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Can anyone tell me the B777 Capt pay? Also, what about the "extras"? Do they pay for kids in private school either in Doha or outside the country if the kids remained in their home country(EK does this)? How about Medical and Dental coverage? I would also appreciate any information about Rosters? Being if I went I'd be on the B777, does anyone know what the flying will be on that equipment? How they work, seniority for DEC's and the bidding process, vactions? Please, for anyone who answers?
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Hey Charles, the First Officer Pay is $9,900USD per month(based on 70 hours), I think the Captain pay is around $13,300USD per month based on the same number of hours. Flight hour pay is 90QR for F/O's and 120QR for Captain's. I believe the pay is the same for all aircraft types. It would be better to get info from current QR pilots. In addition, it would be helpful to know per diem rates or food allowance rates. Hope this info helps.
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cinnamon bun,
There is no such guarantee of 70hrs pay here
You only get paied while you are in the Air. so if they roster you 50 hrs then 50*120 QR for Captain 50*90 for the FO
by the way NO PAY for deadhead neither,,,
There is no such guarantee of 70hrs pay here
You only get paied while you are in the Air. so if they roster you 50 hrs then 50*120 QR for Captain 50*90 for the FO
by the way NO PAY for deadhead neither,,,
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There's no guarantee in Qatar whatsoever. Bidding doesn't exist as it would undermine the corrupt rostering and the locals who still try to set up the rosters the way way they want. Since the rostering manager has being kicked his butt no one knows whats going to happen to leave bids for the next year. No dental coverage whatsoever except for emergency treatment. Schooling up 35000 QAR per year regardless of number of kids or the place of attendance. Nobody knows what 777 will fly and the experience shows that the first year is usually a mess.
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new F/O payment...
hello guys,
I am offered an interview 7.+8. November and I would like to know:
a) is there any difference for a non rated F/O in the monthly sallery?
b) since I do have a good payed job here in europe (~5500,- net per month)
what exactly can I expect with QR in the first year?
I would appriciate following figures:
-montly basic sallery
-flight hour payment
-allowence for housing
-education allowence
-per diem (if any)
- any other additional payment which could be payed?
- what housing can I expect? flat or villa? how does ist work when having the money instead of the property?
It would be great to have contact to one of you active NEW QR F/Os to ask detailed for your monthly take home pay. Please PM me to [email protected]!
As I montioned before I do have a good payed but no challenging job in europe, and I would like to have compareable values to work with....
many thanks in advance guys.
I am offered an interview 7.+8. November and I would like to know:
a) is there any difference for a non rated F/O in the monthly sallery?
b) since I do have a good payed job here in europe (~5500,- net per month)
what exactly can I expect with QR in the first year?
I would appriciate following figures:
-montly basic sallery
-flight hour payment
-allowence for housing
-education allowence
-per diem (if any)
- any other additional payment which could be payed?
- what housing can I expect? flat or villa? how does ist work when having the money instead of the property?
It would be great to have contact to one of you active NEW QR F/Os to ask detailed for your monthly take home pay. Please PM me to [email protected]!
As I montioned before I do have a good payed but no challenging job in europe, and I would like to have compareable values to work with....
many thanks in advance guys.
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Guys, I am trying to piece together all the various bits of info...Thus far I believe the following is correct:
-Capt pay $13,200 US per month
-Flying override $33 US per month
-If you have children going to school in the US, $13,000 US per year
-Complete Medical Coverage
-No Dental Coverage
-Rosters are not standerd? They are assigned and you don't bid for them?
Can anyone tell me:
-are accomadations are provided for the Capt's? If not, how much is a good apartment?
-how much time off per month do you get and can you get time off in blocks to travel home every month?
-Tell me about the cabin crew, are they European, Asian, Sub continent? I am a bachleor and want to understand if they have a good time on layovers or will I be stuck in a hotel room and the crew never meets for drinks?
Thanks
-Capt pay $13,200 US per month
-Flying override $33 US per month
-If you have children going to school in the US, $13,000 US per year
-Complete Medical Coverage
-No Dental Coverage
-Rosters are not standerd? They are assigned and you don't bid for them?
Can anyone tell me:
-are accomadations are provided for the Capt's? If not, how much is a good apartment?
