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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 21:30
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Why would CoS18 on a base have no allowance? The company made it very clear that the allowance is not a housing allowance. I have living expenses on a base as well. My mortgage isn't going to go away with a massive pay downgrade, why would my monthly pay be 3,900 USD less than a a HKG based captain?
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 22:16
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Why ?

Why? Because you accepted it, that's why.
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 23:36
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I've accepted nothing. I was responding to controlled rest who suggested bases be left open on CoS18 without a monthly allowance. I was questioning the logic behind the lack of allowance. There is only one base left open and if CoS18 is presented without the monthly allowance its a non-starter. I'll just take the negotiated severance and go.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 01:23
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I think most of the pilots have already moved on, have no intentions of returning to stalag HK, and are quite happy to have the salary deposited into the bank every month thanks.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 06:55
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8Driver, what's the negotiated severance?
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 20:28
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They need to announce the base closure first and then we will see what is negotiated. I would think we'd get pretty much the same as what the other base areas have received, although I'd certainly push for more knowing that the visa question has been settled.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 21:14
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It is my understanding that Aussie offered to stay on zero pay, the Canadians offered to go onto zero pay and the Kiwis offered POS18, no HKG living allowance whilst still in NZ, until the company needed the manpower, all to try to keep the bases open. Instead the company has decided to force those who can (and wanted to) to return to HKG ASAP to do nothing (and increase the costs to the individuals and the company) and to pay out all the highly experienced pilots who couldn't get a visa.

The USA base will close, visas and POS18 won't be offered. At least there are jobs going in the States, so the obvious thing to do is take the money and run.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 00:35
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Controlledrest,

Absolutely take the money and run and I fully expect the base to close. The sooner the announcement is made the better so we can get on with our lives. Those that offered to accept PoS18 with no allowance did nobody any favors, especially those of us in the USA if for some reason the company does want to negotiate a new CBA. But they did negotiate severance packages that are better than three months pay, so I thank them for that.
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 05:18
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mngmt mole

they have certainly destroyed more pilot careers than just about any others airline in history
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