Emerald and the CAA
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its a shame for all the troops - like others have said this will turm out to be the best thing ever to happen to MOST of you.
lets hope aj and his mrs h. have the sense to realise its all the fault of the mobster (!) unless aj has turmed into an arsehole like mob but i doubt it.
question - personally id like to see mob rot in hell but am curious - is there anybody, ANYBODY at all who has a good word to say about him. aviation is a small world and i hope there's no place in it for him from now on.
lets hope aj and his mrs h. have the sense to realise its all the fault of the mobster (!) unless aj has turmed into an arsehole like mob but i doubt it.
question - personally id like to see mob rot in hell but am curious - is there anybody, ANYBODY at all who has a good word to say about him. aviation is a small world and i hope there's no place in it for him from now on.
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how can people be so sickening??
In all of the many years I have viewed MOB has never been anything other than dedicated and I support he will bring EA back for us, personal insults are sickening at a time like this - to him and his very beautiful young lady good luck and also to all of the others at EA!!!!!!!
OVER AND OUT !!!!
In all of the many years I have viewed MOB has never been anything other than dedicated and I support he will bring EA back for us, personal insults are sickening at a time like this - to him and his very beautiful young lady good luck and also to all of the others at EA!!!!!!!
OVER AND OUT !!!!
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I know for a fact that AJ was sent a letter circa 2-3 years ago from the then planning manager detailing explicitly how MOB was F**king the job up and also the way he treated his staff.
the letter made it to AJ he spoke to MOB, mob then came down on manager like a ton of bricks and said "no more letters to AJ...EVER"(shortened version expletives removed)
way i see it AJ knew...he didnt care as long as the job got done and he made money, he didnt care how.
the letter made it to AJ he spoke to MOB, mob then came down on manager like a ton of bricks and said "no more letters to AJ...EVER"(shortened version expletives removed)
way i see it AJ knew...he didnt care as long as the job got done and he made money, he didnt care how.
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Originally Posted by viewer
how can people be so sickening??
In all of the many years I have viewed MOB has never been anything other than dedicated and I support he will bring EA back for us, personal insults are sickening at a time like this - to him and his very beautiful young lady good luck and also to all of the others at EA!!!!!!!
OVER AND OUT !!!!
In all of the many years I have viewed MOB has never been anything other than dedicated and I support he will bring EA back for us, personal insults are sickening at a time like this - to him and his very beautiful young lady good luck and also to all of the others at EA!!!!!!!
OVER AND OUT !!!!
consistent....probably
consistently abusive
consistently obnoxious
consistently not allowing people to get on with there work
consistently overselling capacity for little gain
consistently placing aircrew in awkward situations
viewer...i thing a more apt login for yourself would be blinkered
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Getting out of Hand !!!!
Originally Posted by Possum3
Would deserves to be "Well Hung" Gimp kindly do us all a favour and please take some night school lessons on how to write and spell English.
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But we must remember that his brains must be lower in his body than the rest of ours ... that must be why he is well hung ..
Sorry ops gimps... sorry ... I stand corrected ..... well hung ops gimp.... but the only stuff you have to say is abuse about management .. over and over again .... you have got out .. others havent .... but have given 110 percent in helping out ops and crewing to keep contracts going ..... and before you got out I am sure you were one of the ones that rang up asking for last minute favours ..... give us all a break ... doesnt matter how much slagging off u do .. we are going to have to live with the consequences of what happens with this Company and I told u so and this has been a long time coming helps no one in this situation !
I am one of the long suffering supporting spouses that gets waken up in strange hours of the morning .. doesnt moan when family commitments get changed at the last minute ... and frankly am getting hacked off with some of the comments you are making .... I aplogise to the moderator for sounding off !!!!
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Come on guys and gals lets not let this just turn into a MOB bashing session. When I flew for Streamline/Emerald I never had anything to do with the bloke but I know that there's no smoke without fire. Anyhow, it's not getting anybody anywhere and what's done is done.
Is there anything good that can be salvaged from this mess? Afer all there is a neich out there for a 'cut price' freigh operation in the UK. Maybe Kevin is thinking of something. Lets hope so because of all his faults he was in my opinion a good businessman. The old Streamline wasn't the greatest employer but it did give a large number of pilots a foothold in the industry.
My condolancies go out to all the employees of Emerald. A sad episode indeed.
