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Welcome to Oakland (our new hotel destination for SFO)

Old 28th Jul 2018, 20:09
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Originally Posted by ACMS View Post
+1 for Tucker......only one with any Brains on American TV. Calls out all the bs left spin crap, CNN are a bloody disgrace.
Tucker Carlson worked for CNN for 5 years. He then worked for MSNBC for 3 years, until his show was cancelled.

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Old 28th Jul 2018, 23:01
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TC has one of the highest rated television shows in the US (that simple fact shows you that you are the muppet JPJP). And, a FACT that I know all you liberal snowflakes can't handle, Fox news crushes every other network. That might lead some of you who aren't eternally lost to lib dysfunction to sit and ponder. The mindset of the USA isn't what you see on CNN and MSNBC. It's a very conservative country, one that is completely misrepresented by the liberal media elites on both coasts. MAGA. (I was based at Nellis, NV years ago on exchange from the RAF. Great country, great people).
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 00:35
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TC has one of the highest rated television shows in the US (that simple fact shows you that you are the muppet JPJP). And, a FACT that I know all you liberal snowflakes can't handle, Fox news crushes every other network. That might lead some of you who aren't eternally lost to lib dysfunction to sit and ponder. The mindset of the USA isn't what you see on CNN and MSNBC. It's a very conservative country, one that is completely misrepresented by the liberal media elites on both coasts. MAGA. (I was based at Nellis, NV years ago on exchange from the RAF. Great country, great people).
Thatís fascinating that you were able to visit the U.S. on exchange. We have that in common. I deeply appreciate your analysis of the socioeconomic strata.

Iíve lived in the U.S. for the last 20 years, and hope that you continue to enjoy watching it on your TV. Muppet.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 01:06
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Jp. Based on ypur evident level of intellectual capacity i imagine the Muppet show is about all you watch on tv.
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Originally Posted by Flex88 View Post
Been there lately? The whole area is packed full of bums, vagrants criminals, drug addicts & illegal aliens. Why anyone even wants to visit this area these days is beyond belief..
Oakland itself is in the top 10 of the most violent cities in the US..

Just say NO to #SFO
the american college of surgeons ( I am a member) use to meet there every 4 years, we had some many doctors being mugged with their wifes walking from the hotels to the conference (Moscone?) site that many of us refuse to go there. And it is a sorry thing, I loved going there in the 70-80 and stayed in Sausalito across the bay. No way any more, the place is full of beggars and drugs and prostitutes soliciting business, they can wall off San Fran and Oakland together I am not going to miss it.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 01:41
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@magyarflyer, with all due respect, this discussion is now about who has the best ratings on US cable news and which contributor to this thread is the biggest 'muppet'. The fact that you speak from a position of knowledge regarding the original topic of this discussion is, quite frankly, purely coincidental and I dare say of little interest to the protagonists and antagonists.

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Old 29th Jul 2018, 02:17
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Originally Posted by Steve the Pirate View Post
@magyarflyer, with all due respect, this discussion is now about who has the best ratings on US cable news and which contributor to this thread is the biggest 'muppet'. The fact that you speak from a position of knowledge regarding the original topic of this discussion is, quite frankly, purely coincidental and I dare say of little interest to the protagonists and antagonists.

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Steve,

You make a good point, and I’m probably a little guilty. We’ve (the airline I work for) stayed at the Hilton SFO for some time. My original intent was to commiserate. I have friends that have worked at Cathay for decades. However; the lunantic aged fringe, whose only connection to the U.S. is a television, proved to be distracting.

Its ironic really, considering the current administrations feelings regarding unions and airline pilots. I wonder if they’d side with your management, or not ? Yes they would - and they’d bend you over even further. With a MAGA hat glued firmly to some of your pilots heads. Which would be really amusing.

No, that’s not a good hotel. It’s three star at best. No, it’s not a good area. If you were a domestic airline, then you’d at least be in and out after a short stay. With Cathay - that’s obviously not the case.

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Originally Posted by Air Profit View Post
Fox news crushes every other network
Yee-haw! USA! USA! USA!
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 05:37
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Lunatic aged fringe....

