Amerijet Strike!
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: miami, fl.
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Man on a mission?
Good to know that you scabs and scab supporters are reading pprune. I will pass it along to M.S. about your comments, you will probably see him when you vote for your union given contract. Funny, a guy does pro-bono work for you for five years in a very hostile work environment, and you got nothing good to say. Shame on you, what have you done to make this industry any better? Take your overage for scab work, vote in your contract, and use your new toilet. You weren't the guy that almost physically tossed out of the union hall, were you?
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: South of Disorder
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jetgo:
Lord knows, I've been willing and have urged others to cut you some slack for your posts. It's pretty clear from your most recent one that you haven't got the brains that God gave a box of animal crackers; you don't know when to close it off.
Every person here who supports those pilots has been turned off by your crap. I can guarantee you have no idea what my experience is or that of anyone here. To call me or anyone here a scab without first hand knowledge only proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Thankfully for all of us assembled; and the Amerijet pilots, you've proven that point for all of us.
Lord knows, I've been willing and have urged others to cut you some slack for your posts. It's pretty clear from your most recent one that you haven't got the brains that God gave a box of animal crackers; you don't know when to close it off.
Every person here who supports those pilots has been turned off by your crap. I can guarantee you have no idea what my experience is or that of anyone here. To call me or anyone here a scab without first hand knowledge only proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Thankfully for all of us assembled; and the Amerijet pilots, you've proven that point for all of us.
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: miami, fl.
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
sorry islamorada flyer
Sorry brother, thanks for the help. The person who threw those barbs is an AJT pilot. I got a call from a guy on the picket line, we realized that the person who said "highly paid construction worker" got that line from internal union communications. We know who this agitator is, he is a two time scab. We gave him every chance to change his ways. The guys who have sat for the last two weeks on the picket line have lost half a months salary, and were really damaged by twelve scabs (four crews and a compliant Canadian company). When is every pilot on this forum going to recognize that they are professional pilots, and deserve to be paid a living wage. These strike-breakers steal bread from rank and file workers. They deserve nothing. You want change? Do for yourselves. That is what these brave men and women did. Why do you disrespect them?
Islamorada flyer, I have just had it with these people that pontificate their views, but never show their face when it gets tough. Thanks for backing me and my bitter views towards this vile management. They deserve nothing less than the unemployment line, where they belong. Maybe ten years from now, we will be respected again as a group.
Islamorada flyer, I have just had it with these people that pontificate their views, but never show their face when it gets tough. Thanks for backing me and my bitter views towards this vile management. They deserve nothing less than the unemployment line, where they belong. Maybe ten years from now, we will be respected again as a group.
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Arizona USA
Posts: 8,571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Maybe ten years from now, we will be respected again as a group.
Specifically, what were the 'union' demands, and what were the companies counterpoints...and the final settlement?
Having said this, the AJT management seems to be...well...malcontent in their actions.
The general path to larger profits for the company begins by treating pilots...right, seems to me anyway.
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 518
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 411A
The general path to larger profits for the company begins by treating pilots...right, seems to me anyway.
Flight crews who are engaged in *positive* ways can make a hugely profitable operation.
But flight crews who are bitter and alienated can and WILL cost the operation thousands and thousands of dollars--especially if the aircraft is equipped with a fuel jettison mechanism.
Managers who regard their crews as something more than just another "cost unit" have learned this lesson and reap the rewards.
The rest, well, they usually hop like fleas from one mangy carcass to the other--parasites that they are.
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Miami
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
To The Enforcer
Nice try, Mike. I don't fly there, so your scab title is lost on me. People pass around info, in case you hadn't noticed.
Like everyone else, I agree that things need to change, but your ranting BS is not support. If you stopped threatening people for a few minutes, it might dawn on you that you're screwing your own team. The teamsters have spent years trying to move away from the exact image you conjure up.
If you want respect, stop acting like a pent-up wannabe bully. I bet you were paid just about what your "help" was worth.
Like everyone else, I agree that things need to change, but your ranting BS is not support. If you stopped threatening people for a few minutes, it might dawn on you that you're screwing your own team. The teamsters have spent years trying to move away from the exact image you conjure up.
If you want respect, stop acting like a pent-up wannabe bully. I bet you were paid just about what your "help" was worth.
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: miami, fl.
