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Old 9th Jan 2022, 17:49
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And the Tin Ear of the week award goes tooooooo....

Junius Ho, pro Beijing politician in Hong Kong. From NYT.

"One partygoer who did not apologize was Junius Ho, a firebrand pro-Beijing lawmaker who denounced the government’s handling of his brief quarantine. In a live video stream, he criticized Mrs. Lam and others, pounding his fist on a table until his phone went flying.

“The government is completely out of order, completely dysfunctional,” he wrote on Facebook. He said if he’d known that health workers were merely going to drop him off at a subway station after his release, not take him home, he would have called his own driver."

I wonder when he last had a good session of self criticism?



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Old 10th Jan 2022, 10:52
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 03:32
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https://www.newsbreak.com/news/24822...utbreak-leader
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 04:40
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Naïve if you think that this is anything other than a politically motivated campaign to get rid of colonial era airline from a Chinese city. Perhaps if they try hard they can get Cathay to be responsible for the Kennedy assassination.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 05:34
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Time for a reshuffle

Now with the potential of legal action against CX, Hughes and Kempis should resign, make it clear as managers they take responsibility for their employees. This would really highlight the hypocrisy of the HKG Government.

Swire would look after their own and is probably time for a reshuffle anyway.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 06:01
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Now with the potential of legal action against CX, Hughes and Kempis should resign, make it clear as managers they take responsibility for their employees. This would really highlight the hypocrisy of the HKG Government.

Swire would look after their own and is probably time for a reshuffle anyway.
Swire has already boarded the lifeboats, those left behind now are merely the band; and they’ve been ordered to just keep on playing the music. Ain’t no first class passengers left worth saving.

I would worry more about the masses, wondering around the decks without a life jacket telling themselves “she’s unsinkable, we’ll be fine”.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 08:05
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The smart ones never boarded;

the rats all jumped overboard last year;

the quick thinkers are in the life boats;

the naive ones are hoping for a miracle….

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus...s-locals-leave

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Old 11th Jan 2022, 08:30
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Originally Posted by kenfoggo View Post
Naïve if you think that this is anything other than a politically motivated campaign to get rid of colonial era airline from a Chinese city. Perhaps if they try hard they can get Cathay to be responsible for the Kennedy assassination.
This is about a socialist policy, not political in the CCP eyes.

The Colonials, like the Mainland tycoons have felt the wrath. HK law protects the Swire’s, but the CHP mandate and strict border closure works around that.

This is no different to when Hogg and Slosar fell on their swords, the airline back then was crippled with airspace restrictions.

The CCP is protecting their citizens and the reality is that Includes HK
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 09:02
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Today 8 import-related cases, the highest number yet.
So far, they are losing the battle of whack-a-mole with omicron.
The numbers by date in January are:
Jan/cases;
2/1
3/1
4/3
5/3
6/4
7/7
8/6
9/6
10/5
11/8

Cases should double in 1.5 to 3 days, according to previous experiences in other countries.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 09:44
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She’s out there, with a six shooter in each hand




“A veteran pro-establishment politician, who declined to be named, said Cathay, whose majority shareholder is London-based conglomerate John Swire & Sons, was an easy scapegoat for pro-establishment politicians and pro-Beijing media to deflect blame arising from the birthday party scandal.
“For the pro-establishment camp, Cathay Pacific is not ‘their own people’. Pointing the finger at the carrier can ease the political pressure facing them,” the politician said.”

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I’m very worried that CXi may not be around for much longer.

They look after their own, and that’s where Greater Bay Airlines comes into the grand scheme of things.
Well connected to the CCP, and ready to fill the gap left by CXi after the last flight has gone.



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Old 11th Jan 2022, 11:27
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https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/22...ST_BjpbbWVh4u4

Further strangling Of CX in the footing.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 14:29
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It's going to be weird not seeing Danny on a CX bashing piece. Always remember that you can email him your tips [email protected]

So far it's just words with no real action. Who is left to resign anyway? The big ones took a fall after 2019's debacle. Cannot really see Tang and Lam leaving. They will always require the face of the company to be ethnically Chinese especially now it's backed by the North much more than it was.

Edit: I got called Danny once or twice. Clearly I am not. To be fair his twitter and the twitter of tripperhead have somewhat decent info on the happenings of HK without the BS of WhatsApp groups.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 15:38
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I spent most of the 2000's going after Nick Rhodes and the assorted cabal of misguided individuals we were then being attacked by (you may remember Trafalgar and Old China Driver :-) Compared to the situation now, they were choir boys. It was bad enough the pilots being attacked by management. Now, it seems the entire Govt is turning not only against the airline, but specifically against the pilots themselves. That will lead to a dangerous situation, where public anger will be manifesting itself directly against aircrew. It may be prudent to not travel in uniform anymore as someone may be so enraged to physically take action. I do feel that something terminal has taken place regarding the long term viability of CX, and now believe it may not survive in its present form. A very sad end to what was once the worlds greatest airline. Going back to Nick Rhodes (Ken Barley, Eddington etc...), they and their policies began the rot. We are now in the end game. Nick, you've got your wish. I did enjoy our jousting though. It was amusing knowing the groups you put together to figure out who OCD and Trafalgar were.
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 17:36
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“There’s no money in freight”

Turns out old Nick wasn’t too far off the mark, now that most of the freighters are grounded.
Well, for CXi anyway.
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Old 12th Jan 2022, 02:30
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I think Swire closed the wrong airline down.....
https://onemileatatime.com/news/hong...it-passengers/
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Old 12th Jan 2022, 05:33
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How much worse can it possibly get?
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Old 12th Jan 2022, 08:41
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How much worse can it possibly get?
Cathay will fold soon.
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Old 12th Jan 2022, 12:35
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=I...ature=youtu.be

your man is standing up for you guys.
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Old 12th Jan 2022, 13:30
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Healy has restored some of my faith in the cx management. However, I feel, like past senior management his time is now numbered for standing up for his people. It won’t be long before the gov will ask for his resignation and put in place someone more willing to tow the line.
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Old 12th Jan 2022, 13:38
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Are you fing kidding. That was nothing more than pandering to the government. Yeah he is really proud of everyone, the sacrifice that crew are making. He slashed contracts, that is how much he appreciates the sacrifice. Hong Kong and CX have totally lost the plot. Rather than sending a huge number onto bases so that everything possible could be crewed with minimal time in HKG, they decide to use the situation for control, getting everyone onto the new contract. Well done, you have taken Cathay to it's grave. Astounding mismanagement.
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