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Old 31st Mar 2019, 05:26
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Originally Posted by FlyinColo View Post
So I see that Cathay is doing direct entry FOs if you have 1000+ airline hours. Does that mean when second officers upgrade they'll keep pushing me down in seniority or is each position independent?
Amazing! Within a few responses the thread has disintegrated into a cesspit of personal abuse! If you’re thinking about joining, the responses seen here and elsewhere on Fragrant Harbour should give you an idea of the type of people you’ll be flying with. Luckily not all are like that, but the atmosphere is toxic in the extreme. And before anyone wades in with the old “the company started it” line, we are all supposed to be professionals and we are tasked with upholding the integrity of our profession, no one can take that from us. We are personally responsible for our behaviour irrespective of anonymity.

1.If appointed a seniority number, DEFOs etc cannot jump you on the list.
2. You do NOT get any choice of which fleet you join on. They may politely ask your preference but the ONLY time in your CX career that you get a choice is at command upgrade, nowhere in the CoS does it say otherwise.

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Old 5th Apr 2019, 16:14
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Originally Posted by CyberT View Post

Don’t listen to the whining on here. Some people are never happy.
expect about 30,000+ USD a month + a 4 bedroom apartment in town. All kids education paid for. Time to Jumbo command about two and a half years.
Atmosphere is great, no industrial talk, expect to party with the cabin crew on numerous overnights. Great hotels. Fantastic rosters with lifestyle options other airlines can only dream of. The base of your choice probably about 3 years down the line and you can remain on base with absolute security. Strict adherence to local law is observed.
Super management with a safety orientated, powerful vision for the future.
Great package ( especially for new joiners, POS18 is fantastic) Great career airline. Clever articulate GM’s and directors. The GMA is amazing and you couldn’t ask for better leadership, especially from our parent group. We also have a great union, but not really needed because of quality management.
Fantastic annual bonus formula. (Huge this year)
whats not to like?
Of course the usual suspects will appear with nothing but complaints, ignore them. Judge for yourself.

30,000 USD per year I guess....
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 02:59
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Originally Posted by petrichor View Post

... but the ONLY time in your CX career that you get a choice is at command upgrade, nowhere in the CoS does it say otherwise.

This option disappeared over 5 years ago when PH was the GMA - ask a 747 FO

The fleet you are given on day one can determine your entire career and overtime in CX - ask a 777 pilot
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Old 6th Apr 2019, 06:07
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Considering they have only found 2 defos stupid enough to join on cos18 and are putting them on the 747 (for life) I can see why not one in the right mind would come. Its a temp job at the most for those who came in cos08, probably half of those who are left (several training fails, downgrades, and resignations) are named and shamed every time they set foot by a JFO or SO.
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