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Life would be a lot better without these trashbag airlines abusing everyone. You want to discuss this, call the union. They pay no one any wages for organizing pilots. Pilots do this pro bono. Better than being a suck for a terrible company that you support. No matter, you are well known in the biz. We won this fight. We will move on to make sure your ilk never will be employed in the USA. Mike does say hello, however, and hopes to meet you in the future.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: indian rocks beach, florida
Age: 72
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am an ABX pilot who has seen all of this since the beginning. It is hard for me to read posts that are negative of the striking workers for Amerijet. Most of us would not work under the conditions that they have endured. They have not asked for much of anything. Proudly, I have witnessed great assistance from various unions across the board. This outpouring of support has made me proud. I wish that all of our union leaders such as Hoffa had capitalized on the astounding support given to this group. As far as naming names. I have actual names directly from the manifest to go along with pictures of some Cargojet pilots. Congress should look at the actions of Cargojet in future discussions of cabotage. It got to the point where we named POS scabville due to the fact that so many were housed there. I will never know why another group elects to go on strike. However, I do know the meaning of a picket line. There is a lot of stuff that could have been done better, but that is always true. Unfortunately, we do not all have the expertise of a Bob Miller to lead us. The results are meaningful however. My thanks to all of the Amerijet strikers.
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: South of Disorder
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Contact Ratified!
The Amerijet pilots ratified their first contract today by a large margin. Congrats to a great group who stood up to the likes of David Bassett and never gave in to his threats and 
Hat's off to you! You showed the rest of airline labor how it's done.
Hat's off to you! You showed the rest of airline labor how it's done.
SkyGod
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Palm Coast, Florida, USA
Age: 67
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes
on
1 Post
It sure will be interesting to see details on the TA.
Heard the toilets will be re-installed and made operational..?
Hopefully pay and workrules will be improved and moved closer to industry standards, but not holding my breath.
I was invited to apply for a job with Amerijet back in October 2004 when they were part of a job-fair at Aeroservices in Miami but I declined for obvious reasons.
Hat off to guys that worked under those conditons then stood up and risked everything to get a better deal.
What is going to happen to the scabs now...?
Heard the toilets will be re-installed and made operational..?
Hopefully pay and workrules will be improved and moved closer to industry standards, but not holding my breath.
I was invited to apply for a job with Amerijet back in October 2004 when they were part of a job-fair at Aeroservices in Miami but I declined for obvious reasons.
Hat off to guys that worked under those conditons then stood up and risked everything to get a better deal.
What is going to happen to the scabs now...?
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UTC +8
Posts: 2,626
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Congratulations and good luck to all of you Teamsters for sticking together.
What drew world attention to your cause was the toilet issue. A most bizarre and heretofore unheard of phenomena in large transport category jets.
Keep those classic trimotors rolling.
What drew world attention to your cause was the toilet issue. A most bizarre and heretofore unheard of phenomena in large transport category jets.
Keep those classic trimotors rolling.
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: South of Disorder
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Back to Work Agreement
Good Afternoon All:
Your negotiating committee just concluded its conference call with Derry Huff, Isis Suria and Jim Walters (company attorney). We were able to satisfactorily address the open items of the CBA and the return to work issue.
The contract will be effective on October 1st however, those who are interested in flying prior to that date can do so by contacting crew scheduling via telephone or CrewNet (should be up and running later today) to bid open times as per the rules and regulations at Amerijet today. Per Derry you can bid the days that you want to fly and fly what you want per your seniority however, rest, etc. must be taken into account.
It has been clarified that, though the CBA is not effective until October 1, 2009, there will be no retribution of any of the strikers for we do have a “No Retribution LOA” and the company will not violate RLA and retaliate against its employees for union activity.
I do ask that those of you who need recurrent training contact scheduling as soon as possible to get scheduled for training prior to October 1, 2009, the new bid period.
The CBA will be signed shortly and all will receive it in booklet form for easy access. I am attaching a grievance form for your records in case you need one in the future. Please make sure to keep copies on hand at all times.
We shall be in touch soon. Please feel free to contact me should anything come up prior to my contacting you all.
In Solidarity,
Daisy Q. Gonzalez
Business Representative
Teamsters Local Union No. 769
Your negotiating committee just concluded its conference call with Derry Huff, Isis Suria and Jim Walters (company attorney). We were able to satisfactorily address the open items of the CBA and the return to work issue.
The contract will be effective on October 1st however, those who are interested in flying prior to that date can do so by contacting crew scheduling via telephone or CrewNet (should be up and running later today) to bid open times as per the rules and regulations at Amerijet today. Per Derry you can bid the days that you want to fly and fly what you want per your seniority however, rest, etc. must be taken into account.
