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left_to_first_class 26th Feb 2007 10:27

All GF B767's indefinitely grounded!!!!!!
 
News from Ops this morning.

Six B767 have to be grounded for the remainder of the Winter schedule to ensure that outstanding faults are fixed - and no exact timeframe for these planes to return back into the fleet from SR techs.

Any of you 767 drivers heard anymore about what will happen to your roster ?

LOC GREEN 26th Feb 2007 12:32

This information is a bit exaggerated and does not make any sense :rolleyes: … I would understand that GF grounding A/C’s if they are unsafe to fly but not for outstanding technical problems unless they are all unsafe which I doubt it :suspect: … if this is the case they might as well ground all A320’s!!! Secondly, grounding six A/C’s means a lot of flights has to be cancelled that’s mean just close the airline and stay home… :ugh:

runway in use 26th Feb 2007 14:16

Thats alot at one time!!!!!

how come they ground 6 767s at one time, confirm from your resourses again. they might be thinking to ground them once they lease new aircrafts.

left_to_first_class 26th Feb 2007 14:17

LOC

This info is not exaggerated.

There was a change proposal sent out by schedule planning and it didn't make good reading.
From my sources, scheduling are looking at cancelling a large number of flights for a few weeks in March.
The "grounding" is to fix some problems so that the A and C checks are completed correctly (unlike Gamco).

jackbauer 26th Feb 2007 16:01

3 76's grounded. lease in's to cover shortfall. Thank GAMCO maintainance!

runway in use 26th Feb 2007 17:46

any idea which aircraft they gonna lease???

neilb767 26th Feb 2007 21:59

Jack,
Not that Im defending GAMCO, but it is GF responsibility to make sure that your contracted maintance provider actually does the maintance to your requirements. ( you dont get what u deserve, you get what you negotiate)

Frankly, I think the mess is the responsibility of the GF liason.

GF is literally coming apart at the seams, check out Flight International, I think its NOV 06 edition. 15 Years ago GF had 80 % of the gulf market, and today GF's share is equal to 3 year old EY at just 15 %.

GF was apparently one of the first airlines to do a CAT approach into LHR, and today only has the basic ETOPS.

Its a slow degredation of the airline, the only constant here is the middle management and there ideology. ie , it worked 20 yrs ago !

Clear skys and tailwinds aheah ?? I dont think so !...

Left Coaster 27th Feb 2007 00:04

Gf live up to anything contractual? Won't happen soon guys...I have first hand exerience (along with quite a few others who have left in the past few years) of the way GF handles anything "legal"...wouldn't trust them as far as I could chuck em...thieves and pirates...
Having said that I did work alongside some really good people, line guys who only wanted to get in a fair days work. Although the tools they had to work with were in poor shape...Hope that those who stay remain safe... watch yer six boys, this company won't be "gittenerdun" sometime soon.

surely not 27th Feb 2007 07:29

My understanding is that 1 a/c has been found to have problems and the others need to be checked before being returned to service if they are clear of the problem.

Let us hope that the problem is not fleet wide and is restricted to one a/c, which would at least be manageable and not give widespread disruption to the passengers.

I am not going to say what the problem is as I haven't the basic engineering knowledge to describe it properly, and there is enough exaggeration on here already!!

Jockofthebushveld 27th Feb 2007 08:58

Please LOC green , Believe things some time !!!!
6 Planes are grounded and most of us are staying put at home.Jakarta,Katmandu,Dhaka, has all been cxd.GF will never take planes off for service they are too short, these planes are stuffed.The only one flying is A4O-GV and that i flew a few days ago and already had 5 snags of which was.
Aft temp controller- u/s
Right IRS- U/s
LeftH Thurst REV -u/s
And we got flap/slat assemetry too, which becomes a no go eventually.
I was phoned to stay home and the crew desk gave me the info on how many is stuffed.

Happy flying

surely not 27th Feb 2007 09:44

A4O-GU taxiing for take off as I write, positioning to DUB. Not sure why it is going to DUB.

Trader 27th Feb 2007 10:27

Gone to DUB for maintenance - which is a good thing since he mechs there will NOT release it until it is it and legal. Last year they kept the first one for several extra weeks and had Boeing come to inspect some serious corrosion issues.

The 6th aircraft apparantly failed a boroscope on the engine - grounded. This is an unplanned set of groundings and, hopefully, will embarras GF to point that something gets done. Heads in the maintenance dept should roll over this fiasco since it is going to be costly.

We don't get bonus' because ther is no profit yet this crap continues to happen!!

I hope the governments are finally embarrased to the point of action - GF neds a wholesale housecleaning.

Jockofthebushveld 27th Feb 2007 14:17

Just got a call, I am on stby due to the 9th 767 been grounded
mashalla!!!

gulfboy 27th Feb 2007 14:38

Had a bit of a look at AIMS and there are still quite a few 767 flights rostered for today, tomorrow and the following days.
And true, a few AC are being flown to DUB and other places with only flight deck and one CC.
Incidently, WHY is one CC needed on such trips?

left_to_first_class 27th Feb 2007 14:51

Yep, It ain't looking to good for GF over the next week.
Already massive disruption with DAC, KTM, JKT, KUL and others cancelled.

Other airlines are rubbing their hands with this disruption as GF only ends up paying the other carriers to carry these pax - many who bought seats at cheap prices !

Some of the B767 are grounded indefinitely until corrosion and other problems are fixed.
Is this the wake-up call for the "bored" to sign some new aircraft, cancel unprofitable routes and fire those in maintenence who should have kept an eye on the quality of work from Gamco ?

Talk amongst the local staff is that the company is going down because of these problems, and more to come on the A320 when these start going in for closer checks.

Andre Dose - do you really want to come here ??

REACH-69 27th Feb 2007 16:41

Reading all these bulletins ,about what's going on ( a/c's grounded ,crew stranded down route and flights cancelled ) makes me wonder for how long this company is gonna survive and the local guys are still staying back.........all i can say is that you guys are really loyal to your company and i have to salute you for your spirit.:ok:

gulfboy 27th Feb 2007 17:19

Say, could it be that someone is ****ting bricks at the moment because he just realized that GF's IATA/IOSA (IATA operatioal safety audit) is expiring on May 5th.
(http://www.iata.org/ps/services/iosa...s/Gulf+Air.htm)

sheryas777 27th Feb 2007 18:22

Time To Speak-up
 
One hundred % agree,GF should get rid of those kept quite about the condition of the aircraft.Some who once were incharge of GF and assigned in Gamco to follow up on the maintenance of GF aircraft.
If the Boared and management are closing their eyes and do not want to question those involved,there are poeple who are trying to take up the matter in Bahrain parlement.
Miss Latifa Alqoud is keen to bring up Gulf air lost and mismangement.

Spirit 27th Feb 2007 18:23

Just wait and watch, you guys: As always, it will be someone else's fault, as absolutely MAFI wrongdoings ever happen in the pink palace.
Anywhere else, someone might end up dancing at the end of a rope (or having his head chopped off, as in that place beyond the causeway), but certainly not here.
I'm telling you folks: It's all a conspiracy by the evil europeans, the evil americans...or the evil...others ;-)
GF never did anything wrong :}

LOC GREEN 27th Feb 2007 18:34

It is true... all 767's probably will be grounded tomorrow... there are two a/c left on the line, these are going for a check tomorrow midday and most probably will be grounded as I heard today from the guys in ops… what I understood that all 767’s have corrosion (main problem!!) and unsafe to fly but GF hoping that some of them will be released to service after some maintenance :uhoh:


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