Criminal Conviction A Problem?

[johnsmotor]

Sorry but have I missed something here? He didn't claim he was a drug smuggler, was caught on what was a very minor offence for which he received a conditional discharge. I'm not a criminal lawyer but i'm sure smugglers would receive much worse, the clue is in the punishment received.

As I posted earlier, about the same time scale ago I was convicted of a minor public disorder offence, and both my police PNC check and a Disclosure Scotland showed no offences of any kinds. Under the laws of the UK once a minor conviction is spent, it does not preclude you from holding a responsible job in aviation.

Alot of people make a silly mistake when they are young, but the majority mature and grow out of their childish whims. I recently secured my first job with just 270 hrs, RHS on jet, modular student with no industry contacts. I was a bit nervous when I first applied for my airside pass, but purely based on unfounded comments from PPRuNe "know it alls"

LewisA, get on with it, thankfully the majority of our society accept human err without the sort of pedantic unfounded response you have received.

Good luck!

[Wee Weasley Welshman]

Bringing back say an 8th of Cannabis resin from a weekend in Amsterdam might well be considered a minor offense and is typical of a youthful mistake. But it would still be drug smuggling.

Some minor offenses look worse than others to the 55yr old Telegraph reading airline interviewer..

In a tight labour market where new pilots with low hours are urgently in short supply such things would not matter much. But.

WWW

[GuyAK]

Hello can anyone help me here. I have a spent criminal conviction for assault when I was 16 (10 years ago). I have read your thread and it appears that as it 'spent' I don’t need to disclose it. So therefore I won’t have a problem getting an airside path. However, the rehabilitation of offenders act only applies to the UK. So how difficult would it be finding employment? For UK airliners I would not need to disclose it, but to a foreign carrier I would and what about visa issue when flying into places such as America etc.

Thanks for your help.

[AlpineSkier]

@GuyAK

One big thing there is that your employer can use this to dismiss you instantly if you don't disclose and they later find out.

[Vincent19]

Conviction for aviding military

Hi all

A hold EASA licence and am working in major EU airline.
Europe and NATO are now in tension with Belarus and Russia.

Since I served in military before (always regret that choice) I am in military reserve and in case of war I would be among first drafted to go to war.
Avoiding military is a criminal conviction.

What do you guys think, If I am convicted for avoiding military service, would I be fired from my current airline job or my licence could be revoked?

Thanks

[3Greens]

If you were convicted it would seriously impede your ability to hold an airside pass.
However, if war was to break out between Russia and. NATO, I doubt many of us would hold down a flying job in Europe anyway.

[Vincent19]

Criminal conviction for avoiding military service

Hi again
Same question, different geopolitical situation.

I am Estern European (have border with Russia) citizen.
I work as a pilot in major airline.

I had military experience which I regret having and now am in military reserve list who would be the first sent to frontlines in case Russia would attack my country.

Even though my country is NATO, with polytical weakness of the west, there are strong doubts that NATO might just leave us to avoid escalating into major cinflict with Russia. In that case is low chances of survival during war for fronline soldiers.

Avoiding military service during war time is criminal conviction.

What do you think, would European law allow
to prosecute me as refugee internationally or like issue arrest warrant after war is complete?

If convicted in such special circumpstances would I get to keep my airline pilot job as a refugee?

Thanks

[Bloated Stomach]

Why are you obliged to give your military service if you’re no longer part of the military?

[A320LGW]

Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach

Why are you obliged to give your military service if you’re no longer part of the military?

In some countries you never leave the military. You remain as a reservist for life, meaning mandatory callup if it came to it.

[Bloated Stomach]

Originally Posted by A320LGW

In some countries you never leave the military. You remain as a reservist for life, meaning mandatory callup if it came to it.

what a horrible situation to be in. I guess the only option would be to leave the country and declare yourself as an expat. I’m not sure if that would work but might be an area to look into.

[Kylie walker]

Originally Posted by dougyboy

Hi,
Hope someone here can help with this one.
I have been considering laying down the cash for an integrated ATPL, but was wondering if the fact that I have a criminal record would affect my chances of a job afterwards.
I have 2 convictions, both of which happened over 8 years ago.
Does the Rehabilitation of offenders act apply in this case (Spent conviction)?
Does anyone have any idea whether the job of pilot is currently exempted from the act (Like solicitors, traffic wardens etc.)? or whether spent convictions must be declared when applying for a job as pilot.
If not currently exempt, then what are the chances that this may happen in the future due to recent events.
What would the implications be if flying to visa destinations etc.?
Thanks

if it’s a spent conviction you don’t need to declare it. If it’s aviation relevant eg. An act of terrorism or aviation related, then it may be an issue.
I’m wondering the same thing as an AusCheck background check will show old charges due to a recent driving charge. It should be a spent convictions but you must have 10 years free of convictions or the time period starts all over again! Cabin crew is my dream job and I think I ruined my chances.
I’ve made it through to the last stage of onboarding and would be starting ground school training if I could pass the security checks.
I’m not holding my breath 😔

[Kylie walker]

Expat.

Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach

what a horrible situation to be in. I guess the only option would be to leave the country and declare yourself as an expat. I’m not sure if that would work but might be an area to look into.

I have thought about this option also, as my name is so common. I could easily say it’s someone with the same birth date. And provide a new address. But I’d prefer to be an honest person..