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weaselfeatures 30th Aug 2009 10:18

MK Airlines banned from movements Filton
 
Due to owing thousands in rent at Filton MK Airlines have been stopped from any movements until they pay up.
Is it not you do the decent thing MK, and pay up what you owe to the management at Filton Airport who have stood by you through the bad times or are you getting ready to scarper somewhere else and take advantage of another provider?

BoeingMEL 30th Aug 2009 16:17

If this is true..
 
..Filton management have at their disposal a number of legal remedies... the most effective of which is available when an MK aircraft is on the ground at Filton. (Clue: Chain,truck, nose-wheel etc).

altayaara 31st Aug 2009 12:02

It is all not worth, it will give Filton a huge amount of costs for courtaffairs, for a company that has barely 2 of its 9 aircrafts flying anymore.

The remaining frames can stand there for another 10 years ( as is the case here in Brasilia where 3 transbrasil 767 are parked up for more then 10 years now as well as some vasp frames)

And where are they going to sell these frames, nobody wants it anymore.

Even the 2 brandnew CargoB/NCA B747-400 are flown back into the desert in the US, one had 7 months duty, the other one 1,5 month, and are awaiting better times.

Now with only 2 frames left, one has to ask how all costs of parked aircrafts can be absorbed with a reduced revenue.

Lambrettaman 2nd Sep 2009 16:27

MK have taken a short term wet-lease of a B747-400F from World Airways and also have an MD11F (also from World) for a flight operating tomorrow night. World Airways would only operate with all the money paid in advance by MK for the estimated block hours etc so it would appear that MK can find the money when they want to.

Lamb Shank 3rd Sep 2009 14:19

Except when it comes to paying the crews!

jebelcat 4th Sep 2009 09:08

" MK for the estimated block hours etc so it would appear that MK can find the money when they want to. "


Economics girls.............Its all down to economics and survival mode....:rolleyes:

hydroplane 4th Sep 2009 11:46

Nice joke or MK survival strategy: one has a B742 approaching D-Check time => store it for free and get/buy/rent some ‘new’ old lady out of the mothballs who has more time to spare!?
By 2010 MK will haven 20 in store and one flying (maybe)?
Where are the B748’s Mike promised in 2005… or is he just always a big a joker?

Maybe the CargoB B-400's are now cheaper as a D-Check 200?
Its al economics of course... Healthy company MK!?

Time Traveller 4th Sep 2009 13:02

Great policy -

until every airfield you want to fly to tells you to get lost, for fear of being lumbered with some huge rust-bucket blocking up their plot.

altayaara 4th Sep 2009 14:12

in all case, if they use the cargo B planes, they will save 17-21 % on the fuel with an extra payload on top.

and the japanese will be happy their birds are flying again. Apparently these are not the only-400 freighters parked in the desert.

The Codfather 5th Sep 2009 12:19

Some of the parked Aircraft are only due C checks and a couple are due overdue AD's so probably cheaper to fix these than keep getting other old 747 and putting on Register?

And if they cant afford to fix a 200F they have no chance of affording the spares on a 400F! although they will save 30% crew costs instead of 20% but loose the best crewmember!

Besides Mike got you a 748 already, unfortunately it has HS instead of B in front of it!

hydroplane 5th Sep 2009 14:51

Jesus Codfather,
I gather it's even worse then. Acquiring MKJA is cheaper then a B-check? It makes one wonder in strange ways... are we missing something here? With the recent illegal landing in Lungi (West Africa/ Sierra Leone becoming a narco-area) etc... and MK being controlled by mysterious funds and mighty people operating against there will from doggy tax heavens etc... Is what left as purpose for MK… something like... AmericanMafia.com - Feature Articles 291???
Surely this can’t be the case! Or on the other hand one is puzzled… maybe Scotland Yard, MI5,6,7,9 and the lot, should start a deep throat investigation starting somewhere in East Sussex?

Or am I just hallucinating and seeing ghosts? An has MK (TAA) I the process of stopping freight business and started dealing in spare parts (see their website.. http://www.mkairlines.com/downloads/...Conditions.pdf)?

