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hkadaily 11th Sep 2008 07:55

Any idea why 2 ex MAS f/o's who are working for HKA are off to Sanya for sims?

STVINCENT 11th Sep 2008 08:59

CIA Training

Sora Bulq 11th Sep 2008 09:28

Sanya Training
 
Perhaps a higher chance of a pass than with those sent to Oxford, Alteon or QANTAS?????

:eek:

SiNGH08 13th Sep 2008 03:22

Please explaining for me. If hong kong airlines and express are same company and hk airlines closes, what is happened to express. Thank you.

K.Y.J. Lee 13th Sep 2008 05:18

HKE/A
 
HKE and HKA are the same company to everybody except the HKCAD, who believe that they are seperate, sufficient to allow them to hold two AOCs.

HKA appears to be in it's death knells, even Dick Stew (one of the Singa toy boys) is reputed to be moving over to HKE as DFO. They could fold up HKA at any time, some are even suggesting that it would be a neat way for Hainan to dispose of a lot of debt. As for HKE, they appear to be a little bit better off than HKA.

Time will tell. :sad:

NotHere 13th Sep 2008 17:11

The arrival of A330s
 

HKA appears to be in it's death knells, even Dick Stew (one of the Singa toy boys) is reputed to be moving over to HKE as DFO. They could fold up HKA at any time
Thought I heard the A330s are arriving sometime next year :D !!! Can someone in the know shed some lights???

SiNGH08,
Is probably me but I find it hard to understand your English..........:ugh:

Happy landings!!

AAIGUY 13th Sep 2008 22:27

Very simply, there will never be any A330 @ HKA. They have most of the fleet parked. Interesting "Papa" seems now have Express painted on the side under HKA...

Heard the other day from a source in the company that they have lost 600 Billion HKD (just under a billion USD) and are losing it at a rate of 50-60 Million a month now.

Alex Mitrokhin 14th Sep 2008 09:39

Hainan Hands Back A340-600s
 
I just heard from a friend in CX that the A340-600s that CX were leasing to Hainan Arlines are now going to another carrier. Anybody know which one?

So much for the excitement about A340-600s in "HKA" colours

ONE BIRD 14th Sep 2008 12:42

All this slur against HKA........ be ready to recieve a law suite letter.

hongkongfooey 15th Sep 2008 05:08

A law suite ? Is that anything like a lounge suite :confused:

The problem with a widebody for HKA is that it will make it a lot harder to try and take off on taxiways, won't it :eek:

Hoofharted 15th Sep 2008 12:46

It (the suite) could also be an "ordered set of instrumental or orchestral pieces" to go with the "french letter".

I believe that an email has been circulated by the "powers that be" that it is indeed preferable to depart from the runway rather than the taxi-way. :sad:

Storpikk 16th Sep 2008 09:32

Disorganized
 
This question is for cockpit crew members with HKA/HKE. In my brief dealings with this company, it appears to me they are extremely disorganized, where the right hand does not know what the left hand did. Is this a common consensus?....

The talks about having a foot in the grave is this a reliable rumor???.:ugh:

Thanks :ok:

hkadaily 16th Sep 2008 14:54

Perf figures for Taxiway Aplha
 
Hi guys...where do I find the performance figures for take-off on Taxiway Alpha???? I am getting soooo confused........so many new captains with their own SOP's. :confused:

AAIGUY 17th Sep 2008 00:37

Attempting to take off on a taxi way!

Well done.. it appears all the above comments are true.. The new kids from down south just can't keep from causing incidents.

Had that happend during the day, well people would have likely died.. And it was the same Captain who the training department wrote that "leaked" memo so many months back saying he just wasn't up to it.

This needs a new thread.. so I shall start one.

hongkongfooey 17th Sep 2008 06:48

Storpikk, your profile says you are home with Mum................you are better off staying there than flying ( I use the term loosely ) for HKA.
99% of what you read hear is 100% on the money.
Are they going down the tube ?? Who knows except to say they are losing 10s of millions a month, you be the judge.

HKAdaily, same place you will find the charts you will need when you divert............in the office at CNAC house.

hkadaily 17th Sep 2008 09:46

cheers hongkongfooey...so does this mean that i'll have to call the CNAC office to get directions for my next diversion?

But seriously this incident on the taxiway was bound to happen with the captns previous issues during training.

What I am concerned about is that why are these guys being cleared to line? Does the general public know about this incident? Does the general public know that corruption is rife within CAD and HKA? Is there are higher power that these issues can be taken to (ie make it known to the general public exactly what is happening with the safety of aviation in HK)???

hongkongfooey 17th Sep 2008 14:31

No worries hka ;)
You can just ACARS them or use the satphone, that way they can have engineering and support ready for your arrival :}
From memory, the figures for TWY A from A11 are Flap5, 135,138 141, TOGA, 160,000.:eek:

Hoofharted 18th Sep 2008 13:12

Don't forget to allow for the temporary moving obstructions in the splay!!!!:ok:

hongkongfooey 19th Sep 2008 02:57

.............oh, and don't try an autoland on A, tends to land a bit too far to the left :ugh:

AAIGUY 19th Sep 2008 03:18

Also..

Taxiway "A" is a little narrower than your average runway.. You may have a different "picture" in the flare.


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