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drool69er 20th Jul 2008 02:00

HKA no longer has standards of any form. Its all nepitism and arse licking.

hongkongfooey 20th Jul 2008 02:09

Yep, its just that the standards are not that high :ugh:

S.E.Pilot 20th Jul 2008 06:06

How low?
 
What are the definitions of high and low standard? Can someone raise some solid examples? In my point of view, Flight Crew Training Manual, Company SOP and other relevant manuals from manufactory as well as company are the standard.

Eric Cheng-Kok 20th Jul 2008 07:07

Manufactory?????
 
Would that be the manuals from the manufactory, or the manuals from the Singa B******t Factory???

Just asking.

:}

drool69er 21st Jul 2008 03:08

Having flight manuals and SOP's and "manufactory??????" is all good but NONE OF THE SOUTH EAST ASIAN PILOTS follow them. Thats the HKA standard.

jetjockey696 21st Jul 2008 03:56

??
 
who does.... follow any sops. Not with any two companies i use towork for, some capt seems to have there own sops. especially pilots from airforce....:mad:

the manuals are there to satisfy regulator agencie. :ok:

dickstew 21st Jul 2008 04:36

Hi guys, don't worry I am writing a new set of manuals, almost done la just have to use my chingrish spell checker so we can understand it la!I am sure my new upgrade requirements will have the desired effect, TY you will be the first to upgraded once you get out from underneath simons desk, and all of those bloody gweilo fo's will not want to stay so we will finally have our master race airline!Anyway la more good news from monkey HQ coming soon LA!!!Fly safe my little monkeys,Dick StewChief Monkey, Training

NotHere 21st Jul 2008 15:55

Another day in HKA????
 
Well said Dick,

Looks like no matter what TY fella does, he will still get his upgrade!!! Won't even dare to be on board when he is flying the 737........:mad:

God bless!!!

pilotinasia 21st Jul 2008 17:11

heard about the new requirements :} only very few fo's 3 or 4 non-asian (suprisingly except EC) meets those NASA's requirements. So far talk only, just have to wait & see if it can be approved :rolleyes:

hkadaily 23rd Jul 2008 12:27

Dick Lai
 
Any comments on Dick Lai's email to everyone about the GMF taking a months leave?

NotHere 23rd Jul 2008 12:48

Can't trust these Dickies as snakes remain snakes!!!! :* Heard lots of stuff bout this TY guy from his ex-colleagues!!! Man.......bad news!!!!:mad:

Happy Flying.........:)

FAD 23rd Jul 2008 14:50

AGNES, an ex-Chief works in HKA? Who?

Capt Vertigo 25th Jul 2008 17:21

What standards can you guys expect when "Dick Stew" when he does not have standards other than s**k**g up to the SINGASNAKES for the postion CPTraining !! :ugh:

Chill man!!

drool69er 2nd Aug 2008 03:15

I see the snakes are maintaining there personal low ethical standards.

Meeting arranged with only invites to those who are from South America or from the snake pit. - Good one snakes, your maintaining your great business ethic of sneaking behind everyone's backs!!

Money is getting tight huh? You need to slither around and try to get the poor South Americans to lower themsevles to your level. Good luck trying to get them to move to Manila

And now dormitory accommodation for crew in Beijing????? This is the best of them all. Thanks snakes, you made me laugh for a looooong time at this one. Good on you Stew Dick, this must be your idea to try and sexually harrass some more hosties.

Well, pilotinasia, looks like all your bumlicking isn't going to do you any good, unless you pay for your own command upgrade - ha! Enjoy the dormitory.

Losers.

witchiepoo 3rd Aug 2008 17:44

just to clarify...
 
....are Hong Kong Express and Hong Kong Airlines one and the same company? The web site says they are "sister companies", does one fly cargo...have different bases...is one better than the other Do they fall under different management structures?..Pay scales?

drool69er 4th Aug 2008 08:13

Witchiepoo

They are separate. HKA is nowhere near the same standard as HKE, HKA run by racist, discriminating, sexual harassing criminals, HKE run by almost normal people.

Pay scales different depending on what nationality you are from for HKA. I think HKE is uniform pay scale.

Command upgrades for HKA are for the criminals mates who can't fly to save themsevles and threaten to kill TRE's if they fail them or an individual arselicking F/O. HKE is based on what most airlines call seniority.

Oh, and by the way, QAR reports from South East Asian pilots are DELETED(hard landings, overbanking just to name a couple) whilst any other nationality who has a QAR will be reported.

Go figure.

Can't wait till CAD finds about this. ALL YOU SINGA SNAKES AND S.E.A. PILOTS ARE F*CKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA - go home!! Before you get sent home.

hailer 4th Aug 2008 09:54

Drool69er, I suggest you defer your celebrations if it is based on action by the CAD.

If QAR evidence is being tampered with we all know the implications but to expect the CAD to act when they have had their stamp of approval (a valid AOC) on the standards of a totally inept organisation for more than 6 years (since the CR days) does not suggest the CAD will act now.

The individual FOI may take a hard line but from Assistant or Deputy Director upwards they will do as their political masters instruct, and the threat of Hainan dis investing with all the resultant fall out is more than our government could abide.

You are correct - HKE was a far different organisation. Now, however, I hear that numbers are diminishing as the HKA influence becomes paramount. Their DFO recently left and I believe that their General Manager Flying is now to follow. Both are professionally sound good men. That does not suggest an improvement is nigh!

hongkongfooey 5th Aug 2008 05:17

Hailer, unfortunately, you are bang on the money.

Latest rumour going around the traps ( outside of the hallowed HKA walls ) is HKA shutting shop, Hainan might have deep pockets but how long are they willing to lose money for, already been 18 months or more :confused:

They were'nt making money at < USD100/barrell, so they sure as 5hit are'nt makin' any at > USD125/barrell :{
Bring on the widebodies...bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha :}

Sora Bulq 5th Aug 2008 07:00

HKCAD Collusion
 
Hailer and hongkongfooey, correct on all counts.

Hailer, as far as collusion with the HKCAD, it extend to a very senior level, HKA now get's away with whatever they want, based on protection, and a policy of "hands-off" that emanates from very senior non-operational CAD management.

Their current FOI has been thrown out of every other operator on the airfield, and HKA is the last place that he can work. The regulatory oversight there is practically non-existent.

:mad:

SlimShadey 6th Aug 2008 09:11


Latest rumour going around the traps ( outside of the hallowed HKA walls ) is HKA shutting shop, Hainan might have deep pockets but how long are they willing to lose money for, already been 18 months or more
:rolleyes: Wake me up when that ACTUALLY happens .... "yawwnnnnn"


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