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What's a troll?
The irony of course it that there really are pilots like you out there! Real ones that is, not merely people poling pixels on a liquid crystal panorama.
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Logitech.
You weren't convincing when you started and you're not fooling anyone now. I thought you'd at least had the decency to back off when we pinged you at the beginning but you're the sort of loathsome creature who thinks it funny to bait those seeking work at a time when our industry (not yours) is in trouble. Corsair's got you nailed as a Microsoft pilot and you're too dumb to carry this off. What do Logitech make? Keyboards, mice........................ and joysticks. You were blown the day you registered.
You're pathetic. Clearly jealous of those who have made the grade you sit at your mock-up (desk) looking for ways to put down those who have achieved what you cannot. You fail, in many ways. Now take your envious, pathetic little self away from here. The grown-ups are talking and it's past your bedtime.
You weren't convincing when you started and you're not fooling anyone now. I thought you'd at least had the decency to back off when we pinged you at the beginning but you're the sort of loathsome creature who thinks it funny to bait those seeking work at a time when our industry (not yours) is in trouble. Corsair's got you nailed as a Microsoft pilot and you're too dumb to carry this off. What do Logitech make? Keyboards, mice........................ and joysticks. You were blown the day you registered.
You're pathetic. Clearly jealous of those who have made the grade you sit at your mock-up (desk) looking for ways to put down those who have achieved what you cannot. You fail, in many ways. Now take your envious, pathetic little self away from here. The grown-ups are talking and it's past your bedtime.
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I respect you for admitting your ego is directing you rather than your enthusiasm, since many would not be so gracious to admit that. Flying a jet is a job and I can assure you it is not sexy or glamorous but like any flying job it is great since at the end of the day it allows one to fly. Flying a turboprop can be just as rewarding and fun and sometimes more so. If turboprop pilots were paid the same as Jet guys, I guess many would opt to fly a turboprop since one could have more fun when flying for the same salary!
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You have all said this or something similar:
"Flying a jet is more money"
So why wouldn't I look at the jets with envy and want to fly/operate (whatever) one as I have bills and a loan like everyone else.
"Flying a jet is more money"
So why wouldn't I look at the jets with envy and want to fly/operate (whatever) one as I have bills and a loan like everyone else.
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I am not interested in giving you a hard time or anything.
I am genuinely interested if you are telling the truth. Could you elaborate a little on your current situation.Aircraft type, location, where you trained etc.
I am genuinely interested if you are telling the truth. Could you elaborate a little on your current situation.Aircraft type, location, where you trained etc.
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debts.....thats why
Logitech....
you say you want to fly Jets....and why not eh, yes they pay more money
BUT you started the thread concerning the choices one makes and how better it may be to WAIT for that dream job.........
You cant sit around waiting in this industry, imagine stating in an interview that you passed on other jobs on smaller operations just because you wanted to wait for the opportunity for a shot with the big boys.....yikes
More to the point, like you, I have debts and couldnt/didnt take the SSTR option, although after 6 months of returning to the UK with experience in my pockets but no jobs forthcoming it was looking like I might have to bite the bullet and get further in debt but earn money sooner by going the route of a certain EI reg outfit.
A friend of mine did it, 18 months later he is happy as larry but will be paying off the TR for years whilst working under the same threat of redundancy as the rest of us.
I got lucky, its not the best job in the world, its not the career route I envisaged I would take, hell I wanted to fly TP's first!
BUT I am flying, its a good bird and I am gaining experience, more importantly being PAID.
Lot of casualties going on out there at the moment and you never know, I might be next in the coming months.
BUT I am flying.
You should remember that. Give it time, get the experience and opportunities will open up for you.
Be ever grateful for what you have got!
you say you want to fly Jets....and why not eh, yes they pay more money
BUT you started the thread concerning the choices one makes and how better it may be to WAIT for that dream job.........
You cant sit around waiting in this industry, imagine stating in an interview that you passed on other jobs on smaller operations just because you wanted to wait for the opportunity for a shot with the big boys.....yikes
More to the point, like you, I have debts and couldnt/didnt take the SSTR option, although after 6 months of returning to the UK with experience in my pockets but no jobs forthcoming it was looking like I might have to bite the bullet and get further in debt but earn money sooner by going the route of a certain EI reg outfit.
A friend of mine did it, 18 months later he is happy as larry but will be paying off the TR for years whilst working under the same threat of redundancy as the rest of us.
I got lucky, its not the best job in the world, its not the career route I envisaged I would take, hell I wanted to fly TP's first!
BUT I am flying, its a good bird and I am gaining experience, more importantly being PAID.
Lot of casualties going on out there at the moment and you never know, I might be next in the coming months.
BUT I am flying.
You should remember that. Give it time, get the experience and opportunities will open up for you.
Be ever grateful for what you have got!
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You have all said this or something similar:
"Flying a jet is more money"
So why wouldn't I look at the jets with envy and want to fly/operate (whatever) one as I have bills and a loan like everyone else.
"Flying a jet is more money"
So why wouldn't I look at the jets with envy and want to fly/operate (whatever) one as I have bills and a loan like everyone else.
So you got into flying for the money????????? What, are you mental? I can think of numerous jobs where the pay far exceeds what we get at any stage in our careers, that don't cost £70K ish to get into.
Your "bad decision" was to think that flying was a viable career for you.
Get this, flying can be a tough old business, often with poor job security and with reducing T's and C's, unless you get into an aircraft and absolutely love it, then after a few years, you'll hate it and turn into the usual, cynical old misery guts who comes onto Pprune and moans about naff all.
