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Tell the ladies to stock up this summer or maybe they don't have to take the pills when they are out of Dubai. Out of sight out of mind. If I had to drive down SZR everyday I would need the good stuff too.
you can guess what country they come from. You can also tell when they forget to take the pills,
And while you are at it, how is it you are spending all this time with other guys wives???????????
Or are you just plain nosey?
There sure does seem to be a lot of people who are really interested in other peoples lives!
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Have you actually started at Emirates yet, Guns-A-GoGo? Or are you still an EK wannabee?
Your choice of handle worries me, although it sure fits the words of the character we've seen posting on this forum in the last few months.
Your choice of handle worries me, although it sure fits the words of the character we've seen posting on this forum in the last few months.
Neither actually.
The handle comes out of respect for a military unit my father was in during a war.
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GUNS
The handle comes out of respect for a military unit my father was in during a war.
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GUNS
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On the contrary have a look at guns a goo goo's first post, I think you'll find the pissy comments started there, as others have also commented.
And you'll also be from the good ol' US of A then?? ...yipee, glad you're here to save us all, spare us all the patriotic stuff, keep it to yourselves, I had family who fought in the WW's but unlike you lot I don't feel the need to splash it about.
So no I'm not being a Dick, I'm just giving a person who has decided to bring up his Fathers memory inappropriately, a bit of a forum slap.
And you'll also be from the good ol' US of A then?? ...yipee, glad you're here to save us all, spare us all the patriotic stuff, keep it to yourselves, I had family who fought in the WW's but unlike you lot I don't feel the need to splash it about.
So no I'm not being a Dick, I'm just giving a person who has decided to bring up his Fathers memory inappropriately, a bit of a forum slap.
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Poping pills
The ladies living in DSO (desert) are as you guessed it are from the land of the free and the home of the popping pill culture. It is probably not their fault. They are living far from home in a vastly different culture and not making as much money as they did in the states so their quality of life has gone down. They would probably all like to be living back in the states but put a good face on it and the pills help big time. Pop away ladies, we are all there for you!
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Those considering Emirates;
I did make a lot of money in the "Land of the Free'' and I love my home country and contrary to the crap I have been reading, I enjoy all Dubai has to offer and do not need "Happy Pills"to get through the days. But may I suggest to those who keep complaining, try visiting a local pharmacy and get something to calm your nerves.
Speaking only of the US and their taxes... after a pilot pays Federal, State Local, Medicare, Socail Security, Fuel and Energy, some states Food, and service TAXES, an EK pilot will have more cash in hand than one working for a failing airline in the US. As an added bonus if a pilot keeps his house in the US and rents it out and lives in Company accomodations the only things one will pay for would be food, sundries and internet.
Our quality of life has improved since joining Emirates. With only a few hours in the air, the opportunity to vacation in exotic places has become a reality. There is no longer a commute and this allows for piltos to have even more free time. Wives should see a drop in stress levels as house keepers, gardeners and nannies can be employed quite inexpensively. Anything, including groceries can be delivered to your door. Children receive a higher quality education here than most public schools in the US and statistically speaking... these children are accepted into better universities both in the US and world wide.
So if you are considering Emirates, chat with the people from your home country to get a better feel for what you may encounter.
I did make a lot of money in the "Land of the Free'' and I love my home country and contrary to the crap I have been reading, I enjoy all Dubai has to offer and do not need "Happy Pills"to get through the days. But may I suggest to those who keep complaining, try visiting a local pharmacy and get something to calm your nerves.
Speaking only of the US and their taxes... after a pilot pays Federal, State Local, Medicare, Socail Security, Fuel and Energy, some states Food, and service TAXES, an EK pilot will have more cash in hand than one working for a failing airline in the US. As an added bonus if a pilot keeps his house in the US and rents it out and lives in Company accomodations the only things one will pay for would be food, sundries and internet.
