CTC McAlpine/easyJet/JMC Sponsorship Selection
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You mean cp19? If only we knew gtp, if only. We are just waiting to see what happens, whether it be a new airline (Monarch or bmi or Virgin (i wish)) or easyjet. Just dont mention Ryanair anywhere around Mooney12
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Alex
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Phase 2 Assesment Day cancelled on the 31/08/2004...
Get this though, I'm now confirmed for Sept 14th, which means I have to change my flights - originally cost me €262 or about £170. Now I have to change the flight and pay €50 for the privilege. HOWEVER, and here's the kick in the stones, if I had originally been given the Phase 2 date of Sept 14th, I could book the whole flight for €53.90! Madness...
Anyway, you'll have that...remember:
Life goes on - until it stops.
Simon
Get this though, I'm now confirmed for Sept 14th, which means I have to change my flights - originally cost me €262 or about £170. Now I have to change the flight and pay €50 for the privilege. HOWEVER, and here's the kick in the stones, if I had originally been given the Phase 2 date of Sept 14th, I could book the whole flight for €53.90! Madness...
Anyway, you'll have that...remember:
Life goes on - until it stops.
Simon
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Hi to you all!
I just got here and there is so much information that I´m a bit lost,
I would like to know what you think are the chances of being unemployed after earning a T/R at CTC, and How much it would cost you to keep the T/R each year in case of unemployment.
I have asked them for some info but I am still waiting, So I would also be grateful if anyone couled answer some of my questions!
Aprox. how much money does it cost?
In case of being selected, how long does it take until you start the rating?
Do they only offer 737, or are there some other like A320?
Even if you have an MCC, do you still have to complete their adaptation course?
Lastly I´d like to know if I have any chances; I am 23, with Frozer JAR ATPL, 1000 PISTON out of which 800 ME.
If someone manages to answer my questions I´ll finaly be able to sleep well.. THANK YOU ALL
I just got here and there is so much information that I´m a bit lost,
I would like to know what you think are the chances of being unemployed after earning a T/R at CTC, and How much it would cost you to keep the T/R each year in case of unemployment.
I have asked them for some info but I am still waiting, So I would also be grateful if anyone couled answer some of my questions!
Aprox. how much money does it cost?
In case of being selected, how long does it take until you start the rating?
Do they only offer 737, or are there some other like A320?
Even if you have an MCC, do you still have to complete their adaptation course?
Lastly I´d like to know if I have any chances; I am 23, with Frozer JAR ATPL, 1000 PISTON out of which 800 ME.
If someone manages to answer my questions I´ll finaly be able to sleep well.. THANK YOU ALL
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Hi Cipri,
This thread is for the ab-nitio CTC cadet scheme - for those without CPL/fATPLs - think you're referring to the CTC ATP scheme for those already with a commercial licence. There should be threads about that scheme on the site. If not, it might be better to post a new topic?
All the best,
V1R
This thread is for the ab-nitio CTC cadet scheme - for those without CPL/fATPLs - think you're referring to the CTC ATP scheme for those already with a commercial licence. There should be threads about that scheme on the site. If not, it might be better to post a new topic?
All the best,
V1R
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Jagtechie,
Try the morrisby.com site. there's a few decent tests on that, link at top of this page.
You going to Bournemouth on Tuesday 15th or later down the line?
Good luck either way,
Simon.
Try the morrisby.com site. there's a few decent tests on that, link at top of this page.
You going to Bournemouth on Tuesday 15th or later down the line?
Good luck either way,
Simon.
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Yep. Phase 2 assessment on tuesday...not sure if there's many going from here but there's usually 12-20 from what I've heard from others been and gone.
Should be fun, I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway, don't be afraid to PM me if you want any more info and I'll do my best to help.
Simon.
Should be fun, I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway, don't be afraid to PM me if you want any more info and I'll do my best to help.
Simon.
Thanks Rod, I went down today. I agree that if you didn't wear a suit you would have looked a bit of an idiot. Not sure how it went, some of the tests are bloody hard and I'm not sure if my over strong point went down to well with the rest. Will find out very soon.
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The scheme has been renamed CTC Wings. They highlight more airlines, including Monarch, Britannia, First Choice, Channel Express.
Good news for the over 26s, the upper age limit is "must not be 30".
Also they say that 33% more capacity and that is likely to increase.
Sagey
Good news for the over 26s, the upper age limit is "must not be 30".
Also they say that 33% more capacity and that is likely to increase.
Sagey
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Phase 2 - 14/09/2004
Well, where to start.
Firstly, I'm very, very, ecstatically happy to report that I got through to Stage 3.
I won't go into too many details about the assessment day as most of the format has been described in previous posts. So, any newbees can do exactly what I did and read the whole thing!
However, there are a few VERY important points to note, points that were only finalised a few days before my Phase 2 assessment day on Tuesday, September 14th, 2004.
1. The scheme is now known as "The CTC Wings Scheme". McAlpine Aviation has been 100% bought out by CTC, so no longer have anything to do with it. I'm going to suggest to the moderators that we start a new thread as this one is quite dated in most parts and for any newbees, I think it'd be helpful for them and indeed everyone else, if we had up to date info and advice.
