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Old 8th September 2021 | 07:55
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Sorry to hear UK guys. After being "chopped" in Aus, I never actually felt bad leaving CX behind (despite not having a job to go to). So all is not lost.
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Old 8th September 2021 | 08:00
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Hi Will, do you know how many were on the base and how many went back to Hong Kong?
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Old 8th September 2021 | 08:22
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About 20% returned. The company obviously was happy to see the other 80% disappear.

I suspect similar figures will return from the U.K., and expect 0% returning from the US.
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Old 8th September 2021 | 08:36
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Thanks for that info, sad to see so many great people being forced leave the airline, after giving up their salary.
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Old 9th September 2021 | 02:51
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Sad to hear of another base closure. One assumes the affected pilots will be treated with the same compassion, empathy and recognition of long service that other based pilots have received?
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Old 9th September 2021 | 10:16
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DFO and GMA didn't even have the guts to front this and make the announcement.
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Old 10th September 2021 | 05:04
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I heard 90 of 125 took redundancy. (In oz)

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Old 10th September 2021 | 05:26
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Are you joking? CX no longer has an compassion, empathy or recognition of long service....it is just another Asian LCC heading towards a hull loss. (I do hope you are joking, or simply no nothing about CX).
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Old 10th September 2021 | 12:23
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So wound up you can't even recognize sarcasm?
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Old 10th September 2021 | 23:08
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I did think it was a piss take, but these days it is hard to tell.

There are some out there who think the company did the right thing by ignoring the contract and pushing everyone on to POS18, instead of following LIFO and cutting 1500 off the bottom.
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Old 11th September 2021 | 21:10
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Controlled rest.....Who thinks that ? Management ? Or are you referring to crew ?
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Old 11th September 2021 | 22:55
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Those who believe they are safe. They will be coming for you next. The thirst for pilot tears is never satisfied.
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Old 12th September 2021 | 15:22
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They really don't care if you cry or not - it's a relentless pressure to reduce costs and (hopefully for their stockholders) increase returns - that's capitalism.

Many industries have seen the same thing over the years - it just seems to happen faster now
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Old 14th September 2021 | 00:13
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I suspect all who joined on POS18 are pleased that the contract was abandoned and LIFO wasn't used. DFO and GMA are probably also pleased as forcing us all onto POS18 will help secure their bonuses.
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Old 18th September 2021 | 12:35
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https://www.hallpayne.com.au/blog/20...ilots-lss-win/

Good on ya

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Old 18th September 2021 | 16:15
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Hope it works out for them . Not tied up in courts for years and just profit to the lawyers .
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Old 19th September 2021 | 14:07
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CX lawyers wrong again! Could it be that CX hired the cheapest lawyers around for the EA expecting them to perform their duty more meticulous then higher payed lawyers? I wonder which other group within CX that the directors expect the same from?

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Old 2nd October 2021 | 11:21
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Those who have returned to HKG from bases, did you get current again quickly or were you left sitting around in HKG for months? Are you now flying?

Thanks.
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Old 3rd October 2021 | 01:45
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A caring company would have left bases open until there was sufficient work in HKG for applicants to get visas. A well managed company would have moved pilots onto POS18, withheld HKG living allowance and left them on the base until they could be trained and used on the line.

CX has closed the bases and destroyed lives. The few with PR have moved back to HKG and are now doing no training and no work, but are separated from their families and incurring the added expense of living in HKG.
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Old 3rd October 2021 | 06:17
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Makes you wonder why there was such a sudden rush to close bases, hmmm?
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