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has anyone who already has their CPL gone to the first stage of the selection process with the intention that they don't actually have their CPL, and are willing to do all that training again??
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Hi Gemstone
I never knew that. I did apply so SAA though and got really far.
Have you made travel arrangements yet to get to Jhb or are you going to wait until the second email? Also maybe we can get the same flight and travel together? Just a thought. Let me know what you think. Cheers for now.
I never knew that. I did apply so SAA though and got really far.
Have you made travel arrangements yet to get to Jhb or are you going to wait until the second email? Also maybe we can get the same flight and travel together? Just a thought. Let me know what you think. Cheers for now.
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hey yeaa i got called for testing in sydney , but havent got a clarification reply from them yet on what the assesment involves and where the venue is located.
See u guys there!!
See u guys there!!
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hey yeaa i got called for testing in sydney , but havent got a clarification reply from them yet on what the assesment involves and where the venue is located.
are you from singapore ? ... if so .. in their email .. did they say "Your application states that you are in Australia." or Singapore?
cheers
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That's exactly why they aren't easier to go from one to another.
Airbus has made a product that if you were only in the cockpit of the A318,319,320,330,340 the first difference would be the amount of thrust levers and the second would be the overhead panels. Look at a 737NG panel compared to the 757 panel compared to the 747-400 panel compared to the 777 no commonality at all (like you mentioned). However from the A318 to the A340-600 the only difference are the expanded systems, # of thrust levers, and nowadays the new LCD screens.
Airbus has made a product that if you were only in the cockpit of the A318,319,320,330,340 the first difference would be the amount of thrust levers and the second would be the overhead panels. Look at a 737NG panel compared to the 757 panel compared to the 747-400 panel compared to the 777 no commonality at all (like you mentioned). However from the A318 to the A340-600 the only difference are the expanded systems, # of thrust levers, and nowadays the new LCD screens.
In addition besides the fact that everything on all the panels of airbus a/c stay in the same place regardless of model (unlike boeing). The flying stays the same, on T/O put the throttles full to ToGA and when your promted, (at a certain altitude, usually 1500 in the baby buses) bring the levers back a "click" to THR CLB and you have your auto throttle set for the whole flight until you take over to fly the approach.
Noise Abatement
Company policy
Terrain
EO performance
I will admit that the commonality on the airbus is a big plus. But as far as I am concern, most/all modern aircraft are flown the same way:
1.PROGRAM
2.SET
3.VERIFY
4.EXECUTE!!
5.MONITOR
Happy flying!
Bradda G
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The thing is, if you found the test easy, then chances are most people found it easy which once again, puts everyone (relatively speaking) on the same boat (score wise).
Therefore, this whole thing boils down to who worked the fastest and most accurate under the time pressure. Why i emphasize accuracy is because i noticed most questions had answers that you would get due to common errors, and when your racing through questions under that time pressure, you are prone to make those "stupid" common errors!
just my $.02
Therefore, this whole thing boils down to who worked the fastest and most accurate under the time pressure. Why i emphasize accuracy is because i noticed most questions had answers that you would get due to common errors, and when your racing through questions under that time pressure, you are prone to make those "stupid" common errors!
just my $.02
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I totally agree with Dubble,,, I mean completinh the tests on time is one thing and getting them right is another....
Secondly, since everyone (including me) think that the test were easy... so this means that they would definitely be looking for ppl who have achieved 90 and above percentile....
Btw, any thoughts on how many ppl they would select out of 35 candidates from NYC...
Secondly, since everyone (including me) think that the test were easy... so this means that they would definitely be looking for ppl who have achieved 90 and above percentile....
Btw, any thoughts on how many ppl they would select out of 35 candidates from NYC...
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Can't believe there were only 35 of you in the US - considering there were probably a couple hundred of us in the EU tests (over 3 days) - do you think it's just because flight training is relatively cheap in the US complared ot the EU or is there something else that is putting people off - not that less competition is horendous!!
I think lots of people over here here found the tests easy but were surprised by the results in the end, not that that will have any bearing on how you guys did mind you.