Our quality of life has improved since joining Emirates. With only a few hours in the air, the opportunity to vacation in exotic places has become a reality. There is no longer a commute and this allows for piltos to have even more free time. Wives should see a drop in stress levels as house keepers, gardeners and nannies can be employed quite inexpensively. Anything, including groceries can be delivered to your door. Children receive a higher quality education here than most public schools in the US and statistically speaking... these children are accepted into better universities both in the US and world wide.
So if you are considering Emirates, chat with the people from your home country to get a better feel for what you may encounter.
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So no I'm not being a Dick, I'm just giving a person who has decided to bring up his Fathers memory inappropriately, a bit of a forum slap.
Actually you were being a dick Fartmaster....
Actually you were being a dick Fartmaster....
Actually you were being a dick Fartmaster
You know the old saying, "If your Aunt had a dick, she'd be your Uncle".
Fart Member, you remember your family with your handle, and I'll remember mine with mine.
Guns
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work for emirates
The problems that you mentioned for the EMIRATES are the same for all the middle est company??
Because I am trying to apply for the Ethiad company at Abu dhabi and I would like to know something about it from someone who know and not from the "official" way....
THANKS
Because I am trying to apply for the Ethiad company at Abu dhabi and I would like to know something about it from someone who know and not from the "official" way....
THANKS
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The good, the bad, and the ugly
Now I know the bad and the ugly about Dubai and EK...although there's always two sides to every story.
Can you describe the benefits and what you like about EK and living in Dubai?
Can you describe the benefits and what you like about EK and living in Dubai?
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s320p, you will almost certainly get a looooong private message from one of your countrymen by the name of Brian. You appear to want to hear some nice things about EK and Dubai. He will doubtlessly give you some, with lotsa sugar sprinkles on top.
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Sorry for the thread creep everyone.
I'm trying to complete the application form for Emirates. The only missing item is a copy of my passport. Whenever I try to send it, I get a time out message.
Does anyone else have the same problem or a possible solution?
Cheers
I'm trying to complete the application form for Emirates. The only missing item is a copy of my passport. Whenever I try to send it, I get a time out message.
Does anyone else have the same problem or a possible solution?
Cheers
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I'm really looking forward to the day that everyone who posts on here suddenly understands that each of us has an opinion, and it is purely subjective and based on our own unique set of circumstances which no-one else can appreciate because they are living a different life.
As for me, I left a U.S. regional for a U.S. ACMI. I am considering EK because after only four months with this cargo company I have forgotten how nice it is to have something as simple and basic as a confirmed hotel room waiting for you at the end of your day/night, or loading equipment that is functional and does not require nine hours sitting on the airplane waiting for the freight to come on/off. Also, while the 74 classic is most assuredly a step, or three, up from an RJ, it is an obsolete type-rating for which demand is mostly dried up. So, I am now in the position of having extensive glass time, and a short amount of heavy int'l time, but not heavy glass int'l time.
As I am still single moving to the sandpit is a decision that affects me alone. While I would like my personal situation to be different, it does have certain advantages. And while the pay may not be enough for some people, I have my financial situation mostly under control so this would be a way to stockpile cash as quickly as possible.
I appreciate AC reminding us all of the importance of looking before you leap and take all his comments seriously while setting aside those that do not pertain to my personal situation. Having flown around the "back side" of the world in recent months, and just completing a 34 hour duty day totaling 16.5 flight hours, with a double crew, I would be happy to fly 7 hours in the middle of the night on an airplane that will actually level off without me having to tell it to do so.
As I said, our subjective opinions are based on our unique circumstances. I've developed a certain philosophy while working for a company with little to no infrastructure and gaining some much sought after international experience, and keeping an open mind as best as can be expected:
no expectations, no disappointments.
It is sad that the industry has deteriorated to the extent that it has, and maybe re-regulation of the US industry will fix it, and maybe it won't. In any case taking the above position has helped with maintaining a certain level of sanity in a mgmt.-favored corporate environment.
Fly safe and walk away at the end of every flight.
