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UPDATE 2-Ryanair pulls out of talks for 200 Boeing planes | Reuters
Ryanairs downfall is coming into full swing. It would be insignifcant for most airlines but then, as we know, this isn't your average airline. This is VERY significant. What is it you guys and girls about to do a TR are going to fly? You simply can't keep increasing pilots, not increase aircraft and expect for hours per month (when you are paid hourly) to not decrease.
WELL DONE BOEING.
What makes me laugh are the people who say that Ryanair don't make money out of these TRs. Have you not noticed the only airlines that are recruiting are PTF airlines. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Ryanairs downfall is coming into full swing. It would be insignifcant for most airlines but then, as we know, this isn't your average airline. This is VERY significant. What is it you guys and girls about to do a TR are going to fly? You simply can't keep increasing pilots, not increase aircraft and expect for hours per month (when you are paid hourly) to not decrease.
WELL DONE BOEING.
What makes me laugh are the people who say that Ryanair don't make money out of these TRs. Have you not noticed the only airlines that are recruiting are PTF airlines. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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there is still over 150 aircraft to arrive....thats a lot of first officers still required so how do you mean there will be nothing to fly?
I think you will find thats 112 over 3 years,but it is incredible expansion in such times, the above link does make for interesting reading. i think the expansion rate has started the shake MOL a little, in such tough times. Where the hell do you put so many aircraft in what is practically a worldwide recession(i realise some euro zone econmies are now technically expanding), with forecasts now of rising inflation. How do you get the yields....reduced rates for your contract pilots as this is the easiest thing to do with crew costs. Just look at easyjet!In saying that though i am pleased ezy have sowed expansion, its down to about 25 airbus in the next 3 years.Probably a much safer strategy, cash in the bank is probably king right now.Aviation has such a marked seasonal variation now too.Could be very interesting times for all ahead. Definitely not the time to be a contract F/O in my opinion.Hope ye have an understanding bank manager!!I think the SH1T is about to hit the fan
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But yet over 2 billion in cash reserves. The bubble of expansion will burst eventually. No dispute on that one. It will be 2012 at least before that happens. 4 new routes from Bournemouth, another aircraft gone into Glasgow, 38th new base in Malaga, 39th new base Faro, 3 new aircarft in alicante, 6 new routes Charleroi, 2 new routes Weeze. And we are sitting in the middle of a recession in the middle of winter. Whoever joins Ryanair now should have at least 5 years before god knows what happens. But then again you never really know in this fickle, ruthless, unpredictable, industry. Fickle I do not think Ryanair are(not at the moment anyway). Ruthless and unpredictable in business terms? Most definitely.
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But dont ryr have to pay for those 112 737 yet. i do remember reading somewhere that ryr actually have a net debt of a little over 100 million.its one thing opening bases and new routes, its another thing putting bums on seats and making money. Just ask aer lingus at gatwick, their loads are crap.
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I agree blackred. But at the moment, (moment) being the operative word their getting bums on seats. But for how long? We could argue on that one all day mate. Who knows?
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Oh i know, its going to be carnage i think at both ezy and ryr.I think its not the time to be a contract f/o
.so does that mean ryr will scale back recruitment?Easyjet now reckon they need 200 f/os.....strange that now that they have started to charge for a type rating.!!Very little commands,low attrition rates and only 6 new aircrft this year but 200 f/os........haha
.so does that mean ryr will scale back recruitment?Easyjet now reckon they need 200 f/os.....strange that now that they have started to charge for a type rating.!!Very little commands,low attrition rates and only 6 new aircrft this year but 200 f/os........haha
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Im sure they will adjust their recruitment plans accordingly even though its a good little fundraiser.
They cancelled all TRs last autumn and started them again in March/April. Despite popular belief they are not the recruitment behemoth thats very much popularised on here.
Although at the end of the day as Blackred rightfully says its about putting bums on seats, they are very aggressively sewing up the market by opening bases here there and everywhere.
I think it will be the end of 2010 whether it will be seen if it has payed off. Its a wee bit premature of the beak to be jumping predicting the end of the world for all FR FO's.
Its not like this deal fall through was highly unexpected, the warning signs have been around for a least a month. There was no way Boeing would do a deal just like 2001, which MOL was pressing for.
They cancelled all TRs last autumn and started them again in March/April. Despite popular belief they are not the recruitment behemoth thats very much popularised on here.