Is there anything good that can be salvaged from this mess? Afer all there is a neich out there for a 'cut price' freigh operation in the UK. Maybe Kevin is thinking of something. Lets hope so because of all his faults he was in my opinion a good businessman. The old Streamline wasn't the greatest employer but it did give a large number of pilots a foothold in the industry.
My condolancies go out to all the employees of Emerald. A sad episode indeed.
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i think its safe to say that Emerald as an airline is now gone along with the jobs.
I really hope it isnt but you have to be realistic,what company in there right mind is ever going to allow Emerald to freight for them again when they have been let down so badly with little to no warning of there ability to carry out the flying programme last thursday.
I really hope it isnt but you have to be realistic,what company in there right mind is ever going to allow Emerald to freight for them again when they have been let down so badly with little to no warning of there ability to carry out the flying programme last thursday.
ToneThe Wone,
Hear, hear for Kevin. My understanding is that he had some kind of clause in the Streamline sale that should things fail....
If he is still keen, lets hope so for all of you.
I might even be tempted back into the fold myself.
Mind you, a pulled AOC can always be re-instated. It's not necessarily the end of the world.
Good luck guys and girls.
Hear, hear for Kevin. My understanding is that he had some kind of clause in the Streamline sale that should things fail....
If he is still keen, lets hope so for all of you.
I might even be tempted back into the fold myself.
Mind you, a pulled AOC can always be re-instated. It's not necessarily the end of the world.
Good luck guys and girls.
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Gimp,
If things were as bad as you make them out to be then why on earth did you put up with it for 9 years, could it be that your lack of experience couldn't find you a proper job?
As soon as the sh1t started on my 2nd time around at Emerald, not from MOB who I hasten to add that I have never had a problem with, I promptly put my jacket on and went home, I found another job and started it within approximately 2 weeks?
The fool is the one who stays, the bigger fool is the one who stays for 9 years and then complains about it afterwards.
If things were as bad as you make them out to be then why on earth did you put up with it for 9 years, could it be that your lack of experience couldn't find you a proper job?
As soon as the sh1t started on my 2nd time around at Emerald, not from MOB who I hasten to add that I have never had a problem with, I promptly put my jacket on and went home, I found another job and started it within approximately 2 weeks?
The fool is the one who stays, the bigger fool is the one who stays for 9 years and then complains about it afterwards.
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I dont know ops gimp but maybe like me he enjoyed the work and thought emerald could be a good outfit.
notice my use of the word "could"
the grass roots staff were a fantastic bunch that came and went but it always seemed that the mis-management team was letting the side down miserably.
I dont know ops gimp but maybe like me he enjoyed the work and thought emerald could be a good outfit.
notice my use of the word "could"
the grass roots staff were a fantastic bunch that came and went but it always seemed that the mis-management team was letting the side down miserably.
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Strange that, I was in talks with Emerald myself about going back. Funny how you remember the good bits and forget about the bad. Aviation has a way of getting in the blood. No disrespect to the people still waiting to hear their fates.
Strange that, I was in talks with Emerald myself about going back. Funny how you remember the good bits and forget about the bad. Aviation has a way of getting in the blood. No disrespect to the people still waiting to hear their fates.
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Originally Posted by well hung ops gimp
You were no doubt living with your parents at the time so no commitments.I,m not complaining about 9 years service just the way i was treated as i said before its not until you escape you realise how bad you were treated
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If KH can put something together, it may well be one of the only hopes.
He's a hard business man, but seemed to know how to get the most out of people and let's face it, Streamline was a profitable concern until Emerald got hold of it.
How much did they pay? £5 mil? And in less than 4 years the fleet is half the size and falling apart and on the verge of disappearing for ever.
Could there be a white knight on the horizon? I don't know who'd they'd get who'd be brave (or daft) enough to take on the FOD's job. A poisioned chalice if there ever was and that's also dependant on the CAA approving the choice.
Does anyone know if Emerald are appealing the decision? I believe they have 14 days to do so.
He's a hard business man, but seemed to know how to get the most out of people and let's face it, Streamline was a profitable concern until Emerald got hold of it.
How much did they pay? £5 mil? And in less than 4 years the fleet is half the size and falling apart and on the verge of disappearing for ever.
Could there be a white knight on the horizon? I don't know who'd they'd get who'd be brave (or daft) enough to take on the FOD's job. A poisioned chalice if there ever was and that's also dependant on the CAA approving the choice.
Does anyone know if Emerald are appealing the decision? I believe they have 14 days to do so.