Cl-44-o and swingtail merged
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From: Arizona USA
Guys think we shud get a B707 op going? Just done my B707/720 type tech .......Bit late by 40 years but........just need circuits now! Anyone want a 707 newbie? but with 727 command experience.
Noise would be a slight problem however, as Burbank Aeronautical has closed their doors so their stage 3 hush-kit is no longer available....so Africa here we come.
And why not, I ask.
The 707 was a fine reliable 'ole airplane, that in many cases demanded well developed flying skills to keep the blue side up....not like the wonderbusses of today where button-pushing has become the fashion.
I beg your pardon??
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From: Stockport MAN/EGCC
mark g leach
This is a civilised thread about two classic propliner aircraft which at the moment face an uncertain future. They are viewed with a great deal of affection by most if not all the people who have contributed positively to this thread.
Please explain or withdraw your rather bizarre postings.
Thank you.
Be lucky
David
This is a civilised thread about two classic propliner aircraft which at the moment face an uncertain future. They are viewed with a great deal of affection by most if not all the people who have contributed positively to this thread.
Please explain or withdraw your rather bizarre postings.
Thank you.
Be lucky
David
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From: Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning
And WHAT exactly are these three messages from "Mark" about ???
Rather strong language...
Rather strong language...
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And WHAT exactly are these three messages from "Mark" about ???
Rather strong language... I agree with Stratofreighter and in any case Mark, I think you're addressing your anger at the wrong person. Read the thread again.
Rather strong language...
I agree with Stratofreighter and in any case Mark, I think you're addressing your anger at the wrong person. Read the thread again.
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From: Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning
I did a Google search for Geoff Leach + Heavylift and found this article;
http://www.austlii.org/au/cases/cth/AATA/2007/1005.html
I wonder whether Mark G Leach and Geoff Leach are the same person as the Geoffrey Leach that is mentioned in this article? Or perhaps they are all different people who, by co-incidence, share the same surname?
http://www.austlii.org/au/cases/cth/AATA/2007/1005.html
I wonder whether Mark G Leach and Geoff Leach are the same person as the Geoffrey Leach that is mentioned in this article? Or perhaps they are all different people who, by co-incidence, share the same surname?
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From: sydney
wake up
Fellas this language is to make sure Macolm porter and Geoff Leach are not held responsible for what Heavylift Australia have created.
Geoff had contracts signed and sealed to operate the CL44...On arrival BOH he realised he had been shafted BY HIS OWN SON NICHOLAS WILLIAM LEACH AND ROD CRANE.....Their business ethic is deplorable here in Australia and must be stopped....Porrohman get your facts right before quoting lies.....
Geoff had contracts signed and sealed to operate the CL44...On arrival BOH he realised he had been shafted BY HIS OWN SON NICHOLAS WILLIAM LEACH AND ROD CRANE.....Their business ethic is deplorable here in Australia and must be stopped....Porrohman get your facts right before quoting lies.....
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From: Second star to the right, and straight on 'til morning
Mark, I think your anger should be directed at Heavy Cargo, not me .
It was Heavy Cargo that named names in relation to the missing logs.
.It was Heavy Cargo that named names in relation to the missing logs.
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From: sydney
ok apologies.
You were assuming Geoff Leach who happenes to be my old man is a thief.
Nick LEACH /Rod Crane are sick men in need of assistance.
They are pure evil and are currently being watched by the Australian Tax office and the AFP...
Nick LEACH /Rod Crane are sick men in need of assistance.
They are pure evil and are currently being watched by the Australian Tax office and the AFP...
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From: sydney
N Registration.
This CL 44 will continue to sit at BOH.There will be no N Registration.
Geoff Leach would have had it flying if they hadnt renegotitated in their own terms.
Again they broke a binding contract with Geoff which is currently being processed through govt system both here and in the UK.
kEEP WATCHIN"'
Geoff Leach would have had it flying if they hadnt renegotitated in their own terms.
Again they broke a binding contract with Geoff which is currently being processed through govt system both here and in the UK.
kEEP WATCHIN"'
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Belfast vs CL-44 Guppy
This CL 44 will continue to sit at BOH.There will be no N Registration.
Pity about Guppy.
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Quote from Stratofreighter
Sorry but I seriously doubt that the Americans will give her a C of A. The type has never been registered there and I don't think even preliminary work towards certification has been undertaken in the past. I can't see Bombardier ( Owners of Shorts) investing much support in the project.
I think her future lies on a register of convenience, albeit one with high enough standards of oversight and inspection to satisfy the Australian authorities.
Does anyone KNOW who holds the design authority for the Belfast these days?
Be lucky
David
Shorts Belfast at Southend that will apparently be getting an N-registration...
I think her future lies on a register of convenience, albeit one with high enough standards of oversight and inspection to satisfy the Australian authorities.
Does anyone KNOW who holds the design authority for the Belfast these days?
Be lucky
David
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From: Stockport MAN/EGCC
Quote from Porrohman
I believe one of the major outcomes of that report was the move from Sierra Leone (9L) to Philippines (RP) registration, see my comments in the post above
That report concerned incidents and deficiencies found in 2002/03. I am sure they must have cleaned up their operation since then or The Australian Government Authorities would have stopped all flying into or through their airspace IMHO.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David
I did a Google search for Geoff Leach + Heavylift and found this article;
http://www.austlii.org/au/cases/cth/AATA/2007/1005.html
http://www.austlii.org/au/cases/cth/AATA/2007/1005.html
.....................a register of convenience, albeit one with high enough standards of oversight and inspection to satisfy the Australian authorities.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David
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From: Deepest Essex.
Avgas old pal,
You may be right about the Guppy not being given a US registration in the future, but she certainly had one in the past.
When I flew the old girl she had N447T on the side.
Sad to see the way this is going, but the 44 was dangerous at the best of times. The expertise to maintain it, and people with the skill to operate it safely, let alone reliably have largely gone, and that would make flying this thing again one heck of a challenge.
The 44 was the most demanding aeroplane I ever flew, and made any other contemporary airliner a mere walk in the park. By comparison, today's fabulous modern airliners are for kids!
Tread carefully with this one, and good luck to all.
BSD.
You may be right about the Guppy not being given a US registration in the future, but she certainly had one in the past.
When I flew the old girl she had N447T on the side.
Sad to see the way this is going, but the 44 was dangerous at the best of times. The expertise to maintain it, and people with the skill to operate it safely, let alone reliably have largely gone, and that would make flying this thing again one heck of a challenge.
The 44 was the most demanding aeroplane I ever flew, and made any other contemporary airliner a mere walk in the park. By comparison, today's fabulous modern airliners are for kids!
Tread carefully with this one, and good luck to all.
BSD.