As for me, I left a U.S. regional for a U.S. ACMI. I am considering EK because after only four months with this cargo company I have forgotten how nice it is to have something as simple and basic as a confirmed hotel room waiting for you at the end of your day/night, or loading equipment that is functional and does not require nine hours sitting on the airplane waiting for the freight to come on/off. Also, while the 74 classic is most assuredly a step, or three, up from an RJ, it is an obsolete type-rating for which demand is mostly dried up. So, I am now in the position of having extensive glass time, and a short amount of heavy int'l time, but not heavy glass int'l time.
As I am still single moving to the sandpit is a decision that affects me alone. While I would like my personal situation to be different, it does have certain advantages. And while the pay may not be enough for some people, I have my financial situation mostly under control so this would be a way to stockpile cash as quickly as possible.
I appreciate AC reminding us all of the importance of looking before you leap and take all his comments seriously while setting aside those that do not pertain to my personal situation. Having flown around the "back side" of the world in recent months, and just completing a 34 hour duty day totaling 16.5 flight hours, with a double crew, I would be happy to fly 7 hours in the middle of the night on an airplane that will actually level off without me having to tell it to do so.
As I said, our subjective opinions are based on our unique circumstances. I've developed a certain philosophy while working for a company with little to no infrastructure and gaining some much sought after international experience, and keeping an open mind as best as can be expected:
no expectations, no disappointments.
It is sad that the industry has deteriorated to the extent that it has, and maybe re-regulation of the US industry will fix it, and maybe it won't. In any case taking the above position has helped with maintaining a certain level of sanity in a mgmt.-favored corporate environment.
Fly safe and walk away at the end of every flight.
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Just remember to take all the info into account, thats includes the bad with the good. That way when you do come you cant say you did not realize this and that, that would be your fault. If you look at all the info on pprune and tone down the good and the bad is printed by guys that claim they have treated poorly by the company, there is two sides to each story.
I'm not in any way defending the company, its just some guys are full of BS.
Some points to remember:
Temp housing for up to a year ( I would read into that longer)
Latest place is close to the dump(villas) and the 2nd phase at DSO has been delayed
Schooling right now is hard to get your kids into your choice and the cost is more than EK is paying( reviewed in JUY)
Upgrades 4-5 years both fleets, note that the fom refers to the min reqd not the actual
Training can be 3rd party and when you get here they send you away for 6 weeks
its 40+c in the summer so dont complain thats it hot, dont like the heat dont come
both fleets do lots of night turns to India and the new guys do most because of their position in the bid groups, even when you are in you top bid group you will have more than a 100 guys above, DEC's will be at the bottom for a long time,all current FO's will be above you when they upgrade so get use to night turns.
The upgrade, to some , is lots of work and for those that dont do the work the results speak for themselves.
Pilots do get punished( loss of bonus for 2 years)for a number of things
Staff travel is not cheap if it was you would never get a seat, the other 25000+ would fill every seat
ALT's is getting harder to book on the days you want, possible loss of vac days
Leave: NOT a given that you will get summer every year. You will fly as much as they can get out of you in the months you take vac.
Pets are allowed, lots of paper work.
Driving is insane, nothing you have ever seen, unless you have been somewhere else in the gulf. Your kids WILL see dead people on the road can't be avoided.
Inflation, gov says 11% this year but just ask anyone and the real number 30%, that is not EK's fault.
Pay, EK pays the least they have to in order to keep the A/C moving. Maybe we should be thanking the Gov for printing inflation at 10% last year if they didn't we might not have got anything.
Its a bonus NOT a profit share, I think SIA posted about the same profit @ 1.45 B $ dont know what they got for a profit share.
The job is good ,most of the other pilots are very good, the company is OK and Dubai sucks.
I'm not in any way defending the company, its just some guys are full of BS.
