Hi alekpilot, I am in the same situation as this! Would you have any update on your situation? Did you manage to get a class 1 medical?

Hi, I am in a similar situation to this. Would you have any update?

Hi,

I am a private pilot, flying in Europe, aspiring to be an airline pilot. When I passed my class 2 examination, the doctor diagnosticated me a light colour blindness and gave me a restricted class 2 (day VFR only). I already read the topic just above about collective colour vision thread but I would like to have your feedback if recently, you passed an exam in an EASA Aeromedical center. Indeed, I would like to in an Aemc that are lenient, still using lantern testing and would like to have your feedback. I was thinking to pass my Class 1 in one of Scandinavian countries, in the South or East of Europe.

Thank you for your help,

Hi guys,
Have you noticed that from january 1st, the only color vision test will be the CAD? I found this terrible. No more options anymore. Too bad.

Has anyone or do people ever just learn the ishihara plates?

I seem to remember 12 years ago when I went for a class 2 medical, that the book was not presented in a random order. Thus, making it a fairly easy test to bull***** a pass out of.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Memory is foggy but pretty sure my AME flipped to random pages

Thanks for letting me know.

my next question/query is: I am planning on attempting a Class 1 medical. Would it be best to book in at the City University first. I know I won’t score 14 on the Ishihara and would actually like a detailed report on how bad or good my CVD actually is. Plus, I can get the CAD done there. I’m thinking, I could potentially save myself £1K for the initial medical. Or, if things go well, bring a pass on the CAD to my medical?

Any thoughts folks?

Definitely go to City University. I’m booked in there in the next two weeks. I failed my CAD test two weeks ago with a protan score of 20. I’m wanting to find out if the City University CAD test is more accurate as many people above have said. AME centers don’t have the best environment to complete the CAD test.

Also, City University can tell you whether you can pass an anomaloscopy even if you fail the CAD (Both are valid to UK CAA). I’m not giving up just yet!

Hello everyone,

I have the following situation: I want to obtain an initial EASA Class 1 medical certificate. Four years ago, I underwent an EASA Class 2 medical exam but failed both the Ishihara test and the anomaloscope (AQ 4.2). As a result, I received the VCL limitation, and the doctor advised me to try a lantern test.

Last year, I finally decided to give it a go. Unfortunately, I wasn’t feeling well that day (if it had been a flight day, I wouldn’t have flown). As a result, I failed both the Beynes lantern test and the CAD test in Cologne. They didn’t even provide me with the CAD score.

Later that year, I took the CAD test again at another facility and passed with a score of 5.8 SN (deutan). Now I’m unsure about my next steps. Of course, I was happy to have passed, but this leaves me with one passed CAD test against previous failures. I haven’t submitted the CAD results yet because the German aviation authority (LBA) is quite unpredictable. If they deny my Class 1 medical, I won’t be able to transfer my medical certification to another country. Additionally, I’m hesitant to retake the CAD test, as 5.8 is quite close to the failing threshold.

Is it correct that the color assessment at City University in London does not get recorded? Can you take the test multiple times if something goes wrong?

That’s why I’m asking if anyone here has been in a similar situation. I’ve also considered obtaining a UK CAA Class 1 medical and submitting the CAD result, which would allow me to continue flying in Europe. A Canadian or FAA medical could also be an option, as they offer tests I can pass. Interestingly, I passed both the Ishihara test and the anomaloscope when getting my boating license, even though the requirements are supposedly stricter.

Another question: what happens if I obtain a medical certificate from a non-EASA Balkan country, and that country later joins the European Union? Would I have grandfather rights in that case?

Additionally, I’m looking for addresses of any lantern test facilities (Spectrolux, Holmes-Wright, Beynes) and details on how these tests are conducted.

I would really appreciate any help.

Hi folks, I'm looking for info about anyone in the UK who has successfully obtained a CPL without a night rating.

A few years ago I asked the Med department if a 'day-only' Class 1 existed, to which they said yes.

I then asked FCL if a 'day-only' CPL existed, to which they said: Fast forward a couple of years, after I'd held my Class 1 with VCL and NCAT limitations. FCL then said no:

So basically, FCL sent me out to get my Class 1, and I renewed it 2 or 3 times to the tune of about £1,000, before they turned around and said, actually yeah you can't do that.

But, now I am reading about people who did obtain a day-only CPL (albeit many moons ago). Surely if the precedent exists and they're still operating on those licences..?

Did you receive any feedback on this? I too also failed the CAD test on red-green, with results of around 14, <6 is considered a pass. I discussed with the doctor and said results can vary, but that if I were to retake the test, I should expect the same outcome. The CAA also averages your CAD test results.

I failed the CAD test with an AME in London with a score of about 12.35 red/green. Then took it again at London city and passed it with 11.80. As of course they are being averaged out. I took it again at city to get the average below 12, feeling more relaxed, more rested and more familiar with the whole process and I scored BELOW 10 the third time. Please don't give up. That was all back in 2016. I have been flying commercially since 2019.

Anyone read the new update on 'Vision'? www. easa.europa.eu/en/research-projects/vision

Seeing what they put as 'essential' under the 'List of flight crew tasks' part makes me feel they think you're basically as useful as a blind person if you're CVD. Doesn't fill me with any hope of seeing any positive changes at the end of this.

I'm new here, but just like a lot of ya'll I had my dream stopped dead in its tracks when the ishihara plates came out. Found out at the medical I was colorblind, just a little over three weeks before I was to start school. I scored one point over the limit on the CAD test, and that was it, no other tests allowed here in Norway.

Join ECDAA. We are all over the 'vision' project and preparing to blow holes in it.

That's good to hear. I hope EASA will be as cooperative as the CASA were down in Australia last year when they updated their tests for color vision.

One of the guys (an engineer) I worked with managed to memorise the plates so he was magically cured of his colour blindness 😁 It's quite easy to learn the plates, you just need to remember for example as a colour blind person you see a 6 but in fact you know it should an 8 so even if the plates are presented randomly you could pass.

Hi all

First time poster and just hoping to get an opinion on my CAD test results and if it's worth taking any further tests. This test was performed by an AME based in the UK:

Blue/Yellow: 0.68
Red/Green: 7.34 (pass < 6)

Was disappointed to fail of course, and I did ask the AME if it was worth retesting, but I was told not to bother as I am moderate CVD, and the result was not close enough to warrant any retesting.

I have seen some comments on this forum around the CAD test at city University yielding slightly better results for people, so I'm looking into this... Not sure if anyone thinks it's worthwhile based on these results?

The pass for the red/green is <12

has something changed?

The limits are 6 for deutan and 12 for protan if I don't remember wrong. It's been some time since I read up on this so I could be wrong, but I do remember that EASA will average out your scores if you take the test multiple times...so you better focus up on the second attempt.

Thanks for the quick replies and yes I should've elaborated, limit is < 6 for deutan (which I am)

I'll look into city University but won't expect a miracle, thanks for the advice