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VS-LHRCSA 6th Nov 2007 19:49

Flower Duet, it is no problem for you to take a suitcase to training with you. A lot of crew bring luggage when doing recurrent training, so it's not out of the ordinary.

I used to treat myself to a room at the Meridien in the north terminal (I believe it's called something else now, arora perhaps?) and i used to pay around £70. Not bad for a night. If you are after longer term accommodation during training, you can get a BnB for around £30. You will need to search the accommodation threads here and cabincrew.com

cheers

GODDESS OF DAWN 6th Nov 2007 19:50

Thanks Flower Duet
 
I'm so chuffed.... ;)

kraze 6th Nov 2007 20:20

not sure how to get to the training centre by foot
 
hey there

just started reading up on this forum and how i would've benefitted if i knew it existed beforehand!!

am starting my training on the 19th and i was wondering if anyone has good directions on how to get to the LGW training centre from s. terminal? i can't get any good maps and i dont want to get lost on my first day!!

also, does anyone know how long the walk roughly takes?

any help would be great!! thanks

missdoo 6th Nov 2007 21:32

Dawn,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It must be AMAZING to finally get a course date, can't imagine the joy. Im VERY happy for you!!!!!!!

I'll just keep swimming. I know you'll be very busy once you start training but if you get a spare moment keep in touch!!! I'll be here drowning!!!

Congratulations again, you'll have an absolutely fantastic Christmas!!!!:D

SuperBoy 7th Nov 2007 09:55

Baboi,

I had not read your reply to me on page 13. I have now.

You make alot of assumptions, some might happen some not. As you I to hope for various things too happen but no matter how hard we want it or how hard we believe or how hard we fight for that belief it is not up to you and me.

We will have to agree to disagree on a few things but thats life.

Also I never stated that LHR EF works on seniority. It does work on a rotation very much like the leave groups. It is a little more complex than that but that is what it boils down to. You do not have to believe me get in contact with RB or AB and they will merely confirm what I had said.

Simply,

I am speechless. LGW SF not in the NSP? You have a contact??? I will refrain from posting what I actually think but by your misguided attempt to educate those who clearly have the facts which you clearly do not or have escaped you one can only assume that you are not an employee of BA. If you are, well I'll leave it at that.

Happy! 7th Nov 2007 13:20

Ww Lhr Temp
 
Hi,

Was just wondering if any of the successful temps had received course dates yet?

xx

the letter 7th Nov 2007 14:51

I have! December 17:th!

Happy! 7th Nov 2007 15:55

Lhr WW Temps
 
Well done! Bet you can't wait to start :). When was your interview date? I had mine on the 5th October but no course date as of yet :ooh:. Hope it all goes well for you and perhaps our paths will cross at some point!

xx

flyer55 7th Nov 2007 17:37

LGW SF is part of the NSP as of 1st Oct 2006, it was a condition of the new fleet being setup

missdoo 7th Nov 2007 20:02

Ef Holding Pool
 
Hey guys,

has any external applicant from the EF holding pool been given a course yet??????? I'm starting to get excited and worried.

kikko 7th Nov 2007 21:47

Gooddes & Missdoo
 
Goddess CONGRATLAAAAATIOOOOOOOONS!!!!!
We are all happy for you and this gives us breathless swimmers some hope.

Missdoo NO NEWS for us yet (even if you phone up, ypu get the same reply..."Don't worry you will be contacetd in due time when courses will be available...bla..bla..")
I am sure or at least I hope that as soon as they call the external we'll get the news ...lets hope for the best!!!!

annaspanner 8th Nov 2007 06:11

LHR WW temps!!- Happy
 
No I am still waiting too!! Had my interview on the 08th October. Hope we hear something soon... this is killing me !!!!

Aussie_Pilot 8th Nov 2007 07:03

Hello to everybody I've heard that BA Short Haul is now recruting people for the next Spring-Summer season?
have someone heard this as well?

What do you guys reccomand to a wannabe who's going to apply for his first airline job? someone told me is better to target small airlines 'coz the biggest generally prefer people who have alredy flight experience...

Suggestion Welcome and forgive me for any mistake, I'm a bit in a rush!

annaspanner 8th Nov 2007 07:41

Aussie Pilot
 
I myself have no previous experience but was successful with BA so I dont really think it makes a massive difference is my opinion. I know people who have had previous experience but still didnt make it so it really is all about you, your personality, willingness to learn and work as part of a team. Good luck to you !!!

GODDESS OF DAWN 8th Nov 2007 08:47

Kikko and Misdoo
 
Thanks !!!

IM SO EXCITED!!!!

:):):):)

Good luck to you too. :ok:

HZ123 8th Nov 2007 09:06

2010 and beyond
 
It is not much help or encouragement to you lovely people but BA will need to recruit an additional 5000 + CC for the introduction of the A380 aircraft. Plans are being drawn up with a view to commencing employment this time next year as it is a requirement to have at least half of this number operational by 2009. it is hoped that the surplus of CC can be offset by offering incentive style career breaks / more part time etc. The good news is even that is not that far away. Other plans will require a dedicated CC training establishment breaking away from Flight deck totally. The centre could of course be anywhere in the UK with the provision of an EU development grant.