Some points to remember:
Temp housing for up to a year ( I would read into that longer)
Latest place is close to the dump(villas) and the 2nd phase at DSO has been delayed
Schooling right now is hard to get your kids into your choice and the cost is more than EK is paying( reviewed in JUY)
Upgrades 4-5 years both fleets, note that the fom refers to the min reqd not the actual
Training can be 3rd party and when you get here they send you away for 6 weeks
its 40+c in the summer so dont complain thats it hot, dont like the heat dont come
both fleets do lots of night turns to India and the new guys do most because of their position in the bid groups, even when you are in you top bid group you will have more than a 100 guys above, DEC's will be at the bottom for a long time,all current FO's will be above you when they upgrade so get use to night turns.
The upgrade, to some , is lots of work and for those that dont do the work the results speak for themselves.
Pilots do get punished( loss of bonus for 2 years)for a number of things
Staff travel is not cheap if it was you would never get a seat, the other 25000+ would fill every seat
ALT's is getting harder to book on the days you want, possible loss of vac days
Leave: NOT a given that you will get summer every year. You will fly as much as they can get out of you in the months you take vac.
Pets are allowed, lots of paper work.
Driving is insane, nothing you have ever seen, unless you have been somewhere else in the gulf. Your kids WILL see dead people on the road can't be avoided.
Inflation, gov says 11% this year but just ask anyone and the real number 30%, that is not EK's fault.
Pay, EK pays the least they have to in order to keep the A/C moving. Maybe we should be thanking the Gov for printing inflation at 10% last year if they didn't we might not have got anything.
Its a bonus NOT a profit share, I think SIA posted about the same profit @ 1.45 B $ dont know what they got for a profit share.
The job is good ,most of the other pilots are very good, the company is OK and Dubai sucks.
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Well Pilots are the same all over the world...
I have been flying twenty years...
Airline flying 13 of them...
Captain almost 11 of them...
All in the US...
I am applying to Emirates...
But the thing that never changes is pilots nagging in bulletin boards.
The guys and girls that are happy are never on the posts...
It is always the naggers... good googly moogly...
Reading these posts are no different than reading the post for pilots at United, American, Delta, Northwest, Britsh Airways, Cathay, JAL, KLM, Lutfwaffer (sorry)... anyway the list is endless...
Someone is always pissed and spends more time complaining than fixing the problem...
I believe that almost everyone went to EK for money... Not climate or social reasons... we are all whores... and went for the cash...
If inflation is bad... (1) every pay cheque move your money to a hard currency and stop it from devalueing... (2) If the retirement funds are so conservative and earning slow rates contribute less... see point (1) and invest privately in foriegn markets earning 55% plus.
I am sorry but you can't be that smart if all you do is complain and whine...
But I swear... all you complainers went to the same flight school because you are all on every airlines bulletin boards.
No one owes you anything... You are obviously bitter... that comes from regret... but I would imagine that had you not gone to EK... you would still be complaining and the bitterness would have a different taste.
You rot your own mind with the sh*t you fertilize it.
SpiderMoth
Airline flying 13 of them...
Captain almost 11 of them...
All in the US...
I am applying to Emirates...
But the thing that never changes is pilots nagging in bulletin boards.
The guys and girls that are happy are never on the posts...
It is always the naggers... good googly moogly...
Reading these posts are no different than reading the post for pilots at United, American, Delta, Northwest, Britsh Airways, Cathay, JAL, KLM, Lutfwaffer (sorry)... anyway the list is endless...
Someone is always pissed and spends more time complaining than fixing the problem...
I believe that almost everyone went to EK for money... Not climate or social reasons... we are all whores... and went for the cash...
If inflation is bad... (1) every pay cheque move your money to a hard currency and stop it from devalueing... (2) If the retirement funds are so conservative and earning slow rates contribute less... see point (1) and invest privately in foriegn markets earning 55% plus.
I am sorry but you can't be that smart if all you do is complain and whine...
But I swear... all you complainers went to the same flight school because you are all on every airlines bulletin boards.
No one owes you anything... You are obviously bitter... that comes from regret... but I would imagine that had you not gone to EK... you would still be complaining and the bitterness would have a different taste.
You rot your own mind with the sh*t you fertilize it.
SpiderMoth