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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 10:37
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I just had my online interview cancelled some hours before the time and I was told to wait for new a schedule. Cited operational reasons. Anybody knows what's going on? Can it really be because of the Russia-Ukraine crisis? Anybody else on this group who received a similar mail?
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 11:54
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Originally Posted by B737ngmax
That's been put on back burner for now. Failure rate of NTR pilots was astronomical, so that's why TR's will be called first as they are available in abundance.
B737ngmax i applied for TR DEC back in october 2021. Passed the 3 stages up until the video interview and i was never ever contacted. Applied again !! In feb 2022 did the video interview also never contacted, I’m actively flying the 737-800 and type rated and nothing ?? Any idea on what’s going on ?? Seems you know stuff by your comments thanks
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 20:09
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Originally Posted by Cloud_surfer007
B737ngmax i applied for TR DEC back in october 2021. Passed the 3 stages up until the video interview and i was never ever contacted. Applied again !! In feb 2022 did the video interview also never contacted, I’m actively flying the 737-800 and type rated and nothing ?? Any idea on what’s going on ?? Seems you know stuff by your comments thanks
Right now our sims are running at Max capacity (no pun intended)....
It seems we are short of FOs at the time being with most of us doing high number of hours. We are also upgrading as many as we possibly can in our limited availability of sim slots. I'd say whenever they're in need of captains they'll look at DEC but for most of us here we hope it doesn't come to that anytime soon.
Many FOs here have been waiting for 3-6 years for the upgrade but due to the MAX and Covid situations never had the chance to give it a go.
As for MAX collecting dust in DWC; please head to DWC and take pictures for me as to what you're referring too. This isn't covid times no more. We're operating on all cylinders!
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 06:54
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Originally Posted by de fumo in flammam
So the FOs feel entitled to a command after 3-6 years!?

By that rationale, how dare they join direct as FOs - why don't all new recruits to the company join as CC, or sweeping the hangar? And likewise the CEO! Maybe because experience is important.
He or she didn’t say they felt “entitled” to a command, but that they should be offered the chance if they were suitable, which is entirely different. As far as experience goes an F/O with 3 to 6 years experience at Fz will have somewhere between 2400 to 4800 hours on the 737 in flydubai’s operations plus whatever hours they joined with, probably a minimum of 2500 and many with a lot more than that, so certainly enough for an upgrade if they pass the various checks. And Flydubai don’t give commands away, or at least they never used to, upgradees have to earn it.

Why would a captain with 5000 hrs from Ryanair doing European ops be better than an f/o upgrading with the same number of hours in the ME, Africa, India, Russia and Europe with flydubai ?
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 07:22
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Is the rumor true still that if you join fly Dubai your chances at emirates are gone and vice versa ?
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 07:43
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Originally Posted by CaptZeloZelo
Right now our sims are running at Max capacity (no pun intended)....
It seems we are short of FOs at the time being with most of us doing high number of hours. We are also upgrading as many as we possibly can in our limited availability of sim slots. I'd say whenever they're in need of captains they'll look at DEC but for most of us here we hope it doesn't come to that anytime soon.
Many FOs here have been waiting for 3-6 years for the upgrade but due to the MAX and Covid situations never had the chance to give it a go.
As for MAX collecting dust in DWC; please head to DWC and take pictures for me as to what you're referring too. This isn't covid times no more. We're operating on all cylinders!
Yes I believe it’s very busy in flydubai. I’m saying in the coming months with lack of crew and deliveries, planes will be parked up.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 11:26
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Originally Posted by excrab
He or she didn’t say they felt “entitled” to a command, but that they should be offered the chance if they were suitable, which is entirely different. As far as experience goes an F/O with 3 to 6 years experience at Fz will have somewhere between 2400 to 4800 hours on the 737 in flydubai’s operations plus whatever hours they joined with, probably a minimum of 2500 and many with a lot more than that, so certainly enough for an upgrade if they pass the various checks. And Flydubai don’t give commands away, or at least they never used to, upgradees have to earn it.

Why would a captain with 5000 hrs from Ryanair doing European ops be better than an f/o upgrading with the same number of hours in the ME, Africa, India, Russia and Europe with flydubai ?
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a captain in ryanair doing european ops is useless anyways, i think all europeans are useless in this region. But what i do agree on with the guy you are answering is why do they even open vacancies for Captains and then don’t get in contact with any :/ that is very un-professional.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 15:33
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Originally Posted by Cloud_surfer007
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a captain in ryanair doing european ops is useless anyways, i think all europeans are useless in this region. But what i do agree on with the guy you are answering is why do they even open vacancies for Captains and then don’t get in contact with any :/ that is very un-professional.

