO
15-16k USD CA

flying 60-75hours

all allowances included

you can expect 2-3 layovers a month, some are easy to swap to turnarounds and vice versa. Mainly 24h Layovers.

pisa, Catania, Naples, Salzburg, krakow, Warsaw, Belgrade, Bucareste, tirana, lubjiana, Sarajevo, Moscow, Nur sultan, male (maldives), entebbe, dar es salam, Zanzibar, Chittagong, Dhaka and Kathmandu

during winter expect Istambul, Almaty.

suspended Kiev, Minsk, Helsinki

maybe I missed one or other
Thank you very much for this, appreciate it!

Jovis is offline  
Old 25th Jun 2022, 06:09
  #4643 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dubai Hills
Age: 37
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by F2L
11-12k USD FO
15-16k USD CA

flying 60-75hours

all allowances included

you can expect 2-3 layovers a month, some are easy to swap to turnarounds and vice versa. Mainly 24h Layovers.

pisa, Catania, Naples, Salzburg, krakow, Warsaw, Belgrade, Bucareste, tirana, lubjiana, Sarajevo, Moscow, Nur sultan, male (maldives), entebbe, dar es salam, Zanzibar, Chittagong, Dhaka and Kathmandu

during winter expect Istambul, Almaty.

suspended Kiev, Minsk, Helsinki

maybe I missed one or other

That's more than the pay at EK. Not sure if your numbers are correct. Can you specify?
WHich allowances do you get?


​​​​​
Shazeem is offline  
Old 25th Jun 2022, 13:59
  #4644 (permalink)  
F2L
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: .
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=Shazeem;11251376]That's more than the pay at EK. Not sure if your numbers are correct. Can you specify?
WHich allowances do you get?


​​​​​CA
basic 25225
transportation 3100
housing 15000
218 per flying hour

FO
basic 17000
transportation 2300
housing 12600
152 per flying hour

EK mainly you don’t get housing allowance because company accommodation.

EK basic salary is higher (they don’t have transportation allowance, they have a chauffeur) and you have a boost on fly pay above certain hours.

FZ you can expect to fly around 70-75 hours per month average, sometimes 65 or even 85 . EK is hard to see them flying less than 80-85

but if you fly 85 hours on FZ you get more money than ek (junior pilot), senior pilots in emirates they will earn way more than FZ

overall package in EK is better than FZ because of pensions, pilots with ek for 15 years they can expect around 600k usd in pensions, in FZ you will have only end of service benefit which will be around 100k.

if you plan a long term stay in the desert, EK is definitely better in regards of money. Lifestyle, training, upgrade, cockpit environment, nothing beats flydubai. Easy going work, chill environment but expect lots of shift patterns change, night flying then morning flying than afternoon (not in this sequence). Mostly you ll have some days off between the patterns change, but still challenging

Last edited by F2L; 25th Jun 2022 at 14:25.
F2L is offline  
Old 25th Jun 2022, 14:31
  #4645 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2022
Location: South Africa
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Updated salary?

[QUOTE=F2L;11251539]
Originally Posted by Shazeem
That's more than the pay at EK. Not sure if your numbers are correct. Can you specify?
WHich allowances do you get?


​​​​​CA
basic 25225
transportation 3100
housing 15000
218 per flying hour

FO
basic 17000
transportation 2300
housing 12600
152 per flying hour

EK mainly you don’t get housing allowance because company accommodation.

EK basic salary is higher (they don’t have transportation allowance, they have a chauffeur) and you have a boost on fly pay above certain hours.

FZ you can expect to fly around 70-75 hours per month average, sometimes 65 or even 85 . EK is hard to see them flying less than 80-85

but if you fly 85 hours on FZ you get more money than ek (junior pilot), senior pilots in emirates they will earn way more than FZ

overall package in EK is better than FZ because of pensions, pilots with ek for 15 years they can expect around 600k usd in pensions, in FZ you will have only end of service benefit which will be around 100k.

if you plan a long term stay in the desert, EK is definitely better in regards of money. Lifestyle, training, upgrade, cockpit environment, nothing beats flydubai. Easy going work, chill environment but expect lots of shift patterns change, night flying then morning flying than afternoon (not in this sequence). Mostly you ll have some days off between the patterns change, but still challenging

are these amounts the new updated salary/transport allowances after the recent post on here that there is as a increase of 500 on transport?

AirbusKing is offline  
Old 25th Jun 2022, 14:33
  #4646 (permalink)  
F2L
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: .
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Desertboki
Apologies for the quality Picou . You may need to zoom etc.
this is quite old. It doesn’t reflect the current roster of flydubai, this is a typical roster before FZ accident, back in 2016. Nowadays there are no such rosters, even if you swap to punish yourself the system wouldn’t allow this rosters. the printing format reflects something aged lol.

Last edited by F2L; 25th Jun 2022 at 18:50.
F2L is offline  
Old 25th Jun 2022, 14:35
  #4647 (permalink)  
F2L
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: .
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=AirbusKing;11251548]
Originally Posted by F2L


are these amounts the new updated salary/transport allowances after the recent post on here that there is as a increase of 500 on transport?

correct, these are the new figures
F2L is offline  
Old 27th Jun 2022, 05:23
  #4648 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Hardover
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Does EK continue to stick to their rule of not hiring the staff flying previosly for FZ?
any other gulf carriers included in this regime
what abuut Wizz AD?
IESS is offline  
Old 27th Jun 2022, 05:28
  #4649 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: EU
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why in your opinion is the lifestyle better as an FZ pilot? Do you mean for socializing with colleagues etc, or just more time to play outside of work?
Is the command timeline as quick as other LCC such as FR or WZZ?

