More Swissport Redundancies??
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Looks like TOM will be joining SPT very soon. My father is an ex-captain for TOM and still gets consulted on certain issues. According to him the deal with SPT is getting very close to being signed.
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If this is the case some stations would require major reorganisation, BHX is a prime example. SPT are pushed to deliver the service at present so a major charter customer buisness addition would in my humble opinion be unworkable, they would have to lose Flybe to cope.
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Unless your Dad was Management for TOM, I know that the company don't contact ex crew members on issues!
I don't know who you are, but it seems like you're pretending to be someone else......
So come on, who are you and who's your Daddy?!
Unless your Dad was Management for TOM, I know that the company don't contact ex crew members on issues!
I don't know who you are, but it seems like you're pretending to be someone else......
So come on, who are you and who's your Daddy?!
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i would not sign swissport up to look after my cat......if thomson sign for swissport to handle them,they should sack the bloke that puts his name on the paper.
most nights at STN when the thomson lands,the pilot has lost the will to live by the time chocks and steps turn up.
come on thomson see the light....sign with a real handling agent like SERVISAIR......they where never that bad on there worst day.
most nights at STN when the thomson lands,the pilot has lost the will to live by the time chocks and steps turn up.
come on thomson see the light....sign with a real handling agent like SERVISAIR......they where never that bad on there worst day.
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come on thomson see the light....sign with a real handling agent like SERVISAIR......
come on thomson see the light....sign with a real handling agent like SERVISAIR......they where never that bad on there worst day.
Hmmmmmm.....is that the same servisair that did'nt know how to put steps onto a freighter correctly recently?
is this the same servisair that repeatedly miss loads the aegean?
is this the same servisair that has just lost the aurigney contract?
I think most airlines know just how bad servisair CAN be on their worst day!!!!
Hmmmmmm.....is that the same servisair that did'nt know how to put steps onto a freighter correctly recently?
is this the same servisair that repeatedly miss loads the aegean?
is this the same servisair that has just lost the aurigney contract?
I think most airlines know just how bad servisair CAN be on their worst day!!!!
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i am not saying that servisar get it right all the time........a swissport guy told me only yesterday that they are looking to get rid of 140 men from STN....what will the service be like then....i dont think it will be better.
lets get a few ryanair pilots on here telling us how long they sit on the taxiway waiting for some ramp bods to turn up with chocks and steps in the evenings.
as for the aurigney contract it's most likely that will be done on the cheap yet again....which brings us back to....you get what you pay for.
and as for the wrong steps on the cargo plane....are you sure it was not the wrong plane on the steps.
lets get a few ryanair pilots on here telling us how long they sit on the taxiway waiting for some ramp bods to turn up with chocks and steps in the evenings.
as for the aurigney contract it's most likely that will be done on the cheap yet again....which brings us back to....you get what you pay for.
and as for the wrong steps on the cargo plane....are you sure it was not the wrong plane on the steps.
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Thomsom moving??? Contract isn't up until some time next spring so even if they do move it won't be anytime soon. Be interesting to see the results of the Servisair vs Swissport Challenge that TOM have been running this summer
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All I will say on this is, don't be to suprised when TOM announce they have changed HA agent. The only holdback at the moment for both parties is the pending SPT industrial action.
Also TOM do not want to annouce to early as they know that the already poor performance from servisair will get even poorer. They do not want to drop to the bottom of the priority list when multiple a/c land.
Also TOM do not want to annouce to early as they know that the already poor performance from servisair will get even poorer. They do not want to drop to the bottom of the priority list when multiple a/c land.
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most nights at STN when the thomson lands,the pilot has lost the will to live by the time chocks and steps turn up
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most nights at STN when the thomson lands,the pilot has lost the will to live by the time chocks and steps turn up
With Swissport/Thomson stats running at 97% swissport must be doing something right.
With Swissport/Thomson stats running at 97% swissport must be doing something right.
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dearest grizzler,you appear to be suffering a severe case of back pedaling.First you talk about servisair not being as bad as.......then you admit that they dont always get it right.Then you realise you've messed up with thomson and start having a pop about ryanair,and as for the wrong plane on the steps..............is this indicative of the calibre of staff left at servisair.Oh dear,oh dear,oh dear.
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Agreed Groundhog, I heard the very same from a very reliable source re the contract tender yesterday, having said that a lot of people at Swissport including departmental managers are convinced the pen has been dipped into the inkwell ready to sign on the dotted line.....amazing!