You'll be a pain to work with and your attitude will get noticed by management and you'll be chopped first if any redundancies happen.
We all fall in and out of love with flying sometimes, but to be as cynical as you are at this early stage in your career. Then frankly your chances of still being in the cockpit in 20 years time are absolutely naff all.
That was a good investment wasn't it.........................
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The problem with todays kids (myself included) is our access to instant gratification. We can basically do whatever, whenever, as long as we can pay for it, and most of us can. I'm reading a book about the subject, which has it all wound out properly.
I don't know the english names for the characters in this comic; but it's the one about the wolf trying to eat the three little piglets. All his life, the wolf has tried to make plans for capturing and eating the piglets, one more cunning than the other. It never works out, yet he still gets up every morning, refusing to be defeated.
Then one day, he manages to capture the three little piglets, and whilst the onions and carrots are simmering, the oldest of the three piglets asks the wolf; "what will you do tomorrow, after you've eaten us?". Baffeled by the question, the wolf looks away and the three little piglets manage to escape. The author implies that eating the piglets would make the wolfs very reason to get up in the morning go away.
Right now, that's actually the way I'm feeling. All my life I've been striving to achieve, and now, at 22, I have a stable job, lots of time off, a nice girlfriend, my own house, economy to do mostly as I please, and still I'm no happier than what I used to be when I had to sort everything out on a daily basis.
The problem with instant gratification is not solved by gaining more, but by looking forward to what you can dream of in the future. Sometimes you can have a good time on the steps of the ladder, the ladder may not only be a means to reach the top.
(How? I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out.)
The book, in norwegian, for those who are interested, is called "Storeulvsyndromet", by Thomas Hylland Eriksen.
I don't know the english names for the characters in this comic; but it's the one about the wolf trying to eat the three little piglets. All his life, the wolf has tried to make plans for capturing and eating the piglets, one more cunning than the other. It never works out, yet he still gets up every morning, refusing to be defeated.
Then one day, he manages to capture the three little piglets, and whilst the onions and carrots are simmering, the oldest of the three piglets asks the wolf; "what will you do tomorrow, after you've eaten us?". Baffeled by the question, the wolf looks away and the three little piglets manage to escape. The author implies that eating the piglets would make the wolfs very reason to get up in the morning go away.
Right now, that's actually the way I'm feeling. All my life I've been striving to achieve, and now, at 22, I have a stable job, lots of time off, a nice girlfriend, my own house, economy to do mostly as I please, and still I'm no happier than what I used to be when I had to sort everything out on a daily basis.
The problem with instant gratification is not solved by gaining more, but by looking forward to what you can dream of in the future. Sometimes you can have a good time on the steps of the ladder, the ladder may not only be a means to reach the top.
(How? I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out.)
The book, in norwegian, for those who are interested, is called "Storeulvsyndromet", by Thomas Hylland Eriksen.
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Assuming you are not a wind up merchant then the solution is simple.. piss off out of that job and make room for someone who wants to be there. wait for your jet job; if it comes great, if not then its up to you
If you are of similar character as myself don't settle for something you know you don't want to fly, wait for the opportunity to arise and fly something you have always wanted to fly.
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You ungrateful idiot. Most people on here would give their right arm for the opportunity you have.
You have a commercial job, you will be paid to fly that a/c and accrue hours at their expense not yours. This market is saturated with low houred guys clammering for their first job, more 200 hour guys than you can shake a ****ty stick at and you are dreaming about flying a jet. Trust me, flying a jet isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Pull your head out of your arse and get on with it. If not, send me the address as i know 10 blokes who'd do it!!!!!!
You have a commercial job, you will be paid to fly that a/c and accrue hours at their expense not yours. This market is saturated with low houred guys clammering for their first job, more 200 hour guys than you can shake a ****ty stick at and you are dreaming about flying a jet. Trust me, flying a jet isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Pull your head out of your arse and get on with it. If not, send me the address as i know 10 blokes who'd do it!!!!!!
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Well said Hi9h_Fly3r......
I suspect Mr Logitech invested the grand sum of £40 on his training via Microsoft Flight Sim and now has the nerve to come on here whinging t he's got a raw deal about how hard life is because he's not flying what he wants. i.e an actual aircraft rather than a desk!
I call Microsoft Troll. However, if on the off chance you are not a troll but are actually brave/stupid enough to come on here expecting to receive sympathy for what you obviously see as an inferior job then as rightly said above....feel free to hand in your notice, give me the contact details of your company and I'll apply for it.
I can't imagine that a professional pilot could really be so short sighted as to genuinely believe that he's unlucky because he isn't in a nice shiny jet. Give me strength!
Must be a troll....if not then I pray I never come across someone so moronic in my flying career again!!!
I suspect Mr Logitech invested the grand sum of £40 on his training via Microsoft Flight Sim and now has the nerve to come on here whinging t he's got a raw deal about how hard life is because he's not flying what he wants. i.e an actual aircraft rather than a desk!
I call Microsoft Troll. However, if on the off chance you are not a troll but are actually brave/stupid enough to come on here expecting to receive sympathy for what you obviously see as an inferior job then as rightly said above....feel free to hand in your notice, give me the contact details of your company and I'll apply for it.
I can't imagine that a professional pilot could really be so short sighted as to genuinely believe that he's unlucky because he isn't in a nice shiny jet. Give me strength!
Must be a troll....if not then I pray I never come across someone so moronic in my flying career again!!!
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