Thanks mate!
pedrothepilot is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2022, 02:17
  #4650 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Brazil
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dwa

Originally Posted by boeingbusdriver
Been through the selection process recently, everything went well except the one Abstract reasoning test. I done quite bad on it. Will this mean I’ve failed the entire selection or do they look at your overall performance? Anyone with some info would be appreciated.
HI friend, did you get the result from test?
RBT190 is offline  
Old 28th Jun 2022, 12:32
  #4651 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Earth
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RBT190
HI friend, did you get the result from test?
nope still waiting
boeingbusdriver is offline  
Old 1st Jul 2022, 19:44
  #4652 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Earth
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How about now ?

Still nothing ?

I'm on the wait too...
A320251N is offline  
Old 5th Jul 2022, 14:34
  #4653 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Brazil
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by A320251N
How about now ?

Still nothing ?

I'm on the wait too...
I sent email, they told they are calling candidates that applied from Last year like October.....
RBT190 is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2022, 14:14
  #4654 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2022
Location: South Africa
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Salary increase

Friend at EK received a notification that Sheikh has announced a pay increase for all Dubai based staff.
Does this mean anything for FZ or wishful thinking.About time we get something
AirbusKing is offline  
Old 9th Jul 2022, 10:45
  #4655 (permalink)  
F2L
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: .
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by AirbusKing
Friend at EK received a notification that Sheikh has announced a pay increase for all Dubai based staff.
Does this mean anything for FZ or wishful thinking.About time we get something

FZ already increased… now it’s EK turn
F2L is offline  
Old 12th Jul 2022, 12:39
  #4656 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When I joined in 2010 I earned 25000 as a DEC. Then they had grade A and grade B salaries. So what salary increase have you now F2L ? 225aed increase in 13 years?
Desertboki is offline  
Old 16th Jul 2022, 17:09
  #4657 (permalink)  
F2L
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: .
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE=Desertboki;11260270]When I joined in 2010 I earned 25000 as a DEC. Then they had grade A and grade B salaries. So what salary increase have you now F2L ? 225aed increase in 13 years?

Salary is what you take home in the end of the month. Basic salary won’t increase in FZ, allowances and fly pay yes, they do. I had 2, and been here for few years only.

tell me where in the world you get 17k usd month flying 85h, which means 4% salary increase this year, tax free to fly a 737 nowadays. In Europe you fly for food, in US in normal days it will take ages to get this money, China is gone.



Last edited by F2L; 16th Jul 2022 at 17:30.
F2L is offline  
Old 17th Jul 2022, 15:19
  #4658 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ex-XL
I was sent the following by my friends & colleagues who are there already:

Salary 25,480 AED per month.
Housing Allowance 16,000 AED per month with which you have to find your own place to live.
Transport Allowance 4,000 AED per month.
Flight pay 150 AED per block hour.

Life insurance 2 years basic salary.
Accident insurance 2 years basic salary.
Loss of license insurance 2 years basic salary up to 62 years of age, then 1 year basic salary up to 63 years of age, after which no cover.

Health care package provided for self, spouse and up to three children.

Education allowance for up to 3 children, which can be claimed to help pay fees at schools outside of UAE. Primary school 30,000 AED per child per year. Secondary school 45,000 AED per child per year.

Annual leave 42 days. One confirmed seat return ticket per year, for self, wife and upto 3 children, from Dubai to the airport nearest your nominated home, nearest that is to an airport that's served by Emirates.

One off moving allowance was 3,500 AED.

There is no pension plan or company contribution.

Don't know how the FO package looks.

If you work 50 block hours per month, for 10 months of the year, with no kids in tow, the package would amount to approx 620,000 AED per year, from which you have to fund all your accommodation and transport and if you have kids the education allowance will not cover all of the school fees for most schools that you'd be prepared to send your children to.

In the last three months the Dirham has slipped 21% against the UK Pound and also slipped 6% against the Euro. My ex-colleagues there also suggested that the whole package is rumoured to have been reduced by 10% on the figures quoted above, plus that the Interline agreement with Emirates is to be chopped which means getting back to home could become expensive and problematic?!

I was thinking of applying but with a worsening exchange rate plus a possible cuts in the T&C's, living in sandpit Dubai is not an attractive prospect.
I will just leave this here to show how flydubai operated. The Middle Eastern airlines are horrible to work for but I don’t know any other carrier that offers less money now in 2022 than they did in 2009.
Desertboki is offline  
Old 17th Jul 2022, 15:31
  #4659 (permalink)  
F2L
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: .
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Desertboki
I will just leave this here to show how flydubai operated. The Middle Eastern airlines are horrible to work for but I don’t know any other carrier that offers less money now in 2022 than they did in 2009.
this is not from flydubai or Emirates. Packages for both are better.

how come a pilot complain that he needs to find a house to live and a car to drive to work??? Does he need someone to mouth feed him too?

dirham is pegged to dolar… and now euro and dolar are on the same level.

pounds and nothing is the same, unless you are from a tinny island
located near by Europe🤪

FZ education is 44k and 66k from age 3 til 21, better than EK, which is from 4 til 18

If it is an old package from flydubai, I have to ask you why you keep posting things from 12 years ago?

Last edited by F2L; 17th Jul 2022 at 19:49.
F2L is offline  
Old 17th Jul 2022, 16:18
  #4660 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: World
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone knows when will it be possible to apply as there are no current vacancies at this moment?
Thank you!
AirInter is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.