You need to get out a bit brother.

oh and how’s the US economy doing lately?

yep Obama’s incompetence is being erased.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 07:55
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Record stock market levels, record home prices, record low unemployment, 4.1% growth (and increasing), Boeing, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc, etc. As ACMS just pointed out, thank the Lord that the communist community organizer and his band of criminals has been ousted. The rest of the world will barely be able to hang onto the USA's coattails. You don't have to like the man, but at least he is putting America first, and rebuilding her manufacturing base, cutting taxes, invigorating business, cutting red tape, cutting legislation and finally putting a stop to the liberal madness that almost buried the country (and something that Europe seems hellbent on accomplishing). No need to argue the facts. Let's compare the USA and Europe in a decades time. Trump will be reelected by a landslide.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 09:50
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Record stock market levels, record home prices, record low unemployment, 4.1% growth (and increasing), Boeing, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc, etc. As ACMS just pointed out, thank the Lord that the communist community organizer and his band of criminals has been ousted. The rest of the world will barely be able to hang onto the USA's coattails. You don't have to like the man, but at least he is putting America first, and rebuilding her manufacturing base, cutting taxes, invigorating business, cutting red tape, cutting legislation and finally putting a stop to the liberal madness that almost buried the country (and something that Europe seems hellbent on accomplishing). No need to argue the facts. Let's compare the USA and Europe in a decades time. Trump will be reelected by a landslide.
All this is true... but why does he have to be such a dick?
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 10:36
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You'ld be a dick too if you were constantly attacked by the media, democratic party, the deep state establishments, rino's (republicans in name only), Obama (), corporate america (who just want cheap labour), foreign nations (who just want unfair trade, in their favor), raving loony libs, ass wipe Governors of democrat states, cheap strippers, hollywood.... You get the idea. He ran against 16 top name Republicans and beat them at their own game, then he took down the anointed queen of criminality, Hillary "Lock her Up" Clinton. Don't have to like the man, but you have to admire his stamina and resolve. America is becoming healthy again after 24 years of damage by Clinton/Bush/Obama.
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You'ld be a dick too if you were constantly attacked by the media, democratic party, the deep state establishments, rino's (republicans in name only), Obama (), corporate america (who just want cheap labour), foreign nations (who just want unfair trade, in their favor), raving loony libs, ass wipe Governors of democrat states, cheap strippers, hollywood.... You get the idea. He ran against 16 top name Republicans and beat them at their own game, then he took down the anointed queen of criminality, Hillary "Lock her Up" Clinton. Don't have to like the man, but you have to admire his stamina and resolve. America is becoming healthy again after 24 years of damage by Clinton/Bush/Obama.
If Fox News says itís true then it must be true.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 11:28
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It's easy to have a "healthy" economy when you can print your own currency into infinity! Have a look behind the recent GDP numbers and realise they were adjusted using a huge deflator. Record stock markets mean nothing but indicate huge levels of inflation, just like Zimbabwe. Flak jacket on for incoming.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 11:38
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Here in Europe we have economies too but we also have a thing called society which is not based exclusively on money. It varies from place to place as do our economies and we have some things that you in America don't; like free speech, the willingness not to bear arms and a degree of concern rather than contempt for the less well off in our societies.
Fortunately there is a big ocean between us ( or along haul flight if you prefer) so you can live your lives and we can live ours . And in ten years time that word 'imported' you stick on things we send you will still be a cachet for exclusive, superior or just plain better, so the better your economy does the better ours do too.
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
Here in Europe we have economies too but we also have a thing called society which is not based exclusively on money. It varies from place to place as do our economies and we have some things that you in America don't; like free speech, the willingness not to bear arms and a degree of concern rather than contempt for the less well off in our societies.
Fortunately there is a big ocean between us ( or along haul flight if you prefer) so you can live your lives and we can live ours . And in ten years time that word 'imported' you stick on things we send you will still be a cachet for exclusive, superior or just plain better, so the better your economy does the better ours do too.
a big ocean between us, yes indeed we in USA are so glad of that because in 10 years half of the Population in the African continent is going to be living in Western Europe and I doubt that you will be able to continue living your lives like you have been accostumed. The great exodus is already happening and will worsen as the population increases and the lack of resources forces emigration. Russia and the eastern states that can control this inevitable change in demographics would be ahead. In the meantime here in the old USA hopefully the hideous trump will continue to consider unwanted immigration as a lethal for,USA for the health of the nation.just look at the streets in Paris or recently Ceuta and tell me we are wrong. And this is no global warming debate, is happening right now.
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There are approx 540 million people living in the EU , they are facing 1,3 Bullion Africans currently living in Africa .
Every Black state is a disaster and most of the inhabitants want to migrate to Europe . You donít have to be a rocket scientist to see what is going to happen to the European way of life .
As long as Merkel remains in power in Germany and Spain continues to accept illegals from Africa Europe is doomed
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... but just think how great the WC futbol teams will be! EU countries might able to compete in track and field at the Olympics too. Surely, these will make it worthwhile.
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cxorcist....you crack me up! Football....yes, a good tradeoff for the loss of your entire culture. Only the UK and the US have any hope of surviving the next 20 years. Thank god for oceans. (and a curse on those liberal, deluded and narcissistic internationalists that can't understand or see that they are about to witness the destruction of their millennial old cultures...).
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Originally Posted by Apple Tree Yard View Post
Record stock market levels, record home prices, record low unemployment, 4.1% growth (and increasing), Boeing, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc, etc. As ACMS just pointed out, thank the Lord that the communist community organizer and his band of criminals has been ousted. The rest of the world will barely be able to hang onto the USA's coattails. You don't have to like the man, but at least he is putting America first, and rebuilding her manufacturing base, cutting taxes, invigorating business, cutting red tape, cutting legislation and finally putting a stop to the liberal madness that almost buried the country (and something that Europe seems hellbent on accomplishing). No need to argue the facts. Let's compare the USA and Europe in a decades time. Trump will be reelected by a landslide.
The majority of these "facts" are quite debatable in nature or at least the cause and effect relationship. Let's briefly look at it point by point...Record stock market levels: Determining the health a trading exchange cannot entirely be based on the index of a small fraction of the players. Even if you fall back on the primal measure of higher is better, I would offer that is true when majority of the nation is invested in said market valuation is that "good" for the nation, and not just a few individuals.

