ATP's For Emerald
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in-2-wind
Most of the guys in the pool have been used up. There is a rumour of another course soon. Be positive the chance of a job is good if you are up to scratch. There was a rumour of Emerald coughing up for the rating with a good bond to go with it. There are still a few people around who are prepaired to pay for it. Sorry I can't be more definate about it but good luck. Give them a ring and ask they won't bite your head off (well it depends on who answers the phone).
Most of the guys in the pool have been used up. There is a rumour of another course soon. Be positive the chance of a job is good if you are up to scratch. There was a rumour of Emerald coughing up for the rating with a good bond to go with it. There are still a few people around who are prepaired to pay for it. Sorry I can't be more definate about it but good luck. Give them a ring and ask they won't bite your head off (well it depends on who answers the phone).
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Having been viewing this post on occassions over recent weeks I have observed it has turned from a, what may be described as humorous regarding compant bikes etc. to a basic and public slating off of the employer that it seems, is currently paying off your mortgage, bank loan etc.
I have worked for Emerald on 2 occassions seperated by 6 years and no, I am not up MOB's backside although I have to say I have never had a problem with him. Emerald is a working class airline and MOB speaks from the hip and in my experience, some individuals like to hear life is perfect rather than hearing the facts of life as they really are.
Having originally worked for Emerald in the early days, no doubt some of you were wearing short trousers at the time, Emerald has proved to be successful and continues to pay individuals mortages and bank loans etc.
If life is that hard then it has become a pilots market at the moment thus if you don't like it, then pee off somewhere else where you believe you will be happy but no doubt you will soon thereafter be back here complaining about that company also.
Please care to explain what satisfaction you get from publicly slating your employer?
I could be the post office, courier or newspaper company reading this! What security do you believe you are offering for the protection of your mortgage or bank loan repayments?
I have worked for Emerald on 2 occassions seperated by 6 years and no, I am not up MOB's backside although I have to say I have never had a problem with him. Emerald is a working class airline and MOB speaks from the hip and in my experience, some individuals like to hear life is perfect rather than hearing the facts of life as they really are.
Having originally worked for Emerald in the early days, no doubt some of you were wearing short trousers at the time, Emerald has proved to be successful and continues to pay individuals mortages and bank loans etc.
If life is that hard then it has become a pilots market at the moment thus if you don't like it, then pee off somewhere else where you believe you will be happy but no doubt you will soon thereafter be back here complaining about that company also.
Please care to explain what satisfaction you get from publicly slating your employer?
I could be the post office, courier or newspaper company reading this! What security do you believe you are offering for the protection of your mortgage or bank loan repayments?
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Just to keep the record straight... I have no knowledge of Emerald or its management or staff... my comment was not directed specifically at the company or even this thread... it comes from 15 years in the cockpit...and crew rooms...
After 11 years of flying passengers and freight I became disallusioned with it and turned to aerial work and now love flying all over again....
After 11 years of flying passengers and freight I became disallusioned with it and turned to aerial work and now love flying all over again....
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From: The North
Turbo Rick,
Yes Turbo Rick you are quite correct, if the FOD has to leave it does say something, and that is his wife and kids live in the Northeast and he obviously wants to spend more time in that region. Not unreasonable i'm sure you`ll agree, but infering that he is leaving due to problems without revealing the full circumstances in an attempt to slur Emerald is a bit cheap.
Without wanting to repeat a previous post, if the above complainants are unhappy with the working arrangements at Emerald then just leave. The grass may seem greener on the other side guys and girl, but the !!!! may well be deeper. Reading some of the remarks and observing the attitudes of some contributors to this thread you need to get out of Emerald (or get a personality transplant).
And for all the low grade mental defectives, no i'm not MOB, his father, brother, nor do i work for Emerald.
Most people in this excuse for a company are trying to get out, for the reasons Fred states, senior management will never listen to the pilots, if the FOD has to leave it says something does it not?
Without wanting to repeat a previous post, if the above complainants are unhappy with the working arrangements at Emerald then just leave. The grass may seem greener on the other side guys and girl, but the !!!! may well be deeper. Reading some of the remarks and observing the attitudes of some contributors to this thread you need to get out of Emerald (or get a personality transplant).
And for all the low grade mental defectives, no i'm not MOB, his father, brother, nor do i work for Emerald.
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Engineer,
Third rate airlines, in my opinion, are those that start-up and subsequently go out of business within a relatively short period of time.
As per my previous post, Emerald, previously Janes Aviation, has proved to be successful and has been going significantly longer, without a change of ownership, than the majority of current UK airlines.
Third rate airlines, in my opinion, are those that start-up and subsequently go out of business within a relatively short period of time.
As per my previous post, Emerald, previously Janes Aviation, has proved to be successful and has been going significantly longer, without a change of ownership, than the majority of current UK airlines.
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
Ummm errr ahh hasn't the weather been interesting in Dublin over the last couple of days..
Got the job done and in some ways it was more rewarding to fly in that wx than when it's CAVOK. (Don't get me wrong, I like CAVOK!!)