Happy! 8th Nov 2007 11:02

WW Temps - Anna Spanner
 
:) I know me too its so frustrating that some have had courses and others haven't! Heres to hoping we hear something soon, have you spoken to recruitment since your interview? I wonder how many of us there are awaiting dates? Keep in touch fingers crossed we might get the same date.

xxx

annaspanner 8th Nov 2007 13:28

Happy LHR WW temp
 
I have called twice now as in the interview it seemed they were desparate for us to begin as they were so short staffed but they cannot tell me anything. Just have to wait suppose !! x

Happy! 8th Nov 2007 15:33

Anna Spanner WW Lhr
 
Hi Anna,

Yes I got that impression too and thought that we'd starting asap?! I'm wondering if its going to be after January now as some people have been given January course dates.

xx

G-GMGH 8th Nov 2007 22:59

LHR EF Holding Pool Member
 
Hi Guys,
Congratulations to Dawn on getting your course date! I'm an external candidate waiting in the LHR EF Holding Pool (my interview took place in May 07). I have read with great interest over the last few months Dawn's, and other people's posts regarding recruitment at BA - and they're definately pretty hard to get in to aren't they!

Having not worked in the Aviation Industry before, I am amazed at how determined you people are. I'm looking forward to, hopefully, getting my chance to work with such a great airline. I'll continue to check for updates here, and post any update of my situation.

Kind regards, and good luck to you all.
G-GMGH

Londonphilou 9th Nov 2007 00:42

The wait goes on..
 
Lets hope its our turn soon for the external candidates in the EF pool. Last 2 weeks have been for internal and reployed staff. May be next week for us?? ;)

missdoo 9th Nov 2007 11:21

Ef Holding Pool
 
Hi Londonphilou!!

I was wondering what happened to you, you were quiet for a while, now I know you've been away. Your post made me feel optimistic again!!! The fact they said to make sure to have phones on and check emails surely has to be a possitive sign!!! Then again, maybe Im reading too much into this... Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see!!!!!

Flower Duet. 9th Nov 2007 13:27

Hangar 6 (Training Centre)
 
Hi Guys ,

looking for the address for Hangar 6 ?
As I have booked into the ibis Hotel for two weeks and need to know
how long is the bus ride / walk ?

Kind Regards and thank you :ok:

B747dreamer 9th Nov 2007 13:52

BA recruitment
 
Hi Everyone

Just a simple question I noticed that BA are recruiting for Cabin Crew for Gatwick.

The requirements are that you have to hold GCSE Maths. I thought this requirement had been dropped as it wasn't listed on the previous recruitment.

I have a degree and language skills just never passed the old O Level in Maths as they were.

Would really appreciate any information from someone who's in the company, as i would really like a career in the company and would ilke to do the job.

Thanks

VS-LHRCSA 9th Nov 2007 14:16

Put your education details in the application as honestly as you can. If you are invited to an interview, just bring your degree with you. You have been upfront with them, so if they've invited you to an interview then they can make the judgement on the day.

Londonphilou 9th Nov 2007 14:25

Missdoo
 
Hi Missdoo.
Yes I was on holidays for a month on a tropical island..until yesterday.
I rang BA on Tuesday pm and told them I am an external candidate waiting for an EF course and that I have heard that some people have been offered dates already and whether they have been trying to get hold of me. I did not have much access to the internet there plus sometimes not good mobile phone reception. The lady asked for my name etc and did some checks on the computer and then she told me that no one has got in touch with me and thats when she told me to leave my phone on all the time and also check my emails regularly...She did not emphasized that only internal and redeployed staff were being contacted. So in a way that was a bit of reassurance that we might be called soon. But then again we wont know until we really get THAT call. Lets hope we do very soon.

BA Boi 9th Nov 2007 21:37

SuperBoy,

as i have stated before, you are incorrect about LHR EF trip bidding 'rotating success' - this applies only to annual leave, i do not need to phone any scheduling managers to clarify this.
anyway, BASSA would have never accepted the system in that guise in anycase.
that's simply all there is to it i'm afraid.

and with regards the WW LHR groundstaff temps, as you correctly say that it is my oppinion (which i have reiterated on several occassions), however i think that i shall be proven correct come the spring of 2008.

i now graciously bow out of this topic.

:}.

smiler23 10th Nov 2007 11:39

BA - where do you fly?
 
I notice BA are recruiting for LGW. Where will the crew be flying? Will it be short haul or a mixture of short and long haul?
I head that if you get in with BA you have to fly short haul for 2 years and then you can apply to be transferred to long haul? Is this true? If you fly long haul for another airline can you go straight to long haul with BA?

VS-LHRCSA 10th Nov 2007 12:06

This has been covered many, many times over but for what it's worth:

The flying you do depends on the fleet you are recruited for. At the moment, the company is recruiting for LGW which is a mixture of short haul and long routes on the 737 and 777.