-how much time off per month do you get and can you get time off in blocks to travel home every month?
-Tell me about the cabin crew, are they European, Asian, Sub continent? I am a bachleor and want to understand if they have a good time on layovers or will I be stuck in a hotel room and the crew never meets for drinks?
Thanks
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QR crazy memos
Cabin crew majority Asian and some arabic and EU .
If you take accomodation from airline as capt you lose 12000 QR .
New memo just come out for cabin crew . NOT ALOWED TO GO OUT IN NIGHT ON OFF DAYS AFTER 22:00 . And already 22 C crew was terminated yesterday becouse thay where out on off day after 22:00 .
lol lol am sure naw we will be short of cabin crew. Let a jum shiping START
If you take accomodation from airline as capt you lose 12000 QR .
New memo just come out for cabin crew . NOT ALOWED TO GO OUT IN NIGHT ON OFF DAYS AFTER 22:00 . And already 22 C crew was terminated yesterday becouse thay where out on off day after 22:00 .
lol lol am sure naw we will be short of cabin crew. Let a jum shiping START
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Let me try to answer some of the questions..
1. There's no difference in basic pay whether you're type rated or not or which fleet you're put in.
2. Basic pay for F/Os start from Qr18,000 with 3% increment yearly.
3. Housing allowance is Qr10,000. With that in Doha you won't get anything fancy... maybe a 2 rooms apartment in the slump. My advice take the Co. apartment ( it's not great but at least save you the headache dealing with the greedy landlords )
4. Transport allowance is Qr1500 fixed.
5. Utilities allowance is Qr300 ( You won't be entitle for this if staying in Co. apartment )
6. Medical insurance is covered up to 100,000GBP peryear with 2000GBP peryear for outpatient perhead. No dental coverage though except for emergency cases ( Good luck claiming for that..
)
7. Child education is Qr50,000 peryear anywhere but only for the school fees. In Doha right now school is one of the biggest problem due to lack of places for expat kids and with the amount that QR is paying it's only enough
for maybe 2-3 kids depending which school you choose.
8. Perdiem..well it depends where you go of course. A330 is maybe the best fleet for layover so far.
9. Lost of licence USD100,000.
10. Days off call up pay is Qr(0.05xBasic salary) perday.
That's all I can think of right now..some figures might be inaccurate ( someone please correct it if it is)
Life in Doha is, I would sum it as a bit boring..( then again it depends where you come from..) There's nothing much to look for here. One has to really find a good activity to keep sane. It's quite a safe country (except on the roads maybe..
)
People in QR ( I'm talking specifically about pilots) are a bunch of nice people to work with. Well there are of course 1 or 2 as**oles but then again which airline doesn't have any...?
If you do joined Qr be prepared to have some shocked of your life too... for here they have numbers of rules which is quite ridiculous to anybody regardless where you come from. Just learn one word to get by...here it comes... "What to do..." (must be pronounced in Indian slang).
Massalama..
1. There's no difference in basic pay whether you're type rated or not or which fleet you're put in.
2. Basic pay for F/Os start from Qr18,000 with 3% increment yearly.
3. Housing allowance is Qr10,000. With that in Doha you won't get anything fancy... maybe a 2 rooms apartment in the slump. My advice take the Co. apartment ( it's not great but at least save you the headache dealing with the greedy landlords )
4. Transport allowance is Qr1500 fixed.
5. Utilities allowance is Qr300 ( You won't be entitle for this if staying in Co. apartment )
6. Medical insurance is covered up to 100,000GBP peryear with 2000GBP peryear for outpatient perhead. No dental coverage though except for emergency cases ( Good luck claiming for that..
)7. Child education is Qr50,000 peryear anywhere but only for the school fees. In Doha right now school is one of the biggest problem due to lack of places for expat kids and with the amount that QR is paying it's only enough
for maybe 2-3 kids depending which school you choose.
8. Perdiem..well it depends where you go of course. A330 is maybe the best fleet for layover so far.
9. Lost of licence USD100,000.
10. Days off call up pay is Qr(0.05xBasic salary) perday.
That's all I can think of right now..some figures might be inaccurate ( someone please correct it if it is)
Life in Doha is, I would sum it as a bit boring..( then again it depends where you come from..) There's nothing much to look for here. One has to really find a good activity to keep sane. It's quite a safe country (except on the roads maybe..