Record home prices: Not all that unlike of the above view of the stock market, one should ask if home prices are high who is that "good" for. It's probably not those who are first time home buyers allocating record proportions of their income to payments or those wishing to become home buyers. Current real estate trends are that entry level and lower priced home are in short supply and average age of first home owners is rising significantly. As above, if that question is asked who that is "good" for the answers are far from cut and dry.

Record low employment: This one which should be the most statistical fact based measurement is in fact the most debatable of all. Firstly because it's facts are anything but when you take into account the amount subjective assumptions built into Bureau of Labor Statistic's "magic black box" as it is known among economists. It has been this way since 20 years when my Econometrics professor opined about the nuclear launch code level secrecy of the BLS's adjustments. Secondly, it becomes holistically difficult to take the BLS U3 numbers on face value when the historical rates imply that labor wages should be rising when they are not. The latest pronouncements concerning this contradiction are that wages are expected to rise in later quarterly measurement this years as if they knew all along that wages would stay flat for the last 12 quarters. Even the head America First cheerleader, Trump, as a candidate, chided the U3 numbers as bunk, when he was trying to tap into the wave of populist frustration from middle income electorate. Funny how he's changed his mind on reliability of BLS reports.

As for the rest of the "facts" that there is no need to argue with...(please turn on sarcasm filter)

Let's start with the ending assertion of Trump winning is a landslide... current polling shows that to be far from the case. In spite of improved economic conditions, Trump has consistently polled unfavorably in all groups save for his base of white men who can sympathetically relate to his hair styling dilemmas. Maybe it's jealousy over his masterful ability to offend everyone in a room, but just as likely as his clever strategy to extort other nations in the world into hating America. It must be part of his brilliant plan to solve America's immigration issues.

/filter off

As for rebuilding manufacturing base... It's sorta funny to see those that exalt free market virtues artificially driving up base metal prices to the detriment of farmers, fisherman, construction firms, and many others, then picking to aid one out of that group. Inventors of the five year economic plan would likely approve.

The cutting taxes part is one of the few areas Trump has not bungled (largely by taking a step back and letting congress do the dirty work). My opinion is mixed on this one as it has led to positive investment decisions by corporate holders of the purse strings, but increasing deficits will one day lead to a "settling of the books" lest the dollar lose out as the dominant international currency. What do you think the chances are that Pauls of today who are benefiting the most will offer to pay back Peter tomorrow? Any honest answer leads to a smaller government budget and the feudelists will continue to benefit as they do today.This debate could go on and on as unfortunately there are many "facts" that one can massage to support their view, but an objective look of the outlook based on realistic probabilities does not support the current path that Trump is taking as sustainable.

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