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Going back a touch regards what instructors get paid. recently returned from USA where i was charged $35 hour for ground instruction (which lasted 2 hours for bi-annual check and same for 1 1/2 hours flying i.e. total of $122.50.(£80)plus tax).
Two of us were done at same time and charged the same.
How much of this does the instructor get?
Any US instructors wish to enlighten me.
The average UK instructor probably would get £15-25 for the flying and nothing for ground instruction ( might get a tenner for turning up).
Also some of the Police flying i have seen at my former home airfield would leave much to be desired as good example.
I having personally witnessed a tail strike as a machine was being demoed at a family day.
Two of us were done at same time and charged the same.
How much of this does the instructor get?
Any US instructors wish to enlighten me.
The average UK instructor probably would get £15-25 for the flying and nothing for ground instruction ( might get a tenner for turning up).
Also some of the Police flying i have seen at my former home airfield would leave much to be desired as good example.
I having personally witnessed a tail strike as a machine was being demoed at a family day.
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Obs, I'm not sure if there is a deadline on when the pre-course test must be taken. (If I'm wrong could somebody please correct me.)
However you must have flown 5 hrs SEP in the previous 6 months before starting the course.
(This is all from memory as I don't have my LASORS with me.)
RodgerF has a good suggestion Baldwim, let us know how you get on.
The rates for FI's are variable, from £10/Hr upto £20/Hr for ab-initio PPL. More if teaching CPL, I/R etc...(closer to £30-35/Hr) Definately not riches! Full time guy's will often get a retainer, less likely as a part-timer. This does all depend on the school.
However you must have flown 5 hrs SEP in the previous 6 months before starting the course.
(This is all from memory as I don't have my LASORS with me.)
RodgerF has a good suggestion Baldwim, let us know how you get on.
The rates for FI's are variable, from £10/Hr upto £20/Hr for ab-initio PPL. More if teaching CPL, I/R etc...(closer to £30-35/Hr) Definately not riches! Full time guy's will often get a retainer, less likely as a part-timer. This does all depend on the school.
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---The average UK instructor probably would get £15-25 for the flying and nothing for ground instruction ( might get a tener for turning up).----
WHAT?????? ---- In your dreams Ol Mate. Where do you fly Cloud Cuckoo land airport !!!!!!!
In the SE of UK
1 If you are part time FI even with 5000hrs, £10 per hr flown and if you teach a formal ground school £10 per hour
2 Full time New boy maybe £10 per day attendance plus £10 per hr flown, but you have to do the Hrs books and A/c cleaning and anything other the boos requires
3 CFI £20 per day plus £10 Hr flown.
The hours flown rate gets better closer to London may be up to £13 to £15.
However its the best Job in the world even when you get the pratt PPL who knows it all. Because in the end you can help sort him/her out and maybe they will learn to love flying as mush as you do.
On the really good days you get to see your student do greaser solo glide approaches then go around when he gets cut up by same pratt ppl, then go around again from a high hold off then finish it with another greaser glide app . He comes in real happy thinks your God cause he sorted it all out and knew how to do it because you taught him
The money is not the reason to do, do because you love flying and teaching.
WHAT?????? ---- In your dreams Ol Mate. Where do you fly Cloud Cuckoo land airport !!!!!!!
In the SE of UK
1 If you are part time FI even with 5000hrs, £10 per hr flown and if you teach a formal ground school £10 per hour
2 Full time New boy maybe £10 per day attendance plus £10 per hr flown, but you have to do the Hrs books and A/c cleaning and anything other the boos requires
3 CFI £20 per day plus £10 Hr flown.
The hours flown rate gets better closer to London may be up to £13 to £15.
However its the best Job in the world even when you get the pratt PPL who knows it all. Because in the end you can help sort him/her out and maybe they will learn to love flying as mush as you do.
On the really good days you get to see your student do greaser solo glide approaches then go around when he gets cut up by same pratt ppl, then go around again from a high hold off then finish it with another greaser glide app . He comes in real happy thinks your God cause he sorted it all out and knew how to do it because you taught him
The money is not the reason to do, do because you love flying and teaching.
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The next major decision for me is which exams to take. My primary aim is to instruct as I have to say I want to enjoy my flying.
However, quite a few airlines take staff from the pools of flying instructors and so here is the dilema.
I am looking at just doing CPL exams since it is unlikely I would have the funding to complete an IR within the 3 year time limit of the ATPL's. Hence I figure, the ATPL's would largely be wasted compared to my aims.
However, am I being too limiting here? Without ATPL's or IR exams, I cannot complete an IR to fly IFR and thus am limited to instruction, aerial photo's etc. The price difference is marginal at £300 or so, but the time difference is significant.
Ah, choices, choices,
Any wise words fellow prooners?
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However, quite a few airlines take staff from the pools of flying instructors and so here is the dilema.
I am looking at just doing CPL exams since it is unlikely I would have the funding to complete an IR within the 3 year time limit of the ATPL's. Hence I figure, the ATPL's would largely be wasted compared to my aims.
However, am I being too limiting here? Without ATPL's or IR exams, I cannot complete an IR to fly IFR and thus am limited to instruction, aerial photo's etc. The price difference is marginal at £300 or so, but the time difference is significant.
Ah, choices, choices,
Any wise words fellow prooners?
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For the sake of £300 and a few extra weeks, it gives you more options. It doesn't force you to follow them up. For me it would be a no-brainer .....
I appreciate what you say about the IR, however if you wanted to move onto commercial instruction at Oxford for example, an IR would undoubtedly be helpful.
I appreciate what you say about the IR, however if you wanted to move onto commercial instruction at Oxford for example, an IR would undoubtedly be helpful.
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From a slightly different angle, does anyone know what someone with an ATPL (A) but has not flown a light aircraft for 7 years would have to do to get an Instructor Rating? Any ideas how much it would cost?
I'd be interested in part-time PPL instruction, maybe 1 or 2 days a week - not for the cash, obviously!!
I'd be interested in part-time PPL instruction, maybe 1 or 2 days a week - not for the cash, obviously!!