Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)
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When the assessments are being run it usually compromises of two interview days per week. 8 cadets interviewed and sim checked per day. I have heard of success rate as low as 2 or 3 cadets per 16 assessed at times. And then theres paying for the type rating if successful. Dont know which is harder? Getting an assessment , passing an assessment or paying for the rating? Tough times is putting it mildly.
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Be under no false pretensions about the selection procedure.
People will and do get turfed very often. More often than not its those who feel that Ryanair is a somewhat wooden spoon airline and only begrudgingly applied when they realised that they wern't going to be headhunted by BA upon finishing at oxford etc.....
People will and do get turfed very often. More often than not its those who feel that Ryanair is a somewhat wooden spoon airline and only begrudgingly applied when they realised that they wern't going to be headhunted by BA upon finishing at oxford etc.....
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People will and do get turfed very often
To take it one step further they could select really rubbish candidates for the TR knowing full well they won't make it but they still get the £30k. Then again that would be immoral.
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Smith then again most that go through the type rating get through it. So what a load of nonsense that is. Airbusfreak no predicament here.
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Dont know which is harder? Getting an assessment , passing an assessment or paying for the rating?
Listen guys I have now realised that the way aviation is going has changed forever and for everybody. The t&c's will never be the same and being treated like a human being is over now. It is creeping into every company. Normally the salary paid to people was proportional to the skills and education one possesed, nowadays pay is inversely proportional to the number of qualified people.
The problem with flying is that in the initial stages it is like a sport or hobby, its like a bug that grips you and keeps pushing you forward to do more and more. People like me advocate not to do the training now, wait for the green shoots of recovery before starting training, however if that bug keeps eating away inside you its hard to say no. Its like someone saying to me not to play golf for two years until the recession ends, I just don't think I could do it.
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The cynics amongst us could say that this is part of the MOL business plan in that he gets the ££££'s for the assesment.
To take it one step further they could select really rubbish candidates for the TR knowing full well they won't make it but they still get the £30k. Then again that would be immoral.
To take it one step further they could select really rubbish candidates for the TR knowing full well they won't make it but they still get the £30k. Then again that would be immoral.
To date in east midlands anyways, no cadet has failed the TR. They would be shooting themselves in the foot, before long people would find out about this and not sign up.
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Skyhigh86, Are you really sure about that? A pretty reliable source at RYR (cockpit crew, currently employed by them) mentioned one guy on his TR course failing his base check twice, which led to him being kicked out.
Can people please post here when they applied to RYR and how long they had to wait for the call. Thanks a lot.
Can people please post here when they applied to RYR and how long they had to wait for the call. Thanks a lot.
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Skyhigh86, Are you really sure about that? A pretty reliable source at RYR (cockpit crew, currently employed by them) mentioned one guy on his TR course failing his base check twice, which led to him being kicked out.
To date in east midlands anyways, no cadet has failed the TR
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If there is a test or assessment then you can fail it. Be that the interview, sim ride, ground school, LPC, base check or line training/check.
Not many do fail, and rightly so becasue it shows the assessment process works. When I joined FR 3 years ago there was 1 failure in my group and 1 on the group behind.
It does happen in any airline. FR are very fair if someone struggles. If you need extra sim time you can have it but you pay for it. If you need to do the circuits again then FR pays for it. If you need extra line training FR pays for it.
Paying for a TR in no way guarantees you'll pass. You'll most likely pass. You need to put the effort in though.
Out of interest, I came in as DEC from another airline. So far, I have received everything that was promised at interview, been treated reasonably in general, found the aircraft and crews and routes to be great and engineering is top notch. No complaints so far.
At the moment FR have the opportunity to pick the best. So they will. It's a safer bet for them. After all, they have a business to run and no obligation to give anyone a job who cares to apply.
Not many do fail, and rightly so becasue it shows the assessment process works. When I joined FR 3 years ago there was 1 failure in my group and 1 on the group behind.
It does happen in any airline. FR are very fair if someone struggles. If you need extra sim time you can have it but you pay for it. If you need to do the circuits again then FR pays for it. If you need extra line training FR pays for it.
Paying for a TR in no way guarantees you'll pass. You'll most likely pass. You need to put the effort in though.
Out of interest, I came in as DEC from another airline. So far, I have received everything that was promised at interview, been treated reasonably in general, found the aircraft and crews and routes to be great and engineering is top notch. No complaints so far.
At the moment FR have the opportunity to pick the best. So they will. It's a safer bet for them. After all, they have a business to run and no obligation to give anyone a job who cares to apply.
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Likewise. Don't believe all the bulls--t you read about Ryanair on Pprune.
Make no mistake though, if a trainee cannot meet the standards required, even after being given extra training, they'll probably be chopped. That applies to Ryanair just the same as it applies to British Airways, the RAF or any other flying organization. If that comes as a shock to anyone trying to enter the industry then they need to have a word with themselves.
However, the training is excellent and I do not know of anyone who has been chopped, and the old rumour of people being sacked to make way for new trainees is just that - a rumour. I also happen to know how much the Sim Instructors and Training Captains get paid, and I wouldn't be so sure that the airline makes a profit on training.
It is most certainly not a case of anyone with a wodge of cash being able to buy a position - selection is very competitive, and RYR is in a position to pick and chose the most competent applicants. I too flew professionally before joining RYR and was impressed by the standards of the young guys who made it as FOs.
For those bemoaning declining terms & conditions then sure, being a contractor rather than an employee wouldn't be my choice, but RYR guys actually earn pretty good money. Sleeping in cars - err, whatever.
Make no mistake though, if a trainee cannot meet the standards required, even after being given extra training, they'll probably be chopped. That applies to Ryanair just the same as it applies to British Airways, the RAF or any other flying organization. If that comes as a shock to anyone trying to enter the industry then they need to have a word with themselves.
However, the training is excellent and I do not know of anyone who has been chopped, and the old rumour of people being sacked to make way for new trainees is just that - a rumour. I also happen to know how much the Sim Instructors and Training Captains get paid, and I wouldn't be so sure that the airline makes a profit on training.
It is most certainly not a case of anyone with a wodge of cash being able to buy a position - selection is very competitive, and RYR is in a position to pick and chose the most competent applicants. I too flew professionally before joining RYR and was impressed by the standards of the young guys who made it as FOs.
For those bemoaning declining terms & conditions then sure, being a contractor rather than an employee wouldn't be my choice, but RYR guys actually earn pretty good money. Sleeping in cars - err, whatever.
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SFI's on the Brookfield contract are on very good money per day. And the sim instructors that are captains on the Brookfield contract are 50 euros away from being twice what the SFI's are on. Let me assure you if you get instructing at FR the money is very very good.
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