Although at the end of the day as Blackred rightfully says its about putting bums on seats, they are very aggressively sewing up the market by opening bases here there and everywhere.
I think it will be the end of 2010 whether it will be seen if it has payed off. Its a wee bit premature of the beak to be jumping predicting the end of the world for all FR FO's.
Its not like this deal fall through was highly unexpected, the warning signs have been around for a least a month. There was no way Boeing would do a deal just like 2001, which MOL was pressing for.
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I just wonder have ezy and ryr taking this lost cost thing as far as is can go in europe.between ezy and ryr they have to find a home for 150 aircraft over the next 3 years that sounds like an awful lot on a continent not in the best economic state.most major european cities now have a low cost airline serving their airport. Like i said i would be getting more than a little anxious if i was a BRK/CTC F/o.Where will all this expansion happen
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Absolutely.
Hence the aggressive approach to bases, 2 announced less than 24 hours apart. Possible 40th on the way(any bets for LGW).
Talk of expansion into Latvia, Estonia etc. Where next russia?
Remember that FR has the ability to undercut other airlines in just about every area, all about price for pax unfortunately these days.
Massively risky of course, although as i said earlier it will take a good year before we start to see results(both positive or negative). The summers are where it counts now, FR and EZY both realise that they cant make money in the winter.
Just seemed a bit silly from the usual suspects to be claiming that this is the end.
Hence the aggressive approach to bases, 2 announced less than 24 hours apart. Possible 40th on the way(any bets for LGW).
Talk of expansion into Latvia, Estonia etc. Where next russia?
Remember that FR has the ability to undercut other airlines in just about every area, all about price for pax unfortunately these days.
Massively risky of course, although as i said earlier it will take a good year before we start to see results(both positive or negative). The summers are where it counts now, FR and EZY both realise that they cant make money in the winter.
Just seemed a bit silly from the usual suspects to be claiming that this is the end.
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i think strong odds on gatwick,im not sure about russia.too much corruption for ryr i would have thought.but latvia and all those former russian states very likely.but like you said it will probably take 12 to 18 months before we see what exactly happens.my money is on a ryr that has over stretched itself.we shall see
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Just to make the point clear about the fact that Fr is getting money for the self sponsored TR...well...let's just say that by bought aircraft they received 10 free type rating...It's mean they have bought 250 A/C to date so it's about 2500 free type rating...it's about 70.000.000 Euro direct in the pocket for FR...I guess a lot of company would love to receive so much money by hiring people.
And for the next base my guess is PMI (Palma) to put Air Berlin out of business;-)
And for the next base my guess is PMI (Palma) to put Air Berlin out of business;-)
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Hi folks, just back from a 5 day trip to sunny LA, apologies again for my demeaning tone in earlier posts. Read through them all and realised what a nasty barsteward I sounded. I'm not really like that in real life but these are anonymous forums so can vent anger un-noticed.
Can't see Russia being a starter for FR, pax have to apply months ahead for travel visas so the hop on the plane for a weekend trip will be out the window.
Can't see Russia being a starter for FR, pax have to apply months ahead for travel visas so the hop on the plane for a weekend trip will be out the window.
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A little xmas present for all those that keep telling me ryr are the only gig in town......and to the best of my knowledge they bond rather than charge for TR. also you might get a proper contract....imagine that.there are at least two operators offering or about to offer somthing similiar and in the eu.
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Hi Guys,
I applied online 1 year ago (nov 2008) at CAE and Oxford Aviation Academy. I've got 1400 hours but no TP and JAR25. Is anybody who apply late 2008 has got an interview? Could I have a chance to take an interview next year?
Appreciate any response,
Many thanks,
Boogi
I applied online 1 year ago (nov 2008) at CAE and Oxford Aviation Academy. I've got 1400 hours but no TP and JAR25. Is anybody who apply late 2008 has got an interview? Could I have a chance to take an interview next year?
Appreciate any response,
Many thanks,
Boogi
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Yeah sorry about that, I couldn't control myself.
As an aside, here is a Christmas present for you - I actually think Ryanair is the scheme to do at the moment. It's the best of a bad bunch. You've converted me.
As an aside, here is a Christmas present for you - I actually think Ryanair is the scheme to do at the moment. It's the best of a bad bunch. You've converted me.