Got the job done and in some ways it was more rewarding to fly in that wx than when it's CAVOK. (Don't get me wrong, I like CAVOK!!)
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
Concorde doors? Why not huh?
Although I reckon we should think outside the loop. A couple of Harriers carrying the freight could be the go. Zoom across to Kassel in a fraction of the time.
Although I reckon we should think outside the loop. A couple of Harriers carrying the freight could be the go. Zoom across to Kassel in a fraction of the time.
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Sounds good but we need a company slogan to put down the side.
"The mail always comes first" could be a good one.
Or how about "The Green Rock Rocks"
Maybe we should have a competition to find the best one.
Anyone got any ideas?
"The mail always comes first" could be a good one.
Or how about "The Green Rock Rocks"
Maybe we should have a competition to find the best one.
Anyone got any ideas?
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Question for Emerald Crews ?
Working along the premise that if you don't ask ... 
Genuine question on Emerald as I maybe moving to the NW and am considering applying for an Ops job there.
What's the relationship between crews and Ops ? Good ? Bad ?
What sort of service do you get from them ? Are decisions sensible, quick, info relayed accurate etc etc ?
Would you recommend employment there ? (considering RM contract lost, yet ATPs on order)
Thanks in advance ...
NB No relation to ghostrider749 !
Genuine question on Emerald as I maybe moving to the NW and am considering applying for an Ops job there.
What's the relationship between crews and Ops ? Good ? Bad ?
What sort of service do you get from them ? Are decisions sensible, quick, info relayed accurate etc etc ?
Would you recommend employment there ? (considering RM contract lost, yet ATPs on order)
Thanks in advance ...
NB No relation to ghostrider749 !
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From: UK
Hey Fred,
Plenty of ideas but Danny would probably have them removed for too many rude words.
Dada, MOB is the CEO
I agree with many posts here, the staff handling manner is apalling and I have seen a lady member of staff in tears after a telephone "moral boosting session" with a certain VERY senior member of management.
Anyone who hasn't worked there probably won't believe it.
People stay because, as stated previously, it pays the bills and people will tend to stick with what they know, especially if they have commitments in the area. I suspect the younger pilots are just staying til they get enough hours to fly something with fans on the wings and glass cockpits and the ops staff stay because there aren't so many jobs out there just now and have families locally.
On the plus side, say what you like about MOB, the airline is still there and expanding. I think he secretly wants to be MOL but hasn't got the loot to throw around!
ghost-rider,
can't speak for recently, but relations between crew and ops were good when I was there and each supported the other as much as possible.
Cannot honestly recommend working for them unless you have a very thick skin, don't mind being thought of as rubbish by the boss who considers he can do the job better than all the ops staff put together and love daily "morale boosts".
Other than that it's a great place!
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Plenty of ideas but Danny would probably have them removed for too many rude words.
Dada, MOB is the CEO
I agree with many posts here, the staff handling manner is apalling and I have seen a lady member of staff in tears after a telephone "moral boosting session" with a certain VERY senior member of management.
Anyone who hasn't worked there probably won't believe it.
People stay because, as stated previously, it pays the bills and people will tend to stick with what they know, especially if they have commitments in the area. I suspect the younger pilots are just staying til they get enough hours to fly something with fans on the wings and glass cockpits and the ops staff stay because there aren't so many jobs out there just now and have families locally.
On the plus side, say what you like about MOB, the airline is still there and expanding. I think he secretly wants to be MOL but hasn't got the loot to throw around!
ghost-rider,
can't speak for recently, but relations between crew and ops were good when I was there and each supported the other as much as possible.
Cannot honestly recommend working for them unless you have a very thick skin, don't mind being thought of as rubbish by the boss who considers he can do the job better than all the ops staff put together and love daily "morale boosts".
Other than that it's a great place!
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dada....Chief Executive Officer
Hushkit.......only because when HE makes mistakes nobody can b*****k him because he makes sure the only one who can doesn't find out, or he's told someone else to do it and when they mess up, b******s them himself!!!!
Been there, seen it!
Hushkit.......only because when HE makes mistakes nobody can b*****k him because he makes sure the only one who can doesn't find out, or he's told someone else to do it and when they mess up, b******s them himself!!!!
Been there, seen it!
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From: Duit On Mon Dei
Fred Shed,
How about the "Green Dream"?
I am not sure if the term is used in the UK but it is an euphamism for something in Oz. (No nothing rude, but it wouldn't be appropriate for an airline.)
Ops staff and crew. On the whole it isn't bad. Of course there's a few hiccoughs but I have found the night ops blokes will do their best to resolve any hassles.
How about the "Green Dream"?
I am not sure if the term is used in the UK but it is an euphamism for something in Oz. (No nothing rude, but it wouldn't be appropriate for an airline.)
Ops staff and crew. On the whole it isn't bad. Of course there's a few hiccoughs but I have found the night ops blokes will do their best to resolve any hassles.
Last edited by redsnail; 26th October 2003 at 23:17.