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Old 8th May 2006, 21:06
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Any word on the ATPs yet?
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Old 8th May 2006, 21:08
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i beleive 2 ATPs are currently at Blackpool
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Old 8th May 2006, 21:14
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The MRS freighter was positioned up to BLK last week.
Not sure what's covering the MRS route at the moment.
I'd guess there won't be much call for the two Pax machines now though
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Old 8th May 2006, 21:28
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We need rated&current ATP crew (also interested in TRI/TRE), starting June, Europe based.
PM me if you're interested
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Old 8th May 2006, 21:40
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It would be my belief that MOB, whilst doing it in his own unique style, was doing as instructed from higher up. To cut corners, to not spend money etc. and his head has merely rolled in an attempt to get the airline in the air again.

Why do I say this, well back in 1994/95 during a night shift I chatted, for quite some time, with AJ. At that time there were 5 Ops D/O's and that was it and one D/O got the grand sum of GBP1,000.00 per annum extra for doing the crewing, i.e. the airline's crewing dept. ran to a budget of GBP1,000.00 per annum.

AJ couldn't understand why he needed to 'waste' a grand a year for crewing when the airline operated to a regular schedule. Well that really said it all and thereafter MOB rejoined the company, at the time as Ops Director, and I remain under no disillusion regarding what his instruction would have been, 'I don't care how you achieve it but don't spend any money'.

I don't care how unpopular this may make me but 'Good Luck MOB'.
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Old 8th May 2006, 22:14
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Well said

Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg
I don't care how unpopular this may make me but 'Good Luck MOB'.
At last someone who has the guts to wish Mob good luck, something which im sure some people will not agree with but as im sure a few people will agree with he cant be as bad as people make out or surely he wouldnt be the Ceo of what has been and im sure will be once again be a sucessfull airline??????
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Old 8th May 2006, 22:39
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Let's have a look at this.

Took over as CEO (whatever sort of meaningless title it is) of a company that was making money.

A few years later that same company has botched up a new fleet acquisition so badly the banks come in.

A year later, the company has spent so much time worrying about the banks, it has forgotten about the CAA, oops......

A great track record I think you'll agree.

The ability to turn a profitable company into the present mess we see today, is not what I'd call competency, and at the end of the day as the boss it's all your fault.

I'm not going into character assassination again here, it's too easy and even if he were the nicest chap on the planet, the current debacle shows what a bad "leader" he really is.

Part of being a boss is ensuring you have the right tools, people and budget to do the job properly. Even if you have to fight for it from a board or an owner. As the "boss" you should be able to negotiate the necessary resources and you should NEVER let your company destroy itself in the way this has.
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Old 8th May 2006, 22:44
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say again

think that preety much sums it all up really
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Old 8th May 2006, 22:48
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Originally Posted by Say again s l o w l y
Let's have a look at this.
Took over as CEO (whatever sort of meaningless title it is) of a company that was making money.
A few years later that same company has botched up a new fleet acquisition so badly the banks come in.
A year later, the company has spent so much time worrying about the banks, it has forgotten about the CAA, oops......
A great track record I think you'll agree.
The ability to turn a profitable company into the present mess we see today, is not what I'd call competency, and at the end of the day as the boss it's all your fault.
I'm not going into character assassination again here, it's too easy and even if he were the nicest chap on the planet, the current debacle shows what a bad "leader" he really is.
Part of being a boss is ensuring you have the right tools, people and budget to do the job properly. Even if you have to fight for it from a board or an owner. As the "boss" you should be able to negotiate the necessary resources and you should NEVER let your company destroy itself in the way this has.
And, honestly speaking, who do you believe was pulling the purse strings?
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Old 8th May 2006, 22:50
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What was the standard phrase again?

oh yes. "We wish you good luck in you're future career"



Life is sweet
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Old 8th May 2006, 23:20
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AJ is probably as much to blame as anyone else, but never having met the chap I can't really comment on his role.

However, No matter how little money was available, there is no excuse for the sort of shenanigans that have been occuring. Emerald has always been penny shy and pound foolish. I couldn't believe the wasteage that went on every day, just because people were chasing their tails.

Add to that the unadulterated lies that were told to everyone. (Oh yes, we have got a dispensation on the use of hire cars before duty........) Then worrying about how much of a budget MOB had seems daft, since even if it'd been 10X whatever it was, then it would have been wasted anyway.

Tight purse strings or not, there was no need for the abuse and utter disregard for people that was shown on a daily basis, that is utterly unforgiveable. There is no justifying it no matter what pressure you are under.
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Old 8th May 2006, 23:58
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Thumbs up

Y'know what, Say Again? You're absolutely correct.

Now can we get down to the job in hand and see if we can't turn this round and have a much better airline out of it all? Could be done with the right management. Could make a shed load (or 748 load) of money if ran correctly.

Anything on co. email?
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Old 9th May 2006, 07:05
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No nothing on the Co email yet.
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Old 9th May 2006, 07:36
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Tight Purse Strings

I don't think you'll find a tighter purse than MOL's purse, and look at his outfit!

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Old 9th May 2006, 07:40
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Grrr facts?

so the mobster.... gone?? how do we know that?
anybody know anything at all that isnt speculation or wishful thinking?
and put your handbags away ladies !!!
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Old 9th May 2006, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Doctor Cruces
I don't think you'll find a tighter purse than MOL's purse, and look at his outfit!
Doc C
MOL operates a fleet of very modern jetliners.
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Old 9th May 2006, 11:20
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Still In The Dark

Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg
I think Trill Flyer might be suggesting that the CAA pull an AOC on the strength of what the CAA may read on Pprune.

These times they are a changing ..............
No. I think the CAA would rather deal with facts, they love the paperwork or lack of it or out of date stuff. They are also mindful of hidden agendas.

The company e-mail to serving Emerald employees is still quiet!

Still waiting. But being a mushroom what do you expect
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Old 9th May 2006, 11:46
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I'm an interested observer in all this, who's just happened on this thread today. Can I just recap so that I'm sure I've got the story straight (it's a very long thread!)

1. Emerald lost its AOC last week and all the aircraft are parked up at BLK
2. No-one knows if/when it will be allowed to fly again
3. The company hasn't formally ceased trading and staff have (eventually) been told that they will still be paid
4. However the Mobster has been sacked and AJ is running the show
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Old 9th May 2006, 11:56
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Originally Posted by Lord luvaduck
I'm an interested observer in all this, who's just happened on this thread today. Can I just recap so that I'm sure I've got the story straight (it's a very long thread!)

1. Emerald lost its AOC last week and all the aircraft are parked up at BLK
2. No-one knows if/when it will be allowed to fly again
3. The company hasn't formally ceased trading and staff have (eventually) been told that they will still be paid
4. However the Mobster has been sacked and AJ is running the show
And, by all accounts, the company email notification (keep people informed) system is sh1te
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Old 9th May 2006, 12:16
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Originally Posted by Lord luvaduck
Emerald lost its AOC last week and all the aircraft are parked up at BLK
Not quite. As of Sunday last:-

http://www.jethros.i12.com/fleets/fl...ld_airways.htm
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