2. The initial training period has been revamped. After Stage 4, when the candidate is selected for training, each individual is analysed and their level of flying experience is assessed. PPL v No PPL for example.
CTC have decided, (sensibly) that those with flying experience would be wasting their time and CTC's time with training on aspects already covered in their PPL's and therefore neither party should incur the cost (investment for CTC/bond for the candidate) of doing the same thing over again.
So, CTC have announced that candidates with TEN HOURS OR LESS flying experience, go through a "Foundation" course. This entails training up to NZ PPL level for approx 12 weeks. THE COST OF THIS IS SEPERATE FROM THE BOND AND MUST BE PAID BY THE CANDIDATE AT A COST OF APPROX £3,000.
Now, personally, I'm gonna get extremely annoyed if people start arguing about this and saying "CTC are ripping us off blah-dee-blah-dee-blah". This is the way it is and you can't do anything about it so go sit in the corner and keep quiet.
3. The CTC-ATP scheme has merged with the CTC Wings Scheme in a number of ways.
Firstly, the age limit for entrants to the Wings scheme has increased to "30 years of age on the date of application". This is in line with the ATP scheme.
Also, the number of airlines CTC deal with in both aspects is increasing. easyJet and Thomas Cook are still there, as well as Britannia, Monarch, Channel Express and a few others I can't remember at this time. Two further "major carriers" are to be announced in the very near future.
4. Applications for the Wings Scheme should now be made at the following address - www.ctcaviation.com/wings and NOT www.ctc-mcalpine.com. It's nice to see this change because at the Stage 2 Assessment day yesterday, they were unaware applications were still done through the old site. There is a press release dated 14/09/2004 with the updated info announcement.
5. "If we (CTC) don't place you with an airline, we don't get paid". - Lee Woodward.
There are other little changes in regards to expenses in New Zealand etc but what I have above will suffice for the time being. I hope many of you find it useful.
Oh ya, and the success rate is "between 3-5%" with approx 4,000 applicants a year and growing.
There are about 90 pilots training at any one time, but the flight school in NZ is expanding, so by next year, capacity will be up to 120. That means up to 120 pilots a year will be qualifying from the scheme.
The source for all the above information was Mr. Lee Woodward in his presentation at the start of the Stage 2 assessment day. He joined CTC this year and is the Chief Training Pilot on the 757. He's taking CPxx to Brunei next week to start their training!
I just got in touch with Scroggs, the forum moderator, to see if we should start a new "CTC Wings Scheme" thread but until I hear back from him, we'll make do with this.
Regards,
Simon.
Firstly, I'm very, very, ecstatically happy to report that I got through to Stage 3.
I won't go into too many details about the assessment day as most of the format has been described in previous posts. So, any newbees can do exactly what I did and read the whole thing!
However, there are a few VERY important points to note, points that were only finalised a few days before my Phase 2 assessment day on Tuesday, September 14th, 2004.
1. The scheme is now known as "The CTC Wings Scheme". McAlpine Aviation has been 100% bought out by CTC, so no longer have anything to do with it. I'm going to suggest to the moderators that we start a new thread as this one is quite dated in most parts and for any newbees, I think it'd be helpful for them and indeed everyone else, if we had up to date info and advice.
2. The initial training period has been revamped. After Stage 4, when the candidate is selected for training, each individual is analysed and their level of flying experience is assessed. PPL v No PPL for example.
CTC have decided, (sensibly) that those with flying experience would be wasting their time and CTC's time with training on aspects already covered in their PPL's and therefore neither party should incur the cost (investment for CTC/bond for the candidate) of doing the same thing over again.
So, CTC have announced that candidates with TEN HOURS OR LESS flying experience, go through a "Foundation" course. This entails training up to NZ PPL level for approx 12 weeks. THE COST OF THIS IS SEPERATE FROM THE BOND AND MUST BE PAID BY THE CANDIDATE AT A COST OF APPROX £3,000.
Now, personally, I'm gonna get extremely annoyed if people start arguing about this and saying "CTC are ripping us off blah-dee-blah-dee-blah". This is the way it is and you can't do anything about it so go sit in the corner and keep quiet.
3. The CTC-ATP scheme has merged with the CTC Wings Scheme in a number of ways.
Firstly, the age limit for entrants to the Wings scheme has increased to "30 years of age on the date of application". This is in line with the ATP scheme.
Also, the number of airlines CTC deal with in both aspects is increasing. easyJet and Thomas Cook are still there, as well as Britannia, Monarch, Channel Express and a few others I can't remember at this time. Two further "major carriers" are to be announced in the very near future.
4. Applications for the Wings Scheme should now be made at the following address - www.ctcaviation.com/wings and NOT www.ctc-mcalpine.com. It's nice to see this change because at the Stage 2 Assessment day yesterday, they were unaware applications were still done through the old site. There is a press release dated 14/09/2004 with the updated info announcement.
5. "If we (CTC) don't place you with an airline, we don't get paid". - Lee Woodward.
There are other little changes in regards to expenses in New Zealand etc but what I have above will suffice for the time being. I hope many of you find it useful.