Long haul routes are:

Tampa, Orlando, Altanta, Kingston, Bermuda (shuttle to Port of Spain), Barbados and Antigua (shuttle to St.Lucia, Grenada and Tobago). Houston and Dallas will have moved up to LHR before the next batch of new entrants are trained.

Short haul trips will vary from day trips of 2-4 sectors to 3 day multi sector trips. Please correct me if I have this wrong.

You have to wait for two years before putting your name on a transfer list. After that, it could be a 3-5 year wait (5-7 years in total) before actually achieving the transfer, depending on your seniority.

With hundreds of people on transfer lists waiting to get to long haul at LHR, it is unlikely that they will recruit directly from outside, at least on a permanent basis. In the last two years, they have recruited temporary crew for long haul in 3 different campaigns. Most of these crew ended up at LGW. None of them remained at LHR on long haul.

It's important to note that BA will not recruit anyone directly into a particular fleet or rank just because a candidate has prior experience. There are very strict transfer and promotions protocols that are part of the terms and conditions agreed with the relevant unions.

the letter 10th Nov 2007 13:58

But they could recruit for permanent basis to LHR EF again, couldn't they?

VS-LHRCSA 10th Nov 2007 14:30

In principle, yes. Different parties would like to see a process of ensuring that all new entrants start at LGW only but until an agreement is formalised (as far as I know this hasn't happened but I am happy to be corrected) then the company can recruit for EF if it needs to.

Once the transfer agreements for LGW-LHR are in place then the company would have a hard time being able to recruit directly into EF. I wouldn't be surprised if they resorted to using EF temps again - in a similar way to how the WW temps have been utilised.

SuperBoy 10th Nov 2007 15:18

Ba Boi,

No matter how many times you say it, it will not make it true. Your counter argument has nothing to do with the bidding system but merely "BASSA wouldn't allow it" That unfortunately does not suffice. I am sure I don't have to tell you to back your statements up with facts not emotional convictions. Also If you think AB is a scheduling manager then this discussion is rather pointless. We will have to agree to disagree.

As for the WW Temps. You are right we will have to see but as you have mentioned BASSA. Do you really think BASSA will allow temps to be kept on on WW permanently??? Yes they might be offered a position else where in the company. Although that would contradict what every manager has said at all the various forums. As always BA will do what it can within the restrictions placed on it and yes they will try to get away with alot more.

I have had various discussion with STS, SS and MG wrt recruitment, future plans etc. etc. I know what I know because it came straight from the horses mouth.

If you can invalidate any of my arguments, please do try.

Ps. Please do not bow out on my behalf. Believe me Fiction proclaimed as fact always makes for interesting reading but as you correctly stated we will have to wait and see.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 11th Nov 2007 10:59

How long will it take / Colchester to LGW
 
I was thinking of aplying for CC at LGW, I live in Colchester Essex,
how long would it take to get to LGW ? it says you have to be able to
get to LGW in 90mins.

HZ123 11th Nov 2007 11:14

That length of journey would be fine, anyway most of the interviewers have never heard of Essex. Get your application off today.

Channex101 11th Nov 2007 16:01

I'm appling... or have applied rather and I live in NCL, crew commute from all over the country and a few places in Europe, im sure Essex wont be a problem

DONTTELLTHEPAX 11th Nov 2007 16:10

channex
 
If this is true why do the state that you need to live with-in 90min
of the airport ?

VS-LHRCSA 11th Nov 2007 16:55

You need to be able to report to your base (in this case, LGW) within 90 minutes if you are on Home Standby. In theory, you are meant to be within 90 minutes from base but in practice they don't mind if you live further away so long as you can fulfill your standby obligations. They also specifiy 90 mins because of issues such as training and meetings where you are needed on base. People who do live away may complain about having to make a trip for, say a one day manual handling course, or a one-hour meeting. The company can come back with "you are meant to live local, it's not our fault if you live away".

Plenty of crew commute. For standbys, they just stay with friends, at BnBs or even drive to a Motorway services centre 90 mins away from LGW and sit around all day with their mobile.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 11th Nov 2007 17:19

Thanks for that, I live in Colchester I think it would take about 1hr 45mins
so what the hell I'll give it a go.:ok:


Just a quick question, how much can a newbee expect to take home and
how much do you get whilst trainning ?

VS-LHRCSA 11th Nov 2007 17:35

Well basic is around the £10K mark, so that should leave around £650 after tax. That is what you would earn while training. The website says you will earn around £500 in flight pay, which from what I've heard is about right. It all depends on how you bid. I think most people would agree take home pay is around £1100 per month, maybe more. I'm certainly open to correction on this however. Go for it anyway, DTTP. I believe now is going to be a really exiting time to join the company.

blueskybird 12th Nov 2007 12:58

Holdpool people
 
hello to all my fellow 'swimmers' :}:}
i was just wondering if anyone in the holdpools (external candidates) have been contacted with regards to any new course training dates for 2008, LHR or LGWSF?? :confused::confused::confused:

lets hope we all get some good news soon!!


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