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Kero145 24th Mar 2014 12:31

Flydubai??????
Are u sure that Flydubai is going to pick up Ab initio from Cadet and ATP pool??
Where did you get this nice info??

Bloated Stomach 24th Mar 2014 12:44


Flydubai??????
Are u sure that Flydubai is going to pick up Ab initio from Cadet and ATP pool??
Where did you get this nice info??

flydubai will probably consider pilots from the ATP database. Nothing is concrete at the moment because the CAE are trying to offer their ridiculous type rating option.

Anything I will write on this forum will be straight from the horse's mouth.

Kero145 24th Mar 2014 12:56

@ Bloated Stomach
I saw the "famous" program between CAE and Flydubai!!!
I already asked CTC Wings ARL about their connections with Flydubai and Cadet/ATP. They tell me that there is nothing for the time but they are in negotiation with them.
CTC already asses pilots for Flydubai… So why not.
It will be nice

go around flaps15 24th Mar 2014 15:50

Monarch took a number of ATP pilots in the last two years. That is a fact.

Vipersrt10 24th Mar 2014 16:02

You're right go around flaps15, I heard the exact same thing

Kero145 24th Mar 2014 16:16

One of my friend (ATP) get a job by Thomson and it was in March 2012!!!
From my part it's the only ATP who get a job since a while!
I have finished the AQC in October 2012.

John Dexter 24th Mar 2014 16:24

@ PLINKY DEL MAYO


Quote:
At this moment in time easyJet, Monarch, Qatar & BA. The exception is that eJ will take the Take-Off pilots.
JD, although I would agree that the ATP scheme is as good as dead, that statement is total utter BS!
Please can you expand on why you believe this to be so?

Clearly myself and Bloated Stomach have similar understandings although perhaps just a little different. The eJ situation is a little more complex, at this moment in time eJ are not considering ATP's, they have no need for any further cadets past the Wings pool. Informally they have indicated that they may reconsider this if and when they need to and that is it. Quite different from comprehensively saying they will consider them. Even so the likelihood that they will even need to call on them is quite remote, there will be plenty of Wings cadets and experienced guys for their intake over the 2014 winter as it stands now.

flydubai I was told is a long term project and will unlikely produce anything until next year....after the ATP clear out.

Jetstar has many issues still to clear up. Mostly immigration among others so again a long shot and nothing to report. On top of this the numbers will be low and unlikely to require the ATP's. Next year they may require more...but the ATP pool will have been flushed by then.

Ryanair I've heard lots of ifs and buts and again nothing to report however my personal opinion is they are simply doing what they do best, use the competition to get a better deal from their current suppliers. If CAE call their bluff then they will use CTC otherwise it's unlikely to change. This and only if this happens might mean there is some movement in the ATP pool.

As for all the non-believers and the guys/gals with "shiny brochure" syndrome sitting in the ATP pool I suggest you forget about it and if something does amazingly turn up before getting kicked out then consider it a bonus!


go around flaps15 Monarch took a number of ATP pilots in the last two years. That is a fact.
And again for the hard of hearing AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME... If you don't believe me then ask LW directly. You can call ARL up at any time (however you are unlikely to catch him with all the travelling he does). Things change, get used to it! Also are you absolutely sure it is within the last 2 years, according to ARL, not me, there hasn't been any movement from the ATP pool for the last 2 years (except the Take-Off cadets), again call them and ask them.

Highland Kilt 25th Mar 2014 00:51

And again for the hard of hearing AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME... If you don't believe me then ask LW directly. You can call ARL up at any time (however you are unlikely to catch him with all the travelling he does).

Only a fool believes everything that CTC tells them...even you say that Dexter;)

centropy 25th Mar 2014 21:49

MON have not taken anyone officially from ATP since March TR 2012, shortly before last Thomson TR April 2012.

Rather than discussing who doesn't take ATP pilots, wouldn't the pertinent question be is?

Vipersrt10 6th May 2014 11:03

Rumour has it that ATP'ers have been emailed saying that they will be invited for easyjet selection. Anyone with more info?

landing lighter 7th May 2014 10:42

Not really true, on the latest ARL update there was a mention of the ATP database but nothing specific. According to the update, Easyjet and Flybe are expected to recruit from CTC in the following months, but no mention of the number of cadets they want; so they want cadets and atps to express their interest in the positions.
Now I believe that there are about 80 swimming in the cadet pool and 90 in the database. If there are enough cadets to fill Easyjet and Flybe positions, then there will be no movement in the database.
Also, the update says something about "specific requirements", but again they do not get into more detail. Does anyone know what these "specific requirements" are?

John Dexter 8th May 2014 09:20

I have seen the same update from ARL and so can confirm what landing lighter says. As for the special requirements last time round for eJ they were that the pilot trained at CTC either integrated or under their Take Off modular program. I see no reason why that will be changed other than there are not enough candidates.

Do not forget that these selections will be taking place between June and September so that's up to 5 months more CTC cadets going through at >20/month so most likely >160 cadets and I would guess 20+ Take Off pilots too. I would very much doubt that eJ and Flybe together would need more than that.

Although I think it is nice and right that CTC keep all the ATPers in the loop I can't help but think that is all it is. Unless something drastic changes in the coming months I fear early next year you will all simply be flushed out to make room for the next bunch ready to spend 10k on an empty promise.

Vipersrt10 8th May 2014 11:19

Ah John Dexter is back again :D Only commenting on the ATP topic. What happened mate, didn't you pass the selection? Is that why you're always bashing CTC and the ATP program?

Recruiter101 13th Jun 2014 07:03

Word Document
 
HI there,

Hope you are doing great! My name is Jivi and I will be attending the CTC Wings assessment sometime end of June. I will be grateful if you could share the word document which you have mentioned in your thread as part of my preparation for the assessment.

Thank you very much and I hope to hear from you soon!

Vipersrt10 21st Jul 2014 23:06

I heard that ATP pilots got invites for easyJet assesment!

tcm13 22nd Jul 2014 14:24

Assessment/Interview or do you mean placed into an easyJet hold pool?

UberPilot 24th Jul 2014 12:38

There were quite a few selected by eJ last summer for training last winter

centropy 26th Jul 2014 17:41

8 take-off cadets

tcm13 28th Jul 2014 10:03

The take off Cadets from this year?

pilotchute 10th Sep 2014 06:51

Take off, ATP's and Wings? What is all this nonsense? Is this just a lot of smoke and mirrors to get you to part with even more money?


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