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Old 28th May 2017, 01:03
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Some S/Os were eligible to be fast tracked to JF/O so they will appear as F/O on the seniority list. They aren't DEFO.
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Old 28th May 2017, 04:11
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Is there a hiring ban in place?

If not, then STFU and grow a pair.

The reality of the situation is this spineless pilot group has consistently allowed the employment of pilots under lesser terms.

S/Os
ASL
DEFOs
DECs

Don't treat these guys like garbage because you didn't have the insight to see whay was really happening and then lacked the fortitude to do anything about it.
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Old 28th May 2017, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Average Fool View Post
Is there a hiring ban in place?

If not, then STFU and grow a pair.

The reality of the situation is this spineless pilot group has consistently allowed the employment of pilots under lesser terms.

S/Os
ASL
DEFOs
DECs

Don't treat these guys like garbage because you didn't have the insight to see whay was really happening and then lacked the fortitude to do anything about it.
Fair points, but I think it is also appropriate for DEFOs to know what they are stepping into at CX. They certainly won't get the straight scoop from the Company.
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Old 28th May 2017, 16:30
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Agree 100%

What an utter disgrace that this company flat out lies to prospective employees (and current employees) to lure them into the job.
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Old 29th May 2017, 01:31
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You mean like bases, 13th month, and profit share?
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Old 29th May 2017, 02:39
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....we have a 'bingo'.... (and oh boy is the complete list a long one)
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Old 29th May 2017, 03:21
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I would love to know what they are actually telling people.
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:34
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Originally Posted by Average Fool View Post
I would love to know what they are actually telling people.
"Time to Win!"
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Old 31st May 2017, 02:54
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DE FO status

Just wondering - are we to consider DE FO's as "Brushwingers" ❓❓

At this Time To Win phase of CX's evolution, things such as this are very important

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Old 31st May 2017, 05:56
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I would call them "Gearpullers" as they are not good at anything else.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 14:33
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So anybody got any feedback on the DEFO interview?

Cheers!
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 03:34
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Has an actual DEFO been hired?

Hard to tell on the seniority list with eligible SOs being fast tracked to JFO.
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 04:07
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A few have been hired, hard to say how many though
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 05:04
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I heard 8.

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Old 12th Jul 2017, 22:35
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Originally Posted by boxjockey View Post
I heard 8.

box
I knew one from HKA joined this month, type rated HK licence & no work visa problem !
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 09:06
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They don't need as many now, 2 second officers on long haul flights to begin.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 09:39
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Bound to delay the upgrade of B777 SOs
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 10:49
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Qantas have been doing 2 Second Officers for years. Their upgrade time can be decades..

SO, No housing, No bases, No upgrades and No flying for many many years. Might be a few more junior guys heading off soon then
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:54
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Aren't the elligable SOs being fast tracked directly to FO? They skip the JFO stage Don't they?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 15:56
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Aren't the elligable SOs being fast tracked directly to FO? They skip the JFO stage don't they?
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