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messed up with the thomson...never
in all the time servisair did the thomson at STN i cant remember the bags leaving the plane 1 hour and 6 mins after it had landed....so i must say swissport have that record.....what happend to the forty min bag time.
if the pen is poised to sign contracts.....then he must have his guide dog tied up outside.
and is it true that swissport look like loosing £2.5 million....so they will be cutting back on there stationary and uniform costs,all overtime to be paid at flat rate...possible reduction in salary and pay towards car parking or you can use the bus.......and save more money by putting turkish cargo up the baggage belt maybe....whoops.....if this was somebody they would be on life support
and please come up with something better than wrong steps....at least it got some!!!!!!!! maybe even the agnis was on and chocks waiting.
mishandled maxjet....which day was that then.
and as for back pedaling....no....but maybe a bit of free wheeling.
if the pen is poised to sign contracts.....then he must have his guide dog tied up outside.
and is it true that swissport look like loosing £2.5 million....so they will be cutting back on there stationary and uniform costs,all overtime to be paid at flat rate...possible reduction in salary and pay towards car parking or you can use the bus.......and save more money by putting turkish cargo up the baggage belt maybe....whoops.....if this was somebody they would be on life support
and please come up with something better than wrong steps....at least it got some!!!!!!!! maybe even the agnis was on and chocks waiting.
mishandled maxjet....which day was that then.
and as for back pedaling....no....but maybe a bit of free wheeling.
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Good morning Mr Vine, I believe the same was said about US Airways and KLM/Air France. The first came to Servisair and the later almost followed. It would be nice to know what poor performance Legalize is eluding to, things don't always go to plan (especially with some of the tech problems TOM have had lately) but no one from the airline has passed on any problems to us that would indicate any cause for concern. I will check the stats when I get time but I would seriously doubt that OTP from a station point of view is anything other than good (it would be excellent but none of us are perfect).
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Swissport Get TOM more like Portsmouth to win the premership just cant see it happening.... Must admit Servisair far better company than swissport. I hear the new station manager at BHX for swissport knows as much about aviation than dennis bergkamp does er that will be nothing stick to playing with your trains!!!!.
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you must tell me more, i did quite a few turnrounds myself on maxjet and dont recall having to wright any reports out to why they went wrong????
like i said what day did it happen,i must have been off.
i should think problems incurred where due to the aircraft being a flying scrapyards....nothing to do with the handling agent.
like i said what day did it happen,i must have been off.
i should think problems incurred where due to the aircraft being a flying scrapyards....nothing to do with the handling agent.
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please elaborate on mishandled????? i am fully aware of what mishandled means but in the case of this contract please come forward and say more!
how about we start at the changes that would be made during the course of the day, the airplane would be loaded only for it to be changed onto another aircraft and then onto another completely aircraft,i dont call that mishandled!
what about the endless towing carried out,there was more movement on the ground with towing than movement from the aircraft being in the air!
the aircraft was often towed onto stand for it only to go tech and then be towed back, an aircraft change would be made and no one would no that the change that was being made was also onto a tech aircraft!
theres a start,i would not say mishandled at all,the handling agent only carried out that was asked of them,but as always when it goes wrong the blame is thrown at the handling agent!
i have seen a few people over the years quick to blame because they have not had the broad shoulders to accept responsibilty themselves for their own decisions and judgements partly because they have been in the business 5 mins!and never had a full working and understanding of all aspects of airline ground handling!
you obviously no more than enough so please come forward with some more,be interesting to hear!
please elaborate on mishandled????? i am fully aware of what mishandled means but in the case of this contract please come forward and say more!
how about we start at the changes that would be made during the course of the day, the airplane would be loaded only for it to be changed onto another aircraft and then onto another completely aircraft,i dont call that mishandled!
what about the endless towing carried out,there was more movement on the ground with towing than movement from the aircraft being in the air!
the aircraft was often towed onto stand for it only to go tech and then be towed back, an aircraft change would be made and no one would no that the change that was being made was also onto a tech aircraft!
theres a start,i would not say mishandled at all,the handling agent only carried out that was asked of them,but as always when it goes wrong the blame is thrown at the handling agent!
i have seen a few people over the years quick to blame because they have not had the broad shoulders to accept responsibilty themselves for their own decisions and judgements partly because they have been in the business 5 mins!and never had a full working and understanding of all aspects of airline ground handling!
you obviously no more than enough so please come forward with some more,be interesting to hear!
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Legalize, I thought you of all people would have heard. At the end of last week all I was hearing from Swissport staff was about their new Station Manager who starts in 2 weeks, apparently ex Railtrack/Network Rail