All GF B767's indefinitely grounded!!!!!!
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It's really good to have you in this loop, Sinbad, as it explains a lot to those of us, who have to trust the signature in the Tech Log.
It's really good to have you in this loop, Sinbad, as it explains a lot to those of us, who have to trust the signature in the Tech Log.
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As i mentioned earlier, the c checks are now being carried out by SR Technics..i suspect strongly that they are going to catch alot of stuff that was previously "missed" over several years of maintenance by the previous maintenance contractor.
Trace amounts of minor corrosion are easily treated without structure work and will not warrant grounding an aircraft. Corrosion severe enough to warrant structural work/sheet metal replacement is a bit more than minor in my humble opinion. Glad they are now inspecting the aircraft thouroughly and fixing the problems with a tool other than one you stick in your shirt pocket.
Trace amounts of minor corrosion are easily treated without structure work and will not warrant grounding an aircraft. Corrosion severe enough to warrant structural work/sheet metal replacement is a bit more than minor in my humble opinion. Glad they are now inspecting the aircraft thouroughly and fixing the problems with a tool other than one you stick in your shirt pocket.
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Future of GF safety and training
http://www.aviationnews.com.au/Past_...2_PDFs/p21.pdf
Found the above article....12 months old, however, bodes well for the future?
Of course I'm proud they are doing it in Aus
Cheers.
Found the above article....12 months old, however, bodes well for the future?
Of course I'm proud they are doing it in Aus
Cheers.
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767 Issues
It is sad to see GF in such crises. I have to agree with Neilb767 & Left
Coaster on this matter. GAMCO can be blamed easily for the
current crises with the GF67 fleet not that I am defending GAMCO,
but you get what you pay for at GAMCO & surely GF didn't pay what
other customers did...and in most cases they wanted things for free!
since they owned share in GAMCO. GF responsibility like any other
airline is to make sure that the contracted maintance provider
GAMCO or whoever actually does the maintance to their requirements,
it is quite clear that GF reps/laison in GAMCO and the middle
managment in matce. right to the top that kept quite all this
time should be held responsible even if the need arise to show
them the door ....so be it! this is just the 67 fleet ....can't wait
for the 320!! Best of luck to all.
Coaster on this matter. GAMCO can be blamed easily for the
current crises with the GF67 fleet not that I am defending GAMCO,
but you get what you pay for at GAMCO & surely GF didn't pay what
other customers did...and in most cases they wanted things for free!
since they owned share in GAMCO. GF responsibility like any other
airline is to make sure that the contracted maintance provider
GAMCO or whoever actually does the maintance to their requirements,
it is quite clear that GF reps/laison in GAMCO and the middle
managment in matce. right to the top that kept quite all this
time should be held responsible even if the need arise to show
them the door ....so be it! this is just the 67 fleet ....can't wait
for the 320!! Best of luck to all.
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Bombay HF, if I could hazzard a guess, I would think it was the same reason that Hogan left for Etihad . . . namely "mo' money."
You know what they say, money talks, B.S. walks.
I don't know if the same conditions would exist for us bus drivers at Etihad (last I heard, there is a hiring ban of GF pilots for "international political reasons").
You know what they say, money talks, B.S. walks.
I don't know if the same conditions would exist for us bus drivers at Etihad (last I heard, there is a hiring ban of GF pilots for "international political reasons").
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I'm really sad to see Pete go.
He was one of the brass-guys, who actually did his best.
A lot of guys are leaving these days. I wonder what GF will do to make people stay?
The fact is that GF have been sleeping, when all other carriers were up and running in the region.
Something has to be done now. It could be such a nice place to be, but I don't see the company as being competitive, as long as it is more a social project to keep groundcrew away from unemployment than an airline fighting for customers.
Relying on cashflow from the government is not a reliable foundation for the future. Agreed, injections may be required, but the aim should be to do without.
Maybe it's just me, but how come we often fly with full planes, apparently without being able to make money?
Are we in fact making money, only to have it vanish into some guys' pockets in the pink palace, or what is the explanation?
It is a fact, that GF is no longer the player in this region, that it used to be. Those times will never come back. We have to look forward now, and provide the service to our customers, that they pay for. This also means not mismaintaining the planes, to save a buck. Look at the situation now: How many of our guests will change over to our competitors, out of fear that GF planes are either unsafe, unflying or simply just delayed? Our passengers are not stupid, and if a rumour settles, that it is safer in all ways to choose someone else, then we'll loose them. This we cannot afford!!!
The people in the company, who are living in the past will either have to change their philosophy or go. Maybe the introduction of the very realistic fact, that jobsafety is no longer automatically ensured would help everybody to do their best.
It certainly doesn't help GF to improve, when guys like PM are not allowed to do their jobs because of ancient traditions. Unless things change, more good guys with professional pride will be leaving.
In times of war (another word for competition), a company must always seek to have the best possible guy in every position, regardless of nationality or name.
He was one of the brass-guys, who actually did his best.
A lot of guys are leaving these days. I wonder what GF will do to make people stay?
The fact is that GF have been sleeping, when all other carriers were up and running in the region.
Something has to be done now. It could be such a nice place to be, but I don't see the company as being competitive, as long as it is more a social project to keep groundcrew away from unemployment than an airline fighting for customers.
Relying on cashflow from the government is not a reliable foundation for the future. Agreed, injections may be required, but the aim should be to do without.
Maybe it's just me, but how come we often fly with full planes, apparently without being able to make money?
Are we in fact making money, only to have it vanish into some guys' pockets in the pink palace, or what is the explanation?
It is a fact, that GF is no longer the player in this region, that it used to be. Those times will never come back. We have to look forward now, and provide the service to our customers, that they pay for. This also means not mismaintaining the planes, to save a buck. Look at the situation now: How many of our guests will change over to our competitors, out of fear that GF planes are either unsafe, unflying or simply just delayed? Our passengers are not stupid, and if a rumour settles, that it is safer in all ways to choose someone else, then we'll loose them. This we cannot afford!!!
The people in the company, who are living in the past will either have to change their philosophy or go. Maybe the introduction of the very realistic fact, that jobsafety is no longer automatically ensured would help everybody to do their best.
It certainly doesn't help GF to improve, when guys like PM are not allowed to do their jobs because of ancient traditions. Unless things change, more good guys with professional pride will be leaving.
In times of war (another word for competition), a company must always seek to have the best possible guy in every position, regardless of nationality or name.
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Relying on cashflow from the government is not a reliable foundation for the future. Agreed, injections may be required, but the aim should be to do without.
Unfortunately, fairly unlevel playing field in the region, and IATA and industry watchers warn of the dangers of overcapacity in the region. With the Indian airline industry growing rapidly, traditional sources of revenue are more and more scarce.
It is a pretty difficult business in other parts of the world also. As long as I have my job and the correct amount of money arrives on-time in my bank account, this clam is happy.
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Spot on Spirit.......cant agree with you more........Bahrain is probably the best place to live in the Middle East/Gulf States unfortunately GF is not where it should and can very well be and the competition is on the increase and getting more aggressive than ever. GF are almost gonna miss the boat if they haven't already............
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Speaking of boats..think I'm gonna take HOFO Pete (aka Maverick) out to Jarada reef and make him stay until he withdraws his resignation
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How will I get to the BRH F1 GP now ? - hope they re-schedule me ok !
glad they found the problems on the ground, at least they are being fixed & hopefully things will improve now with the new MRO , optimistic as ever....
glad they found the problems on the ground, at least they are being fixed & hopefully things will improve now with the new MRO , optimistic as ever....