Best of luck to you all!
ps rubbish typign due to nearly slicign finger off with fdrill bit earlier
I think lots of people over here here found the tests easy but were surprised by the results in the end, not that that will have any bearing on how you guys did mind you.
Best of luck to you all!
ps rubbish typign due to nearly slicign finger off with fdrill bit earlier
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I think this is whats going to happen:
The capt. there said they need 50 ppl for next year.
I think he also said somthing about initially selecting a 100 people (for the 50 spots).
After Sydney and Johsburg testing, they will simply combine the list of ALL the candidates who wrote the test.
This "list" be in the order of highest score to lowest and just choose the top 100 or whatever number they want to initially select for the 50 spots next year.
Next, these 100 ppl (or how many ever for the 50 spots) will be flown to AD for the 2nd phase.
Then again comes the process of elimination, from the 100 candidates who completed phase 2, Etihad will put these 100 on a "list" in the order of best to worst scores of phase 2 and choose the top 50 on that list for the 50 spots next year.
Then comes the interview, which I believe he said if you made it to the interview, you're in! (unless you come to the interview nude or somthing
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My question is this:
In regards to the European candidates, they were only considered for the November course correct? The reason im asking is because why else would they have recieved invites to the 2nd round before the rest of the world got tested?
If this is the case, it will be very good for us who got tested in New York and the candidates getting tested in Sydney and johansburg because I think all of us combined, we are most likely less than 150 candidates which statistically speaking makes getting invites to the 2nd round much less competitive
ANy ideas??
The capt. there said they need 50 ppl for next year.
I think he also said somthing about initially selecting a 100 people (for the 50 spots).
After Sydney and Johsburg testing, they will simply combine the list of ALL the candidates who wrote the test.
This "list" be in the order of highest score to lowest and just choose the top 100 or whatever number they want to initially select for the 50 spots next year.
Next, these 100 ppl (or how many ever for the 50 spots) will be flown to AD for the 2nd phase.
Then again comes the process of elimination, from the 100 candidates who completed phase 2, Etihad will put these 100 on a "list" in the order of best to worst scores of phase 2 and choose the top 50 on that list for the 50 spots next year.
Then comes the interview, which I believe he said if you made it to the interview, you're in! (unless you come to the interview nude or somthing
)My question is this:
In regards to the European candidates, they were only considered for the November course correct? The reason im asking is because why else would they have recieved invites to the 2nd round before the rest of the world got tested?
If this is the case, it will be very good for us who got tested in New York and the candidates getting tested in Sydney and johansburg because I think all of us combined, we are most likely less than 150 candidates which statistically speaking makes getting invites to the 2nd round much less competitive
ANy ideas??
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I agree with Dubs! As far as the # of candidates that could be selected...
It all depends on how the North American assessment compares to our fellow prospective aviators in JNB and SYD.
Do you reckon that there will around 100 candidates combined (JFK, JNB, SYD)?
If that's the case, the our odds are really looking good!
Cheers
It all depends on how the North American assessment compares to our fellow prospective aviators in JNB and SYD.
Do you reckon that there will around 100 candidates combined (JFK, JNB, SYD)?
If that's the case, the our odds are really looking good!
Cheers
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Hey - wishful thinking I am afraid.
EU candidates have invites to August and November screenings in Abu Dhabi. August screening I assume so they can get some people for the limitesd spots left on the November course and teh November screening for next years courses.
That's what the email I've had leads me to believe anyway.
In reality time will tell I suppose.
Edited to add: actually not sure every EU candidate has had an invite yet - some people said earlier they hadn't I think.
EU candidates have invites to August and November screenings in Abu Dhabi. August screening I assume so they can get some people for the limitesd spots left on the November course and teh November screening for next years courses.
That's what the email I've had leads me to believe anyway.
In reality time will tell I suppose.
Edited to add: actually not sure every EU candidate has had an invite yet - some people said earlier they hadn't I think.
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Airbus Vs Boeing...
I agree with DenizDs view about the Airbus...but Tech & maintenance wise...I say Boeing (just left the 777-300ER today in hangar B DXB...reg. A6-EBJ), anyways...the 777 cockpit looks Luxurious while the Airbuses' looks Modern.