The Codfather 5th Sep 2009 15:55

Intresting Theory Hydroplane

Maybe the Corrosion that kept EA in the hangor for a year was a different kind of white powder!!

Hopefully not the case but it seems odd for a very Rich investor not to invest in the basics of maintenance and correct employment of staff!

a G1, 727 and Robinson as private toy although not worth much would have been better spent on wages and fixing planes.

Is there any news of the guys in Sierra Leone? hopefully home to tell the tale!

:8

Lambrettaman 7th Sep 2009 11:41

I know of one aircraft parts provider who supplied parts to MK and then took the financial hit when MK went into Administration. This reputable provider then agreed to supply parts to MK post-administration (grave mistake in my view) and guess what ? Yes, they are now owed money again and all efforts to get paid seem to be futile so far ! Slap a 'repairers lean' on MK maybe the answer. It's hard enough doing business in the current aviation market without not getting paid for what you actually do. :*

Chox Off 7th Sep 2009 19:38

lean - to incline or bend from a vertical position

lien - the legal claim of one person upon the property of another person to secure the payment of a debt or the satisfaction of an obligation.

just found the grammatical error amusing in this case.......

Metro man 8th Sep 2009 00:41

Prehaps they need to "lean" on MK in order to get paid. Plenty of less reputable debt collection agencies available for this kind of work.:E

BoeingMEL 8th Sep 2009 13:36

...nope...that wouldn't work either!
 
A repairer's LIEN relates to (now wait for this...) a REPAIR! That is to say, an act of rectification, repair, service, overhaul or modification during which one or more replacement or new parts/components were fitted... and the REPAIRER'S legal right to retain possession of the repaired vehicle/aircraft until such time as the outstanding charges are paid.

So how does a parts-supplier fall into that category then?

Just asking...:ugh: bm

weaselfeatures 9th Sep 2009 14:40

MK have paid up.......so the jungle drums are saying
 
Or at least most of what they owe at Filton.

I believe the Airport is now allowing movements.

We wait with baited breath....

hydroplane 9th Sep 2009 17:51

Free again
 
Free again:

In Sierra Leone, Mysterious Plane Pilots Freed
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Magistrate Stephen Conteh of Court No.1 in Freetown has acquitted and discharged the two pilot of a mysterious plane that recently landed at the Lungi International Airport without official authorization.
Edwin Hamilton and Bruce Younge were both discharged ON Monday 7th September 2009, after being fined the sum of US$20,000 (Twenty Thousand United States Dollars).
The two were ordered by the magistrate to submit their passports to the court until their fine obligation is fulfilled.
Magistrate Stephen Conteh however, warned that the passports of the pilots, plus all title deeds submitted to the court by the sureties, be immediately handed over to the rightful owners upon payment of the fine.
Reports have it that a plane that reportedly left Ndjamema in Chad landed in Sierra Leone on the night of Tuesday 25th August 2009 without official landing permit.
Before the plane could finally land, the pilot through the Air Traffic Control Tower allegedly informed that he had a landing permit, but failed to read out the serial number of the permit when asked to do so, on grounds that it was locked in his brief case.
He then reportedly proceeded to inform the control tower that he can’t go any further on grounds that the plane had run out of fuel. It was eventually allowed an emergency landing permit by the airport authorities.
The decision of the Magistrate to hand down the verdict on the accused person came in the wake of several adjournments requested and granted the defence counsel.
In Sierra Leone, Mysterious Plane Pilots Freed: Sierra Leone News


Hope for Bobby

hydroplane 10th Sep 2009 10:17

What a story...!! Pilot could't open his brief case, then lack of fuel.... and all this just for prospecting some new horses In Sierra Leone for Mike?

Anyone has the real story behind all this? It very quiet (by MK insiders) on this thread?

Tatenda Povo 13th Sep 2009 09:12

Disgusting state of affairs
 
I have been reading all the above with interest and feel that it is time that the Serious Fraud Squad had a long hard look at the affairs of Mike and MK.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/censored.gif
I believe that the crews once again haven't been paid !!!


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