When BA & QR sponsorship programs will re-open at CTC ?
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When BA & QR sponsorship programs will re-open at CTC ?
Hi everyone, first thing first i'm sorry if i made this thread at the wrong place, i'm new in here.
So the title says it all, does anyone know roughly when British Airways FPP or Qatar Airways MPL will re-open for applications at CTC ?
I've already ask CTC but they have no scheduled dates yet for those programs, but i wonder if someone here who work for either BA or QR and know something about this would be very helpful.
And also, based on your experience, which is better ? BA FPP or QR MPL ?
Any reply will be much appreciated
So the title says it all, does anyone know roughly when British Airways FPP or Qatar Airways MPL will re-open for applications at CTC ?
I've already ask CTC but they have no scheduled dates yet for those programs, but i wonder if someone here who work for either BA or QR and know something about this would be very helpful.
And also, based on your experience, which is better ? BA FPP or QR MPL ?
Any reply will be much appreciated
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Welcome to PPRUNE, this is the right place for this sort of question!
I can only speak about BA but....
I'm afraid that the direct answer to your question is no one knows, BA would only disclose that information to those closest, 99% of staff will have no better idea than anyone else!
We heard it from the horse's mouth from Lindsay Craig (Recruitment Manager) earlier in 2016 at BA that FPP will not be opening for the indefinite future. BA is going through a massive change at the moment with radical new strategies throughout the airline implemented from the top to try and make the airline supposedly more competitive, though not confirmed, with all of this and new recruitment management I'd be surprised if we see FPP return in exactly the same format that it has run in previous years. There's been a bigger focus on DEP recruitment recently too which lessens the need for cadet pilots.
The FPP has always been viewed as one of the top programmes that were provided by the three training providers CTC, FTE and CAE Oxford. BA was an ATPL rather than an MPL at Qatar, Qatar required you to live and work there and did not provide any sort of help with securing loans unlike BA. However, whatever information is on the CTC site is out of date until the programme starts to re-open again, earlier in the year Flybe MPL was said to include some sponsorship, as it did in the previous intake, it was only when the programme re-opened again for 2016 this vanished from sight...
A game of waiting and seeing. There is a dedicated forum to BA FPP here, which is quiet currently as there has been little/no news for months.
Welcome to PPRUNE, this is the right place for this sort of question!
I can only speak about BA but....
I'm afraid that the direct answer to your question is no one knows, BA would only disclose that information to those closest, 99% of staff will have no better idea than anyone else!
We heard it from the horse's mouth from Lindsay Craig (Recruitment Manager) earlier in 2016 at BA that FPP will not be opening for the indefinite future. BA is going through a massive change at the moment with radical new strategies throughout the airline implemented from the top to try and make the airline supposedly more competitive, though not confirmed, with all of this and new recruitment management I'd be surprised if we see FPP return in exactly the same format that it has run in previous years. There's been a bigger focus on DEP recruitment recently too which lessens the need for cadet pilots.
The FPP has always been viewed as one of the top programmes that were provided by the three training providers CTC, FTE and CAE Oxford. BA was an ATPL rather than an MPL at Qatar, Qatar required you to live and work there and did not provide any sort of help with securing loans unlike BA. However, whatever information is on the CTC site is out of date until the programme starts to re-open again, earlier in the year Flybe MPL was said to include some sponsorship, as it did in the previous intake, it was only when the programme re-opened again for 2016 this vanished from sight...
A game of waiting and seeing. There is a dedicated forum to BA FPP here, which is quiet currently as there has been little/no news for months.
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I'd be careful of CTC, some dodgy things are occurring at the moment from what I'm hearing from insider circles ... many airlines are also steering elsewhere with their cadet programmes some may have noticed ... there are reasons for it.
Though having said that, if you are on an airline scheme you should be safe, but all the while if you can apply elsewhere for anything it may be a wise decision ...
Though having said that, if you are on an airline scheme you should be safe, but all the while if you can apply elsewhere for anything it may be a wise decision ...
