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What tomorrow? Finally a final announcement? Or just a (keep-everybody-every-time-on-hold-and-happy)rumour? This thread is becoming a Gabriel Marquez magic realistic soap: "The chronicle of death foretold" or "An announced final announcement", subtitle: "The mystery of a voluntarily returned licence to temporarily avoid an in depth overseas investigation and other theories".
In the mean time Icelandic, they also employed a very expensive volcanolagist, is flying MK' s routes, for ex. JNB - ZAZ, so I read.
Rumour has it that crew is now on water and bread and losing a lot of weight as to save more fuel in case of a fresh white wrapped Saudi Arabian Prince appears with a few spare bucks to restart the flying fish flower and money circus, efficiency efficiency... very very clever indeed.
In the mean time Icelandic, they also employed a very expensive volcanolagist, is flying MK' s routes, for ex. JNB - ZAZ, so I read.
Rumour has it that crew is now on water and bread and losing a lot of weight as to save more fuel in case of a fresh white wrapped Saudi Arabian Prince appears with a few spare bucks to restart the flying fish flower and money circus, efficiency efficiency... very very clever indeed.
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star trek episode 3 the final of final statements
if this company was an aircraft ,this holding fuel required is quite simply magical.they crashed long ago! the whole thing is a farce and all we are seeing are holograms,beam me up scottie! receiver on the starboard bow! scrape them off mike! i think it's dead mike! dead, mike! it's an airline mike ,not as you know it,not as you would know it!
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Don,t know how true this is but i have just heard through the grapevine that mk airlines have informed filton/airbus that mk airlines is officially no more and have gone out of business, had a call from someone who works onsite to let me know, because obviously mk haven,t told there staff so no change there then.
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Operating Licence
CAA Licencing Notices today states:
MK Airlines Limited - The Operating Licence has been voluntarily suspended with effect from 12 April 2010.
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MK Airlines Limited - The Operating Licence has been voluntarily suspended with effect from 12 April 2010.
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how is it that this long well established airline ends up in a heap like this? yes usually because its supporting the oppulent lifestyles of the ones at the top. Why not lookk at serious investors of the Branson-esque know how-to-run-an-airline-type instead of going east and getting burned
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I have no knowledge of MK airlines or how it was operated. However, if the international freight business is anything like domestic Australia then it would have been run on knife edge margins, clients whose only loyalty is to the cheapest price and absolutely no long term commitment.
That an independent operator is able to make a go of such a mess is a testament to good skills and fortune. I doubt that there was ever a lot of opulent lifestyle opportunities but then, as I said, I have no direct knowledge of the airline or its owner.
Good fortune to the staff in the future.
That an independent operator is able to make a go of such a mess is a testament to good skills and fortune. I doubt that there was ever a lot of opulent lifestyle opportunities but then, as I said, I have no direct knowledge of the airline or its owner.
Good fortune to the staff in the future.
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"I have no knowledge of MK airlines or how it was operated. However, if the international freight business is anything like domestic Australia then it would have been run on knife edge margins, clients whose only loyalty is to the cheapest price and absolutely no long term commitment.
That an independent operator is able to make a go of such a mess is a testament to good skills and fortune. I doubt that there was ever a lot of opulent lifestyle opportunities but then, as I said, I have no direct knowledge of the airline or its owner."
Plovett, unfortunately you are wrong in that assumption. The Managing Director lived an opulent lifestyle with a personal Robinson R44 to fly around in. The "investor" forced the company to purchase a Grumman Gulfstream G-1 and not one, but two 727's for his personal transport. Monies that would have paid crews and employees for months, pissed away. The staff and crews, many of whom are friends, took TWO pay reductions in order to make comfortable those who mismanaged.
I feel terrible for the crews, office staff and support personnel but believe that "management" reaped what they sowed. A sad day in British aviation.
That an independent operator is able to make a go of such a mess is a testament to good skills and fortune. I doubt that there was ever a lot of opulent lifestyle opportunities but then, as I said, I have no direct knowledge of the airline or its owner."
Plovett, unfortunately you are wrong in that assumption. The Managing Director lived an opulent lifestyle with a personal Robinson R44 to fly around in. The "investor" forced the company to purchase a Grumman Gulfstream G-1 and not one, but two 727's for his personal transport. Monies that would have paid crews and employees for months, pissed away. The staff and crews, many of whom are friends, took TWO pay reductions in order to make comfortable those who mismanaged.
I feel terrible for the crews, office staff and support personnel but believe that "management" reaped what they sowed. A sad day in British aviation.
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A G1 and two B727!
What was he doing, starting an aviation museum?
Thanks for that Lamb Shank, yes it would seem that some inappropriate decisions were taken at the upper level.
My only knowledge of the company is from the YouTube videos and it is a sorry day when crews (and the support staff) are shafted by management.
What was he doing, starting an aviation museum?
Thanks for that Lamb Shank, yes it would seem that some inappropriate decisions were taken at the upper level.
My only knowledge of the company is from the YouTube videos and it is a sorry day when crews (and the support staff) are shafted by management.
Perhaps their business model was past its useful life. Are the days of the cowboy (four major accidents and enough anecdotal evidence from other threads justify this description) freight operators drawing to a close.
Maybe the future of freight is with the likes of Cargolux and Aerologic. Well capitalized professionally run operations with modern fuel efficient aircraft as opposed to shoestring, rule benders with thirty year old junk.
Obviously with hindsight we can point to things which should have been done differently and the global financial crisis coming on top of record oil prices may have been the last straw. If the Halifax crash hadn't happened, if oil hadn't hit $140+, if Lehman Brothers hadn't collapsed, if B767 freighters had replaced the DC8s and B742s, who knows ?
Maybe the future of freight is with the likes of Cargolux and Aerologic. Well capitalized professionally run operations with modern fuel efficient aircraft as opposed to shoestring, rule benders with thirty year old junk.
Obviously with hindsight we can point to things which should have been done differently and the global financial crisis coming on top of record oil prices may have been the last straw. If the Halifax crash hadn't happened, if oil hadn't hit $140+, if Lehman Brothers hadn't collapsed, if B767 freighters had replaced the DC8s and B742s, who knows ?
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Metro Man - the future of airfreight with the 777F ? - if you can afford the $200 million price tag and make them pay then I agree. As to the 30 year junk.....what rubbish !Nothing wrong with 30+ year old B747F-200 - it all depends on how well they are maintained. Fuel is of course the issue. Do the maths. A well maintained B747F-200 $10 million for a good one versus $200 Million 777F. Similar payload. Even factoring in the extra bounces a 742F has to do in comparison and add the extra fuel burn.....a B742F will still pay its way and for a number of years to come especially in the current climate. AF could`nt - the 777F was dumped or they did not take delivery. Wake Up !
Nothing wrong with 30+ year old B747F-200 - it all depends on how well they are maintained.
Plenty of B744, B767, B757 and MD11 freighters in my part of the world. The older B742s and B727s, still a few around but definitely on their way out. Haven't seen a DC8 in years.
Airbus have brought out the A330 freighter. Perhaps the geriatric types will do for a few more years in Africa and South America.
Older 742s starting to be affected by noise regulations in Europe.
If I was looking for work at the moment I'd rather have a A320/330 or B738/777 on my licence than anything else.
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Oh and before you go on about me working for MK, let me put the record straight, I never worked for MK. Just know some of their crews and mechanics, great bunch of guys!
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Noise regulations affecting the 742's in what way? They are stageIII.....Even my 30+ year old 727 is stageIII....No noise problems