Oh ya, and the success rate is "between 3-5%" with approx 4,000 applicants a year and growing.
There are about 90 pilots training at any one time, but the flight school in NZ is expanding, so by next year, capacity will be up to 120. That means up to 120 pilots a year will be qualifying from the scheme.
The source for all the above information was Mr. Lee Woodward in his presentation at the start of the Stage 2 assessment day. He joined CTC this year and is the Chief Training Pilot on the 757. He's taking CPxx to Brunei next week to start their training!
I just got in touch with Scroggs, the forum moderator, to see if we should start a new "CTC Wings Scheme" thread but until I hear back from him, we'll make do with this.
Regards,
Simon.
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Well done Simon. Unfortunately Alexa came down ill in the night so couldnt go. She will be there next Tuesday though.
Interesting news about the course. Like Mooney, i want to know what the two new airlines are, mainly because i, like mooney, may be going to one of them.
About the 3k: Seems to me as if this is a way of CTC encouraging peeps to go and get some flying experience before applying. 3k seems an awful lot for 10 hours or whatever. I got a ppl for much less than that.
Meet and Greet tomorrow for cp19. Should be interesting.
Regards
Alex
Interesting news about the course. Like Mooney, i want to know what the two new airlines are, mainly because i, like mooney, may be going to one of them.
About the 3k: Seems to me as if this is a way of CTC encouraging peeps to go and get some flying experience before applying. 3k seems an awful lot for 10 hours or whatever. I got a ppl for much less than that.
Meet and Greet tomorrow for cp19. Should be interesting.
Regards
Alex
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I could kick myself
Hello guys,
I've been reading these forums (and this one in particular) with interest and I have a query. It's a "what's your personal opinion?" type question.
My situation is this:
I have good GCSEs (A & B grades) and 3 A Levels (back in the day
) in Physics (B), Mathematics (C) and General Studies (B). However, there is an unfortunate blip on my record. I've just graduated with an honours degree in Physics with Space Science and Technology from a good British university. The problem is that it's a Douglas Herd...a Third I messed up, I admit it. Moving on...!
I was needless to say a little gutted about this but that won't get me anywhere so I'm cracking on with things. I won't bore you all with the whole "I'm fascinated by aircraft, always have been, etc." as I'm sure we're all in agreement on this matter
I should note that I'm currently 22, took a year out after sixth form and have had good, varied and progressively responsible work experience. I am also spending the next 9 months or so gaining my PPL whilst working in a job where I have considerable responsibility and which is allowing me to develop all of the key skills a modern pilot trainee needs to show evidence of (esp. in sponsorship selection).
So here is my question: how do you think my chances of sponsorship have been affected? Now, of course, the answer is in the negative but what is your take on my chances bearing in mind I am investing in a PPL (so I don't end up in an interview situation explaining why I want to be a pilot, why I think I'd be good at it, etc...whilst never having taken the controls of a plane before). Incidentally, I have had a number of trial flights and start the PPL next month.
Any feedback appreciated. I just want to feel you guys out about this.
Thanks for any input,
onawingandaprayer61
P.P.S. Of course the anooying thing is that, without the dodgy degree class, I'd probably be roughly on par (on paper) with those applying straight from school!
P.S. Well done Simon mate...a ride in a sim beckons
I've been reading these forums (and this one in particular) with interest and I have a query. It's a "what's your personal opinion?" type question.
My situation is this:
I have good GCSEs (A & B grades) and 3 A Levels (back in the day
) in Physics (B), Mathematics (C) and General Studies (B). However, there is an unfortunate blip on my record. I've just graduated with an honours degree in Physics with Space Science and Technology from a good British university. The problem is that it's a Douglas Herd...a Third I messed up, I admit it. Moving on...!I was needless to say a little gutted about this but that won't get me anywhere so I'm cracking on with things. I won't bore you all with the whole "I'm fascinated by aircraft, always have been, etc." as I'm sure we're all in agreement on this matter
I should note that I'm currently 22, took a year out after sixth form and have had good, varied and progressively responsible work experience. I am also spending the next 9 months or so gaining my PPL whilst working in a job where I have considerable responsibility and which is allowing me to develop all of the key skills a modern pilot trainee needs to show evidence of (esp. in sponsorship selection).
So here is my question: how do you think my chances of sponsorship have been affected? Now, of course, the answer is in the negative but what is your take on my chances bearing in mind I am investing in a PPL (so I don't end up in an interview situation explaining why I want to be a pilot, why I think I'd be good at it, etc...whilst never having taken the controls of a plane before). Incidentally, I have had a number of trial flights and start the PPL next month.
Any feedback appreciated. I just want to feel you guys out about this.
Thanks for any input,
onawingandaprayer61
P.P.S. Of course the anooying thing is that, without the dodgy degree class, I'd probably be roughly on par (on paper) with those applying straight from school!
P.S. Well done Simon mate...a ride in a sim beckons
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most interesting...
Cheers for all the information Simon - most interesting for guys already training. If you could send me a pm outlining some of the changes to the expenses in NZ as well I'd be grateful.
Oh, and well done...
Oh, and well done...