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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 03:32
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Sqwak,

That was not closed loop flying.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 03:41
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Originally Posted by AtoBsafely View Post
Sqwak,

That was not closed loop flying.
company will require you to work 3 weeks with 1 week of quarantine? Pretty sure you can’t work 4 weeks straight without your consent.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 04:08
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Looks like Danny Lee is no longer with SCMP, maybe too critical of HK gov? Interesting timing
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 05:58
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RTHK
(probably a matter of time before they’re also silenced)

John Lee slams 'baseless' WSJ editorial on HK
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...3-20220103.htm

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-c...nt-11640816951

“internationally preferred place for business”

WTF is this clown smoking!
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 06:37
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Originally Posted by cxflog View Post
Looks like Danny Lee is no longer with SCMP, maybe too critical of HK gov? Interesting timing
His CX bashing will continue elsewhere. His twitter was always full of proverbial anyway. Thank god they got rid of him.

His goodbye is just how anti CX he was. In some ways it would have been good if he passed his cadetship, someone would have kicked him into line.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 06:49
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Originally Posted by Sqwak7700 View Post
How quickly you through your fellow crew under the bus. They had the balls you lack to stand up to these ridiculous rules and live their life the way you clearly can’t.

“when injustice becomes the rule, disobedience becomes your duty”

Not enough people standing up has gotten us in this position. Stop acting like any of this is “mandatory”. Your election of closed loop flying was fully voluntary and now you are deluding yourself that you where “required by your company” to do them instead of facing the truth.

Look in the mirror and you will see who is to blame.

and again as someone said its not closed loop…. When u came back from duty…you were 3 days in home quarantine…let out after u passed your 3rd day test….normally the result came in on the 4th day.

so if you were doing regional….you could potentially not even get to your 3rd day test, thus all you were doing was shuttling from work to home to work. 3 occasions for myself in dec….2 of which i was allowed out for about 20 hours and 3rd occasion ai got a bunch of G day and finally was out. Again it wasnt closed loop. Just ******* stupid shit….which is the reason why some dumb shits didnt really get the implication that you werent meant to go out and we are currently in this shit fight….they just did there 3 rd day test and booked out for lunch without the result.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 07:24
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Originally Posted by herewego75 View Post
Still you see CAPTAINS being treated "so badly" asking all these questions on Yammer. Tagging the GMO and DFO. Asking about loops and COS18. Um I have an idea, why don't you grow a pair and either get booked off or resign! You are embarrassing yourselves!

Another question I have to ask is all the pilots "making noise" on these forums. Where are they from? Are they local or western pilots? There will never be unity in this airline because of the demographics and that is completely understandable.
Remember if you don't want to fly, need to go see family or need a mental health break - GET BOOKED OFF WORK! Or do us all a favour and resign.

A few captains are continually bashing on about COS18 and more money (ironically some are from the old guard at the AOA that wanted to push TA18 through with their housing intact), its NEVER going to be increased. RA55 is done! Move on or leave please.

At no point do I agree with the treatment of the pilots as a whole, but you have a choice in life. Stick it out, accept or you can leave (you are lucky you can leave this dump of a country)! the CHOICE is yours.

Keep safe everyone and safe landings.

​​​kenfoggo it would not surprise me at all. they will pay other pilots more than their own pilots.
Was it not that long ago that you were advocating that senior pilots leave to protect the careers of junior pilots ? So it seems that the just leave argument is something of a leitmotif in your posts. That and bang out to the freighter, the apparent panacea of opportunities, an opportunity that 18 months ago most CX pilots looked down upon and wouldn’t have touched with a barge pole.
Of course most of the posters on here are qweilohs.
I assume from the nature and style of your posts that
you’re relatively young ? Frankly CX is toast if this continues, HKGOV’s pseudo financial support or not. So maybe get out yourself whilst you can, start over, before this lifestyle causes irreparable, deleterious affects to your health. And before you ask, I have left. Long since. And whilst I miss the flying, I haven’t looked back.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 20:27
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One wonders if all this CoVid 19 press coverage is a simple smoke screen to cover the real developing economic crisis in China and Hong Kong with the problems at Evergrande being the catalyst. I hope that is just a nasty rumour but one which is gaining traction at world wide news stations like the BBC. Have Evergrande shares really been suspended from trading in Hong Kong?
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 21:47
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A developing economic crisis is not just in Red China and Hong Kong. Unprecedented money printing, developing inflation and reluctance to raise taxes to pay for everything will cause financial turmoil in lots of 'first world' countries. Third world ones, which are not able to print their own money, are already running out: today Sri Lanka reported that it had.

