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Etihad Employment - threads merged - all you need to know

Old 9th Apr 2008, 14:49
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Well, I turned them down as I got a very negative vibe from the whole thing. During boarding on my flight to AUH, I flashed my crew ID told the head purser that I was a pilot going to the assessment and asked if there was any chance for an upgrade. He was very nice, smiled and quietly suggested that "this is not a wise thing to do when you later work for us, as it can get you into trouble."

I chatted a lot with the rest of the cabin crew on my positioning flights to/from AUH and they didn't make a very happy impression and this was proven to me when they showed me their rosters.

The posts from people like Alghazal and CT7 on page 27 of this threat only confirmed my suspicion. Or just check out Yani's post.

EY want to convey the image of playing 'hard to get,' by sending out emails as a part of the selection process, asking you for a preference for a starting date. Then they put in bold letters to: please note that this is not an employment offer letter or declaration of result of your assessment.

Then they send you a contract giving you 2 weeks to sign: "this offer will remain open for your acceptance for 2 weeks from contract date. If we do not hear from you by this date, the offer may be withdrawn."

Don't be fooled though, it's all smoke and mirrors. Behind this shiny first class 'premium airline' image is a very low cost airline mentality when it comes to treating crews. When I didn't sign, they kept on calling/emailing me for months thereafter asking me to reconsider.

Remember, these are the T&C's during a bull pilot market. I don't even want to think about what this outfit would be like during economic bad times when pilot jobs are scarce.

You'd have to be totally desperate to join this lot.

Just remember, if you're stupid enough to go for an assessment: on day three (your medical) get a BLUE background on your passport photos!

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Old 9th Apr 2008, 14:52
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Are the places nice that you are put in? It is very important when considering uprooting your family to move across the world. Now for us pilots we could just about live anywhere that keeps the rain and snow off our backs and the wind out of our faces but those of us who have wives and children it demands just a little more.

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Old 9th Apr 2008, 18:24
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Are the places nice?

well it obviously depends on your point of view. Moonbase Bravo, where most of the new villas are, is miles from town and doesn't have anything in the way of shops or facilities nearby. The actual villas are fine (just a few new-house teething troubles) That being said I have met people who hate being there and others who dont mind - although I would say that due to its location your wife really needs to drive ASAP.

The apartments by the airport are also nice brand-new apartments - again its location that lets them down, although they are nearer civilization than the villas.

Otherwise its privately owned villas or apartments anywhere and any standard that the Housing Department can get.

If you want to wait for a place in a particular area you usually stay in temporary accommodation downtown - one hotel that is used is the Vision

hope this helps
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Old 9th Apr 2008, 20:13
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Hate to say it ibus, but you pretty much " hit the nail on the head" with your observations
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 04:44
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My understanding is that most of the crew villa accommodation is near the airport at a place called Khalifa. Is this correct? If this is the case then the area has a big future..

To quote wikipedia

Khalifa City is a residential suburb of the city of Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. It is divided into 3 areas: Khalifa City A, Khalifa City B, and New Khalifa City. Khalifa City A is on the main highway to Dubai and lies about 30 kilometres from Abu Dhabi. It is close to Abu Dhabi International Airport. Khalifa City B is further inland and is near Bani Yas and Al Shawamikh.

The new Khalifa City is planned to be between A and B. All of Khalifa City is currently being developed in what will become the new city center of Abu Dhabi.

Khalifa City A, which already has around 600-700 houses, will be adjacent to the prestigious Al Raha Beach project. This project will include residential and commercial units, as well as many international hotels. This project, which is being built by Al-Dar properties, is being compared to the illustrious Sheikh Zayed Road in neighboring Dubai.
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 17:04
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Yeah, the 10 year plan. Of course by the time there is any amenity (read anything...) for the staff to use in this area, EY will have had to move staff due to the villas in this region either falling down due serious cracks or due high rents....

But they keep the snow away, but not the rain. They leak like the prov....

Until this airline starts to treat its staff with the respect they deserve, things will continue to bumble along...

Go EK !
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Old 20th Apr 2008, 11:53
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Etihad English test

Hi Guys,

Any info about the Etihad English test.
How to prepare and any books etc.
There is a lot of info about the tech exam but not much info about an english test.
i will appreciate any info.

