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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 00:10
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This has to be a wind up. Or maybe this guy is in a holding pool and is trying to get the competition ahead of him to turn down the job.....

Either way it has to be one of the most stupid statements i've ever seen on here.

Just in case anyone is in doubt, the golden rule is TAKE THE FIRST JOB YOU'RE OFFERED!!
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 00:44
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Gents. Don't feed the troll.

If he isn't a troll then he's a muppet of monumental proportions and definately in the wrong business.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 02:55
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I for one agree with Logitech.

I just yesterday dropped BA an e-mail, I want to start out on their A380s. I'd even be willing to be in the F/O seat
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 11:36
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It's how I feel, at least I know how I feel and I know what I want. Of course it would be easier for me if I felt like the majority of you but I'm afraid I do not.
Anyway, I passed the flight check on the a/c yesterday and I begin line training at the end of February.
But, thanks for the replys they made me think more clearly and I have a three year contract so it's not that long.

Logitech.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 14:17
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Seriously folks, don't take the bait. At times like this someone prepared to play troll on such a subject is the lowest of the low.
 
Old 23rd Jan 2009, 14:27
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I think its a way of checking the pulse and blood pressure of the poor unemployed folks like me....Making sure that we are still here.
We Are.
We maybe down, But not Dead!
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 18:13
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If this guy is telling the truth then his attitude is unfortunately shared by many young wannabees,blinded by marketing(on a cynical note job well done by the flight school marketing propagandists - laughing all the way to the bank)

read post #24
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 20:42
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I don't think the original poster is for real but then again, I know one integrated student who felt the same way when he "only" got a turboprop job with flybe straight after training.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 21:13
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This guy just made me so angry I had to step outside for awhile.

Seriously if this isnt a wind up I'd advise you not to go looking for sympathy.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 23:02
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How 'bout some IP tracking? We can go get him and beat him with turboprop blades
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 10:40
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Sadly,

he isnt the only fool to feel like this. When i did my first tr (after 12 months FI work, and 4 months airtaxi work) there was one guy who was straight out of training who used to go on and on about how glamorous flying should be (and how we should all wear hats - we dont)

he struggled alot during ground school, and line training. but before he got on line daddy paid of his bond and got him a job in asia flying a300's as a cruise pilot!

he had poor handling skills when he left, im scared to think what his flying will be like in two years time when they finally let him land a plane!

as for me, i love flying TP's, are sectors are anything from 12 minutes, to 2 hours 30 min - give me the 12 min sectors any day!
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 14:49
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He may or may not be a troll but people like him are not unique. In love the with 'airline pilot' idea. I may not be completely appreciative of my job and I do look on with envy when something paraffin burning and shiny passes above or below me. But the very idea that I would quit an actual flying job and sit at home waiting for the 'real' job to turn up is absurd.

I have come across this mentality a few times. Met a few new pilots who actually refused flying work because it's literally beneath them. Usually they're integrated graduates. This is not a dig at all integrated graduates. It's simply that that integrated training is basically sold as airline pilot training when it's simply pilot training. Some people buy into the whole sales pitch. 'Here I am in an airline pilot training school training to be an airline pilot'. So a mere turboprop or an old, slow basic aeroplane is not for them.

They come out of training expecting to be snapped up by some jet carrier. Essentially I blame the FTOs, they positively nurture that attitude from their advertising right through the training. It's not surprising then that many a naive young, newly hatched pilot, clutching a licence and ratings are dismayed that all is not as rose tinted as they were told.

It's a regular thing here on PPRuNe. Someone whinging that they left OAA/FTE/CABAIR two months ago, with first time passes and an average of 99.99% in their ATPLs having spent a small fortune on their training and nobody has offered them a job yet! Is life unfair or what? And that was during the 'good' times.

The poor little darlings. Life can be so cruel
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 14:57
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Yup INNflight,

I'm with you!

Let's beat thu shyt out of this ******!
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Old 25th Jan 2009, 11:33
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Cessnagirl

No, of course not. It's not the size that matters.
If only more women had that philosophy.

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how glamorous flying should be (and how we should all wear hats - we dont)
I wear a hat and let me tell you how glamorous i find it. Its a great way to keep my (balding) head warm and dry in the harsh scottish winter. I am thinking of lining it with fur and adding LED lights around the rim so I don't have to bother with a high-vis jacket. The chief pilot would be over the moon with that.
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 10:26
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The golden rule in this game is that you take the FIRST job that is offered. You will have far more stick and rudder fun in the aircraft you described than pushing buttons in a Boeing since hand flying is often frowned upon .Is it your enthusiasm for flying or your ego that is directing your career path?
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 11:30
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I won't lie to you, it's ego.
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 12:22
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Just for fun I'll assume this isn't a wind-up.

Anyone getting into flying because of their ego - rather than a love of flying - will discover very quickly that they're in the wrong career. Not the wrong aircraft.
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 13:28
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Mister Geezer

MG is right.

Some of the best times I have had flying is instructing on a summer day over the Sussex countryside with the windows open ALL THE WAY!!! (C152).

Then the fun of watching the apprehension/horror on peoples faces as they sit in their car and see the aforementioned aircraft on a glide approach trying to take the ariel of the roof of the aforementioned car in desperation to land somewhere near the numbers. Only one student managed it. Oh how we (not the people in the car) laughed.
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 14:56
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Fella, I'm still convinced you are a troll. Not many people are stupid enough to get into this business without a love of flying, but just in case you aren't........

Having flown jets, turboprops, helicopters, MEP, SEP of all kinds and variations then the ONLY reason for flying shiny jets is the wage packet.

I've seen pilots with this attitude many times. You'll be an ex-pilot in under 10 years. Guaranteed.

If you don't really want to do it and are flying to satiate your ego and lack of self confidence (egotists are usually overcompensating for a deep seated but often hidden lack of confidence) then when you do finally "get there" you'll get bored and realise that flying no longer has a draw.

I promise you one thing though. You'll be no loss.
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 16:04
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What's a troll?
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