Financial Times headline:
Evergrande shares suspended after report it was told to destroy buildings. Chinese media outlet says authorities demanded indebted property company demolish residential complex.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 10:12
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The Centre for Health Protection (CHP) on Tuesday said it's investigating what appears to be a local Covid-19 infection which is not linked to any other recent cases.
Au said the man had not been in contact with any known Covid-19 patients, or visited any high-risk areas, and he hadn't been to the Moon Palace restaurant in Festival Walk which is at the centre of a recent outbreak.
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...abChangeable=0
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 16:40
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Originally Posted by Arnie Madsen View Post
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Where I live (Manitoba Canada) we had 1494 new cases December 31st

1223 of those were people fully vaccinated

262 were not vaccinated

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Where I live (Manitoba Canada) we had 1494 new cases December 31st

1223 of those were people fully vaccinated

262 were not vaccinated

Yes but how many vaxxers ended up in hospital thereby displacing patients who need surgery or other critical care?
It’s easy to cherry pick only the facts you want to hear, try reading the complete story.
And yes I’m Canadian too.
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Old 6th Jan 2022, 19:08
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The HK Quarantine support group do excellent work to help and guide people through the traumas of 21 day quarantine. They have several media outlets, FB being one of them. If you ever get sectioned into Pennys Bay or the Lantau Correctional Services Hospital, they can keep you sane. They can also dig up some amusing snippets such as this...



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Old 7th Jan 2022, 08:43
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https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/33-new-co...d-in-wan-chai/

'7 preliminary cases have been confirmed as imported-related cases. One of them is a 37-year-old woman who lives in Causeway Bay and attended Witman Hung’s birthday party at Reserva Ibérica restaurant in Wan Chai. Around 170 people including top government officials attended the party. Around 70 of them stayed after 9.30pm. Another new preliminary case linked to the birthday cluster is Joyce Yeung, a RTHK broadcaster.'

Starting to kick off. Hopefully the older generation can get their shot in time.
Elderly flock to get their shot.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...abChangeable=0

They are not calling any infections as 'local', I wonder if there is a political aspect to this to cling on the the possibility of reopening to China.
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 12:22
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The older generation still do not care about getting vaccinated. The 50-60 year olds are getting vaccinated so they can hot pot with friends. Whole thing is a time bomb that will be their own silly fault. At least they have waited until Omicron/Xi variant hit. At least its a less deadly variant...
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 16:16
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Some recent arrivals from A+ countries did not go to Penny's Bay, but were sent to a "Government Quarantine Hotel" the "silka/Cosmo" hotel. Staff from DOH said that they send the PAX from the first incoming flights to the hotel until it is full, then the rest to Penny's Bay.

An interesting development. Could it be that they want to show that it is not only VVIPs that get a quarantine hotel when a close contact? Hoi Polloi from DB get PB, without the option...

The wheels are not yet coming off but there is a loud noise from the bearings.
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Old 8th Jan 2022, 05:17
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The 5th wave begins
No Covid in HK.
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Old 8th Jan 2022, 05:26
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On a lighter note:



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Old 8th Jan 2022, 07:12
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Originally Posted by Cury Lamb View Post
On a lighter note:


that is fantastic!
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Old 9th Jan 2022, 01:29
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Originally Posted by herewego75 View Post
The 5th wave begins
No Covid in HK.
No covid in the motherland either:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgec...h=1c1cf8a14352
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Old 9th Jan 2022, 04:37
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Originally Posted by herewego75 View Post
The 5th wave begins
No Covid in HK.
Quietly building.

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/resident-...ion-suspected/
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