I am from Europe, I really hope to join and than have the chance to fly with you to learn something. I hope not to be too useless…….
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 15:36
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Originally Posted by flareflyer
I am from Europe, I really hope to join and than have the chance to fly with you to learn something. I hope not to be too useless…….
flareflyer i have nothing Against you personally bro. But i have operated a few years in this region as a F/O and i’ve been a Captain on the 738 for 3 years as well in the same region. I think eastern pilots (indians, pakistanis, or asians and middle Easterns) in general are better prepared for this region. Best of luck getting hired
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 16:41
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Originally Posted by flareflyer
I am from Europe, I really hope to join and than have the chance to fly with you to learn something. I hope not to be too useless…….
You also say you spent 15 years at EK. So you’re not the hypothetical 5000 hr Ryanair Captain I was talking about…
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 17:11
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Originally Posted by excrab
You also say you spent 15 years at EK. So you’re not the hypothetical 5000 hr Ryanair Captain I was talking about…
Allow me to disagree...just consider that few years ago half Qatar airways was ex-ryanair...so i guess they are not totally useless after all...
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 17:25
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Originally Posted by CaptZeloZelo
Right now our sims are running at Max capacity (no pun intended)....
It seems we are short of FOs at the time being with most of us doing high number of hours. We are also upgrading as many as we possibly can in our limited availability of sim slots. I'd say whenever they're in need of captains they'll look at DEC but for most of us here we hope it doesn't come to that anytime soon.
Many FOs here have been waiting for 3-6 years for the upgrade but due to the MAX and Covid situations never had the chance to give it a go.
As for MAX collecting dust in DWC; please head to DWC and take pictures for me as to what you're referring too. This isn't covid times no more. We're operating on all cylinders!
still short on FOs ? The Apply link is not working on the website.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 18:28
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Originally Posted by Hublot
still short on FOs ? The Apply link is not working on the website.
They're busy sorting thru the first round of applicants still my friend. It's going to take some time. We don't have the capacities to train 200 pilots a month!
We're short; yes. We're hiring; yes. We're training guys as we speak; yes yes!

I never said the FOs were entitled to an upgrade but they do deserve the shot at the interview and sim assessment for upgrade. As previously stated the region is extremely challenging and has been the most diverse flying i've ever done in my life. -10 severe snowstorm one day to monsoon season in indian HF the next day.

As for the guy asking about FZ to EK. There's an anti poach agreement. EK will NOT consider you for any interviews until your initial 3 year bond with FZ is completed. This was pre-pandemic but I believe it'll still be in effect once things normalize once again.

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Old 5th Mar 2022, 08:59
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Originally Posted by Cloud_surfer007
flareflyer i have nothing Against you personally bro. But i have operated a few years in this region as a F/O and i’ve been a Captain on the 738 for 3 years as well in the same region. I think eastern pilots (indians, pakistanis, or asians and middle Easterns) in general are better prepared for this region. Best of luck getting hired

Interesting observation……. In Europe you have LVO and Cold weather ops in Winter and hot season and bad weather in summer flying to certain airports in Greece.
It is a very complete operation.
But the most important thing is the humble approach you should have towards the job and your colleagues.
I had the luck to be trainer in Ek for a few years so I do not see the differences that you see……
Anyway good luck to you and all off us.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 03:30
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Originally Posted by flareflyer
Interesting observation……. In Europe you have LVO and Cold weather ops in Winter and hot season and bad weather in summer flying to certain airports in Greece.
It is a very complete operation.
But the most important thing is the humble approach you should have towards the job and your colleagues.
I had the luck to be trainer in Ek for a few years so I do not see the differences that you see……
Anyway good luck to you and all off us.
Flare
I agree wholeheartedly.
Branding pilots of a region as "useless" is just total cr$p.
There are good and bad apples everywhere , we've all seen the varied types.
It takes good knowledge, skills and specially the right attitude (non- technical skills) to make a good candidate and fortunately , airlines are usually pretty good in the vetting process to ensure the right fit for their airline.
All the best guys and gals , things are looking good worldwide for aviation all things considered
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 11:34
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I'm going for a 2-day assessment in Dubai next week (TR, FO) - if anyone else is going, it would be good to link up prior. PM me on here,

Thank you
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Old 9th Mar 2022, 07:54
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Video interview

Originally Posted by Jovis
I'm going for a 2-day assessment in Dubai next week (TR, FO) - if anyone else is going, it would be good to link up prior. PM me on here,

Thank you
Hey
when was you video interviewed bro?
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Old 9th Mar 2022, 08:21
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Fz extremely busy at the moment, pilots have around 90 hrs on the roster for march.
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Old 9th Mar 2022, 10:40
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Originally Posted by Jovis
I'm going for a 2-day assessment in Dubai next week (TR, FO) - if anyone else is going, it would be good to link up prior. PM me on here,

Thank you
Did you get an email from them? I did the online interview Didn't hear from them since. (2 weeks i guess).
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Old 9th Mar 2022, 12:02
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Originally Posted by B Crew
Fz extremely busy at the moment, pilots have around 90 hrs on the roster for march.
I keep an eye on Boeing deliveries and they have already grounded 2 new aircraft they took deliveries of. They have been parked in Amman Jordan for months. Is this from lack of pilots ? I thought lines of 4000 people wanted to join this amazing airline. I guess they can now recruit in Russia and Belarus.
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