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Old 26th March 2025 | 13:47
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UK CPL day only (Class 1 with VCL limitation)

Hi folks, I'm looking for info about anyone in the UK who has successfully obtained a CPL without a night rating.

A few years ago I asked the Med department if a 'day-only' Class 1 existed, to which they said yes.

I then asked FCL if a 'day-only' CPL existed, to which they said:
You would need to gain a UK Part Med Class 1 medical , subject to no other underlying medical conditions coming to light and the medical only having the day flying only limitation, this will then be reviewed by our case review team. It may then be possible to train for a CPL licence issue, without a night rating, restricted to day flying only. You would still need to meet the hours requirements for the CPL, but would not be required to undertake any of the night flying requirements.

I would be grateful if you can confirm when you have gained a Class 1 medical to enable this to be reviewed further.
Fast forward a couple of years, after I'd held my Class 1 with VCL and NCAT limitations. FCL then said no:

The Night Rating is an integral part of licences for Commercial Air Transport, be it at Commercial Pilot or Airline Transport Pilots licensing levels. Your Class 1 Medical will exclude you from Commercial Air Transport activities and will restrict you to Day Visual Flight Rule only.

The legislation requires that for both Commercial Pilot or Airline Transport Pilots licensing, that the applicant must complete the Night Rating as part of the required training.
So basically, FCL sent me out to get my Class 1, and I renewed it 2 or 3 times to the tune of about £1,000, before they turned around and said, actually yeah you can't do that.

But, now I am reading about people who did obtain a day-only CPL (albeit many moons ago). Surely if the precedent exists and they're still operating on those licences..?
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