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Thanks for the information. So the point is, it'll be a very long time until they re-open their sponsorship programme ?
If that so, should i take the integrated atpl instead ?
Thanks for the information. So the point is, it'll be a very long time until they re-open their sponsorship programme ?
If that so, should i take the integrated atpl instead ?
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Again, I can't answer those questions for you, all I can say is indefinitely. No one knows when it will re-open.
As tech log said, if you are from Indonesia then you need to research it more as you will not be entitled to the same jobs as most who go through the big european schools, I can only talk for those in the EU/UK. It may even be worth looking at another school in Australia or at least closer to home who will cater better. CTC may have the largest marketing budget but it certainly isn't the only way to get flying, and may be one of the poorer ways in your circumstances!
Best of luck
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Unless you marry a European (as stated above) forget flying for any European airline.
Qatar is an option for you but not the wisest way to spend your money as an Indonesian (just saying).
If I were you I would look to train somewhere I would get excellent training for the best possible price. There are plenty of good quality flight schools, you just have to do your research (dont believe the CTC hype). Afterwards apply for jobs closer to home, susi air comes to mind, not gramorous but will earn you good experience and allow you to climb the greasy aviation career ladder.
Good luck, you'll need it.
Qatar is an option for you but not the wisest way to spend your money as an Indonesian (just saying).
If I were you I would look to train somewhere I would get excellent training for the best possible price. There are plenty of good quality flight schools, you just have to do your research (dont believe the CTC hype). Afterwards apply for jobs closer to home, susi air comes to mind, not gramorous but will earn you good experience and allow you to climb the greasy aviation career ladder.
Good luck, you'll need it.
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So when some one from Indonesia rings up CTC asking about trainings for an EASA license do they not have the courtesy to explain that you may well not be able to work in Europe and that the licences might well need converting to enable you to work in your own part of the world?
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So when some one from Indonesia rings up CTC asking about trainings for an EASA license do they not have the courtesy to explain that you may well not be able to work in Europe and that the licences might well need converting to enable you to work in your own part of the world?
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Unless you marry a European (as stated above) forget flying for any European airline.
Qatar is an option for you but not the wisest way to spend your money as an Indonesian (just saying).
If I were you I would look to train somewhere I would get excellent training for the best possible price. There are plenty of good quality flight schools, you just have to do your research (dont believe the CTC hype). Afterwards apply for jobs closer to home, susi air comes to mind, not glamorous but will earn you good experience and allow you to climb the greasy aviation career ladder.
Good luck, you'll need it.
Qatar is an option for you but not the wisest way to spend your money as an Indonesian (just saying).
If I were you I would look to train somewhere I would get excellent training for the best possible price. There are plenty of good quality flight schools, you just have to do your research (dont believe the CTC hype). Afterwards apply for jobs closer to home, susi air comes to mind, not glamorous but will earn you good experience and allow you to climb the greasy aviation career ladder.
Good luck, you'll need it.
But i heard if i join the Qatar MPL programme, it's a dead end, i cannot fly for other airlines unless i re-take the ground school and re-exam under EASA/FAA authorization.
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For the vast majority of programs you can't actually train on them unless you hold the unrestricted right to live, work and study in the UK and EEA. Qatar may well be one of the only exceptions to that. In that sense, the selection team would most likely screen that out. On calling CTC they may not know where you're originally from or need to query it if you've only asked them about when BA or QA re-opens. :-)
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Thanks for your advice.
But i heard if i join the Qatar MPL programme, it's a dead end, i cannot fly for other airlines unless i re-take the ground school and re-exam under EASA/FAA authorization.
But i heard if i join the Qatar MPL programme, it's a dead end, i cannot fly for other airlines unless i re-take the ground school and re-exam under EASA/FAA authorization.
You can apply to the Qatar Airways MPL and if extremely lucky get a place on the course and graduate. You have to sign a 5 year bond I believe.