Cheers
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Old 20th Apr 2008, 15:05
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If english is your first language then you will have no problem. Of course if you're from Australia.... who knows...
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 23:41
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Having read the entire thread here, i have decided to apply to Emirates instead.Initially i was very keen on Ethiad! Housing problems and allowance shortfall and no pension is a non-starter, just in case management want to know what a prospective, qualified, family-man applicant thinks!
I would appreciate comments on quality of family life/cost of living in Dubai as a comparison.
I want to stay at least 5 yrs and buy there.
Thanks to all at Ethiad who posted such candid info.
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Old 12th May 2008, 21:52
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any specifics on the written technical exam, any one remember the questions. Thanks
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Old 14th May 2008, 08:06
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Read all you can before accepting any OFFER .

YOU might get pushed into a corner like our colleagues with the housing issues where they have to put out money from their Pocket to stay .
and check out where the new apts. will be aske them for a view befor accepting the job .

You may end up out in the desert near the labour camps .

OPEN your EYES and ASK and have your answeres in black and White .

one day they Say Blue the next is GREY .

It seemed to be improving but the Cost of living here has been increasing and of course school and commodities which translates to salary issues .

What we just got is just not enough . On top of that short layovers and no more than 3 days staright off .

Not everything that shines is good. there are alot administration issues as well and no common sense to administrate them .
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Old 19th May 2008, 19:14
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when i accepted the position with EY ,i was told that i will be flyng the 320 for a six months after which i will go to 330,it has been over 6 months and i dont see any CCQ,now they said that maybe in one year, wellcome to EY.
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Old 20th May 2008, 20:41
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Hi cap ducal,

How is the life in abu dhabi?.

And how in the 320? (roaster, benefits,etc...)

IŽll try to join the company the next month.

Thanks
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Old 21st May 2008, 07:33
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Where is that Mussafa place everybody talks about.
I will start with EY in the near future and you guys already made me scared with all the comments about that place. IS IT THAT BAD??????
Where exactly is it located, close to town or close to the airport? Is true there is nothing but sand around the place??
Please some inputs would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all
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Old 21st May 2008, 07:47
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24°20'37.41"N
54°32'46.96"E

I believe the Google Earth is bit out of date now. Open to correction, but I have bumped into this place, whilst unintentionally getting lost in the area with a wrong turn.

This is the industrial part of Abu Dhabi
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Old 21st May 2008, 20:09
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Mussafa....uffff

Mussafa is something like Star Wars 1 and Auh is like the cantine whith the monster band....by the way we have also all the actors..
Darth Vader, Yoda,R2D2...but no one Jedi to save us
New joiners ,MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.
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Old 21st May 2008, 20:58
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Interview

Hi all,

just wondering who has just attended the assesment sessions.
What are they asking in the interview any tech q,z
how is the tech exam like?

Any info would be appreciated

Happy Landings
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Old 21st May 2008, 21:08
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DO not WASTE your time , inflation will eat you .
There are now better contracts that allow you to go back home on a regular basis not having you stuck here in the desert with 5 day in a row STBY .roster sometimes.

good luck and like our friend above said , we have got all the caracters and different sign language in this little island called ABU
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Old 26th May 2008, 22:49
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Can anyone please give some information on etihads group excersise and sim ride details please much appreciated.
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Old 27th May 2008, 11:17
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Group Exercise runs for 30 mins. Group given 1 instruction sheet and 2 bags of plastic components/parts. Need to build a multi sided tunnel and a cart. The point of the exercise is to see how people interact with each other to achieve the task and not necessarily to complete the task. Typically the group is observe by 3 people making notes on the participants. Key objective is CRM.

SIM ride is pretty critical on selection. As airbus rated pilots are only be interviewed at the moment this is the profile being examined.

A320 or A330 sim depending on availability. You are assessed by 2 captains for 2 specific aspects. Manipulation skills and CRM. PNF is also being observed during the PF turn.

All the A320 specific information is sent to you with the invitation email.

SIM set up for you in a ready to go mode at runway end. Takeoff AUH R/W 13 with V1 cut. Looking for standard 1 Eng inop procedures up to 3000 then through to the ready for approach checklist. Autopilot and all automation ON for this stage.

Descend on downwind to 2000 then radar vectored to join 12nm final ILS LLZ R/W 13. Now the hard part. Autopilot/FD OFF. In some cases Auto thrust OFF. Do S/E RAW DATA capture of LLZ, configure and capture GS. Tolerances must be kept within 1 DOT from 10nm to 500feet. Below this not so critical but you must land on the runway. You get 1 chance at a go around if required.

The GCAA requirements for initial issue of license is to do the RAW DATA S/E ILS and for this reason this is critical. If you cannot do this then you can't get a GCAA license and hence cannot get employed.

Goodluck and enjoy....
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