It has been clarified that, though the CBA is not effective until October 1, 2009, there will be no retribution of any of the strikers for we do have a “No Retribution LOA” and the company will not violate RLA and retaliate against its employees for union activity.
I do ask that those of you who need recurrent training contact scheduling as soon as possible to get scheduled for training prior to October 1, 2009, the new bid period.
The CBA will be signed shortly and all will receive it in booklet form for easy access. I am attaching a grievance form for your records in case you need one in the future. Please make sure to keep copies on hand at all times.
We shall be in touch soon. Please feel free to contact me should anything come up prior to my contacting you all.
In Solidarity,
Daisy Q. Gonzalez
Business Representative
Teamsters Local Union No. 769
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Georgia
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You can't make this s*t up!
2009 and a man has to do without pay (and all the food,water and shelter that means) for 2 weeks to get a f*king toilet??
Glad there seems to be some kind of happy ending -as much as you can have a happy ending to a bedtime story that starts with;
Once upon a time, Captain Couldbeyou took out and opened his sh*tbag. It was a sunny day, and the morning rays warmed his back as he....
Glad there seems to be some kind of happy ending -as much as you can have a happy ending to a bedtime story that starts with;
Once upon a time, Captain Couldbeyou took out and opened his sh*tbag. It was a sunny day, and the morning rays warmed his back as he....
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've been holding off commenting on this subject until it was resolved.And thankfully at least some good results appear to have come out of the struggle.
However we in the rest of the world are getting very tired of US pilots carrying on about scabs when they have industrial problems and then charging in in similar situations when they have an opportunity for themselves.Reading through these posts the US attitude seems to be to ignore the comments and explanations on what is known in Australia as secondary boycotts.That is a situation where company A is on strike and company B is contracted to do company A's work. Here at least and apparently in Canada, a secondary boycott is illegal and company B's employees and their union have no choice. Secondly just because something is legal or illegal in the US has no bearing on citizens of other countries and that includes blacklists
Next ,some US pilots don't practice what you preach. Right now in Australia, Australian pilots jobs are at risk because an Australian major has wet leased a US based B767 freighter which has displaced an Australian aircraft.Why are you here US pilots? Your here because you and your company can make money and you don't give a damn about your actions on our pilots.Or maybe just like the Canadians you don't have a choice.Or maybe you do have a choice and you are here because its a pretty cruisy gig.
And as has been mentioned earlier on this thread what about 1989.Not only did US Airlines and pilots flock to this country to strikebreak. You then got residency and tried to tell us how to run our country, because that episode wasn't just a strike it was a political battle on wage setting. A few of you were very noisy politically, even heading up your own new pilots union.
Finally I'm very glad that the situation was resolved to some satisfaction of the Amerijet pilots.But be carefull who you accuse of being scabs.In my experience the largest source of pilots who will turn up on your doorstep at the first whiff of a strike or a contract that will undercut hard fought conditions comes from the good old USA.
Regards
Wunwing
However we in the rest of the world are getting very tired of US pilots carrying on about scabs when they have industrial problems and then charging in in similar situations when they have an opportunity for themselves.Reading through these posts the US attitude seems to be to ignore the comments and explanations on what is known in Australia as secondary boycotts.That is a situation where company A is on strike and company B is contracted to do company A's work. Here at least and apparently in Canada, a secondary boycott is illegal and company B's employees and their union have no choice. Secondly just because something is legal or illegal in the US has no bearing on citizens of other countries and that includes blacklists
Next ,some US pilots don't practice what you preach. Right now in Australia, Australian pilots jobs are at risk because an Australian major has wet leased a US based B767 freighter which has displaced an Australian aircraft.Why are you here US pilots? Your here because you and your company can make money and you don't give a damn about your actions on our pilots.Or maybe just like the Canadians you don't have a choice.Or maybe you do have a choice and you are here because its a pretty cruisy gig.
And as has been mentioned earlier on this thread what about 1989.Not only did US Airlines and pilots flock to this country to strikebreak. You then got residency and tried to tell us how to run our country, because that episode wasn't just a strike it was a political battle on wage setting. A few of you were very noisy politically, even heading up your own new pilots union.
Finally I'm very glad that the situation was resolved to some satisfaction of the Amerijet pilots.But be carefull who you accuse of being scabs.In my experience the largest source of pilots who will turn up on your doorstep at the first whiff of a strike or a contract that will undercut hard fought conditions comes from the good old USA.
Regards
Wunwing