I heard from a pilot that the A320 has a higher ground effect when landing (lift reduces as it reaches the ground...negative vertical speed increases), while in the 737...The ground effect is lower...smoother landing, but sometimes you fight the 737 down when landing...
When going through my last assignment about the B777-300ER & A340-500 Auto Flight Control Systems...found out that the Boeings have smoother reactions to turbulences while Airbuses do have rigid reactions (certain popular cases)... & found out that the L1011s AFCS is better..., hope I helped (simply) enlighten other sides of this LONG comparison.
I heard from a pilot that the A320 has a higher ground effect when landing (lift reduces as it reaches the ground...negative vertical speed increases), while in the 737...The ground effect is lower...smoother landing, but sometimes you fight the 737 down when landing...
When going through my last assignment about the B777-300ER & A340-500 Auto Flight Control Systems...found out that the Boeings have smoother reactions to turbulences while Airbuses do have rigid reactions (certain popular cases)... & found out that the L1011s AFCS is better...
, hope I helped (simply) enlighten other sides of this LONG comparison.
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Another thing too is that there are people that won't show up and follow directions just like what happened here in NY. Thats what I'm counting on.
To Bradda G
Yes it is similar but it is not the same, the airbus automates everything unless the pilot selects to turn something OFF. So it the process may be the same but the way in which they are carried out is completely different.You put the throttles full forward in an A320 the aircraft knows you're either taking off or going around, and it will set the engines to the proper N1 speed and temps (in a boeing you put the throttles full forward then retard them to get to the proper %age and temp settings ), also the auto throttle is automatically engaged so there is no reaching up to flip a switch (unlike boeing which requires you to do so).
I think the only thing that remains the same throughout boeing aircraft is the location of the EFIS control panel
To Bradda G
Yes it is similar but it is not the same, the airbus automates everything unless the pilot selects to turn something OFF. So it the process may be the same but the way in which they are carried out is completely different.You put the throttles full forward in an A320 the aircraft knows you're either taking off or going around, and it will set the engines to the proper N1 speed and temps (in a boeing you put the throttles full forward then retard them to get to the proper %age and temp settings ), also the auto throttle is automatically engaged so there is no reaching up to flip a switch (unlike boeing which requires you to do so).
I think the only thing that remains the same throughout boeing aircraft is the location of the EFIS control panel
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The assesments for JNB and SYD would be held during 16-18 Sept.
Personally, I dont think that they would combine the results ...as they would have to inform us about our results no later than 08SEP.
Well it all depends on EY,, we are just assuming things...
Secondly, I dont think most of the ppl in US would go for this because of the pay unless if they have the passion of flying ... i mean think abt it , 40% from first year and so on....
lets consider, if they were paying $36000 annually ($3000 per month) and then 40% from that, would bring the annual pay to $21600...(a lot less than what majority makes)... money is certainly not an issue for me, but thats what i feel that ppl would be interested... i mean its a great program, but then some ppl would be concious about the wage...
Do correct me if i'm wrong on this one...
Finally, i was just shocked to see ppl wearing jeans and sneakers for the first session, it just looked that they were about to hit the club...
, that sincerely shows that they had no motivation at all ...
Personally, I dont think that they would combine the results ...as they would have to inform us about our results no later than 08SEP.
Well it all depends on EY,, we are just assuming things...
Secondly, I dont think most of the ppl in US would go for this because of the pay unless if they have the passion of flying ... i mean think abt it , 40% from first year and so on....
lets consider, if they were paying $36000 annually ($3000 per month) and then 40% from that, would bring the annual pay to $21600...(a lot less than what majority makes)... money is certainly not an issue for me, but thats what i feel that ppl would be interested... i mean its a great program, but then some ppl would be concious about the wage...
Do correct me if i'm wrong on this one...
Finally, i was just shocked to see ppl wearing jeans and sneakers for the first session, it just looked that they were about to hit the club...
, that sincerely shows that they had no motivation at all ...