Ryanair

[rwhites]

i take not many people have ever worked for an agency before. any company with a high turn over of staff they don't want the paper work to deal with so they get some one else to do it. it's easyer and cheaper.

[nuclear weapon]

Originally Posted by rwhites

i take not many people have ever worked for an agency before. any company with a high turn over of staff they don't want the paper work to deal with so they get some one else to do it. it's easyer and cheaper.

As I said in my previous post regarding the nhs. It is a recipe for future deficits. yes it is cheaper initially but what happens when 80% of your stafff decide to become agency. While I was with the nhs I used to get £11-£15/hr on sundays depending on where I worked but the agency was charging the hospital £23/hr talkless of airline captains. I wasn't even qualified (qualified nurses were getting £20/hr multiply that by 12hrs for a day.It is sad that that market forces has turned the industry I've aspired so much to join to this but then you have ups and downs.
Someone posted earlier that pilots are now taking second jobs I am hoping that was an exception and not becoming the norm.

[scroggs]

keep an eye on this thread. Whatever the outcome of the court cases in the offing, you may discover a little more of what Ryanair pilots think of their company.

Scroggs

[biggles34]

I am out money and Ideas

Hi Guys
I am new to pprune, I have over 800 hrs and still had no luck with any airline big or small.I was considering going back to the bank and try to get the money together, to join Ryan Air. After reading what some of you guys have been through, I have STOPPED in my tracks.

question is where do we go now???????

[dartagnan]

biggles,

continue to send CV...
apply to CTC, CAE and airlines.
one of these guys will contact you.

[High Wing Drifter]

Nuclear Weapon,

It is a recipe for future deficits. yes it is cheaper initially but what happens when 80% of your stafff decide to become agency. While I was with the nhs I used to get £11-£15/hr on sundays depending on where I worked but the agency was charging the hospital £23/hr

As a rule of thumb you can double your wage bill to establish the actual cost the company for your employment. If you are an employee your employer pays employers national insurance needs to manage your accounts, needs an HR department to subjugate you/manage you (delete as appropriate), etc, etc. As a contractor they have no such responsibilities, you or your agent are responsible for your training, your accounts, your tax...and the biggie is they can shrink or grow the workforce at will with no redundancy to worry about.

An effiicient organisation will see less benefit from contractors, the NHS...

Basically, there are medium and long term benefits too, I would have thought especially so in a non-knowledge based roles such as the flight deck.

[aircowboy]

Difference between JAR 25 pilot and Cadet when aplying for RYAN???

Could anyone explain me the difference when applying for RYAN between a JAR 25 expericence pilot and a Cadet?

Thanks in advance

[biggles34]

Dart

Thanks, thats what I am doing. I did apply to CTC but didn't get pass the application level. no feed back. I guess so many people apply that they simply can't give feed back to every one.

i thinks its a great shame that after all the hard work and expense, people like myself are yet again asked to come up with more money.

Its reached the stage that the banks are now saying no to anymore money, this is in my own case as I had to fund all of my training myself.

biggles

[potkettleblack]

Cadet = a frozen ATPL (meaning in real terms a CPL and IR) and at least 200 hours fixed wing according to their website

JAR25 = multi pilot transport category aircraft - to which Ryanair require you to have at least 1500 hours in order to qualify as a direct entry first officer

[aircowboy]

Thanks for your reply. I already knew the difference in terms of requirements but what I want to know is the diffrence in terms of the cost of the type rating, salaries, selection process, etc...

[RYR-738-JOCKEY]

Selection process - same, T/R - same, salaries - depending on contract, but generally speaking a JAR-25 candidate starts as a First Officer, and a cadet starts as a Second Officer (becoming a First Officer after a year).

[aircowboy]

What's the salary for a First Officer? and for a Second Officer?

Thanks again. I'm seriouslly considering applying for Ryanair as a JAR 25 pilot

[manuelvi]

Hi Guys.
I have just been contacted by CAE to confirm my availability to go throw their selections but i have a question.
The 23K and more for the TR are to be paid cash or we are talking about some kind of Bond?
thank you in advance to everybody
cheers

MV

[camprax]

I was contacted also but had to turn down the offer after research.The money for the type 25,000 euros you have to pay from your own pocket,no salary while doing the type training about 6 weeks I understand,then you have to pay for uniforms,ids,parking etc.It is alot of money for anyone to come with.I would love to fly the 738 but right now the grass looks greener on myside after fully researching what they offer you.Just my small opinion\
regards

[TolTol]

Type rating is €28,000 with CAE (incl. VAT). You have to pay for uniform. No requirement for ID over there. Parking is free.

[first_solo]

Is it true that from now every cadet gets a Brookfield contract and only gets paid the flown blockhours?

[wilcoluca]

Manuelvi,
when did you first apply?

[manuelvi]

Originally Posted by wilcoluca

Manuelvi,
when did you first apply?

Last june...
bye

[wilcoluca]

To both CAE and SAS?

I am asking this since I applied almost one year ago

[manuelvi]

Originally Posted by wilcoluca

To both CAE and SAS?

I am asking this since I applied almost one year ago

Yes dude i did it to both SAS and CAE and i was directly contacted by CAE yesterday.
You know, these guys are so fu**ing looking for money that they are able to tell a guy which is already rated to undergo again for the same training in order to get in..
I've seen strange things in my life but this is way out of my respect for the Human race.

Cheers

MV