)People in QR ( I'm talking specifically about pilots) are a bunch of nice people to work with. Well there are of course 1 or 2 as**oles but then again which airline doesn't have any...?
If you do joined Qr be prepared to have some shocked of your life too... for here they have numbers of rules which is quite ridiculous to anybody regardless where you come from. Just learn one word to get by...here it comes... "What to do..." (must be pronounced in Indian slang).
Massalama..
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Charles,
Let me answer your questions using reality, rather than nyc's delusional figures!
You start on 26,500QR a month, plus 1,500 transport allowance and this is what you are paid monthly. 28,000QR.
WHEN....... you are cleared to the line, they start paying you the 120QR per BLOCKED (Rostered) hour. For example, if you are rostered for 60 and fly 70, you are only paid 60. Likewise, if rostered 60 and they take a 10 hour trip off you, you will be paid for 50.
For a 70 hour month, you will take home a TOTAL of 36,400QR, which is just about exactly 10,000USD.
You are not paid the flying allowance whilst on your 6 weeks leave so do your own calculations on your yearly salary or read my post on another thread here. If you decide to do the interview, ask them about sick leave, or the lack thereof!
If you choose to find your own place, you will be given 12,300QR per month with which to do with as you see fit. If you want to live in a dog box or share a place like a college student, you will take home some change out of that. If you wish to live reasonably, don't count that money. It belongs to a greedy landlord.
New joining captains are given a 3 bedroom villa which is generally quite suitable to your needs. If you have lots of kids, you might find a friendly senior pilot who will swap his 4 bedroom one.
Finally, you do not get a per diem. You get some small change as reimbursement for meals taken down route. If you take your own noodles or eat McDonalds, you'll be happy to receive the extra 1,500 (approx) in your pay slip.
So there are the facts. Don't be conned by the "package" which includes the accommodation allowance and meal reimbursement.
It's a real pity that the company can't see far enough to offer a decent wage for the job. QR gets pilots but cannot keep them once the reality of the cost of living sinks in. The 'value' of the US dollar and the inflation rate here cause pilots to look elsewhere.
As I said in another thread. Don't come here for the money!
Let me answer your questions using reality, rather than nyc's delusional figures!
You start on 26,500QR a month, plus 1,500 transport allowance and this is what you are paid monthly. 28,000QR.
WHEN....... you are cleared to the line, they start paying you the 120QR per BLOCKED (Rostered) hour. For example, if you are rostered for 60 and fly 70, you are only paid 60. Likewise, if rostered 60 and they take a 10 hour trip off you, you will be paid for 50.
For a 70 hour month, you will take home a TOTAL of 36,400QR, which is just about exactly 10,000USD.
You are not paid the flying allowance whilst on your 6 weeks leave so do your own calculations on your yearly salary or read my post on another thread here. If you decide to do the interview, ask them about sick leave, or the lack thereof!
If you choose to find your own place, you will be given 12,300QR per month with which to do with as you see fit. If you want to live in a dog box or share a place like a college student, you will take home some change out of that. If you wish to live reasonably, don't count that money. It belongs to a greedy landlord.
New joining captains are given a 3 bedroom villa which is generally quite suitable to your needs. If you have lots of kids, you might find a friendly senior pilot who will swap his 4 bedroom one.
Finally, you do not get a per diem. You get some small change as reimbursement for meals taken down route. If you take your own noodles or eat McDonalds, you'll be happy to receive the extra 1,500 (approx) in your pay slip.
So there are the facts. Don't be conned by the "package" which includes the accommodation allowance and meal reimbursement.
It's a real pity that the company can't see far enough to offer a decent wage for the job. QR gets pilots but cannot keep them once the reality of the cost of living sinks in. The 'value' of the US dollar and the inflation rate here cause pilots to look elsewhere.
As I said in another thread. Don't come here for the money!
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wonder why QR pilots are still QR pilots because the package as stated in above post is lower than EK,EY and even lower than GF package.and in these airlines pilots life is far more comfortable than QR.I mean why a pilot needs to live in fear of being reported for some silly silly reasons all the time when he has a choice of living in peace with EK and EY and earn more(or at least same amount)
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No FD NO SRS:...
Well there are a couple of reason:
-Either some of them fail the interview at EY OR EK and join QR.
-Some of our pilots probably have a few chance to go elsewhere.(for different reasons...)
-For some of them (like from South America,indonesia),the money here is still very good(the FULL salary of a cpt in those countries are much more less than the BASIC Salary of an new F/O here).Good for them.
-Some of our pilots are not hit by the drop of the U$ dollar yet.
-Some of them are waiting till the bond has expired before leaving.
Regarding the new regulation for cabin crew mentioned above by CEO PITA...really the little big man never missed any opportunities to make the place more attractive for new crews......
Well there are a couple of reason:
-Either some of them fail the interview at EY OR EK and join QR.
-Some of our pilots probably have a few chance to go elsewhere.(for different reasons...)
-For some of them (like from South America,indonesia),the money here is still very good(the FULL salary of a cpt in those countries are much more less than the BASIC Salary of an new F/O here).Good for them.
-Some of our pilots are not hit by the drop of the U$ dollar yet.
-Some of them are waiting till the bond has expired before leaving.
Regarding the new regulation for cabin crew mentioned above by CEO PITA...really the little big man never missed any opportunities to make the place more attractive for new crews......
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how much
Ok can a First Officer be brave enough, to mention how much he made for a specific month and how he did work for the same month!
I mean lets say for August 2007:
Money received net and his flight hours, block hours and flight duty hours. his overnights and/or layovers. the fleet he is flying for. You can pm me as well if you dont want to make it public. [email protected]
Sorry annoying you with that but I dont wanna give up a job here where my wife can work as well and earn money with me. We would have the same amount here at the end of a month.
I mean lets say for August 2007:
Money received net and his flight hours, block hours and flight duty hours. his overnights and/or layovers. the fleet he is flying for. You can pm me as well if you dont want to make it public. [email protected]
Sorry annoying you with that but I dont wanna give up a job here where my wife can work as well and earn money with me. We would have the same amount here at the end of a month.
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qr productive pay
The productive pay (flying pay) that is received on each months payslip is based on the actual rostered time for the pay period from 16th of the previous month to the 15th of this present months rostered period, if your roster started with 60 for eg. and you ended up with, say, 80hrs, you get paid for 80hrs published roster time, if you flew 40hrs only then you get paid for 40hrs. pay based on actual done flights(time based on rostered figures as displaced on ones roster sked) And by the way, if you divert you also get paid for the diversion time and back (contrary to popular opinion). Done it once and got paid for it...no questions asked!!!! Hope this clears this matter up a bit.
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Slam Dunk,
If you want to fly a 777 in the Middle East, check out EK vs. QR. I hear the CEO at QR is a tyrant. Plenty of 777 slots at EK as they continue to grow and add routes (just added Dubai-Sao Paulo). Stay in Greece rather than go to QR - that's my advice.
Good luck.
If you want to fly a 777 in the Middle East, check out EK vs. QR. I hear the CEO at QR is a tyrant. Plenty of 777 slots at EK as they continue to grow and add routes (just added Dubai-Sao Paulo). Stay in Greece rather than go to QR - that's my advice.
Good luck.
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Indeed Slam Dunk.., If you want to come to work in the Gulf,i honestly think itīs really worth to try EK or EY as well....Donīt RUSH yourself before making any decision.Nobody can force you to trust us off course...but its just a wise advice before making any mistake...
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Thx guys,
but the problem with Emirates and Etihad are that they want at least 2000hrs on Jet aircraft. As I mentioned before, I do not have any Jet Rating and no jet hours. Qatar is the only company in the gulf region which offers this opportunity for some one like me!
So what shall I do? Just say no and fly props for peanuts? I do have approx. 5000hrs on aircrafts like Fokker 50! I am 31 years old?
Donīt you think it is worth?
but the problem with Emirates and Etihad are that they want at least 2000hrs on Jet aircraft. As I mentioned before, I do not have any Jet Rating and no jet hours. Qatar is the only company in the gulf region which offers this opportunity for some one like me!
So what shall I do? Just say no and fly props for peanuts? I do have approx. 5000hrs on aircrafts like Fokker 50! I am 31 years old?
Donīt you think it is worth?