Hang in There
 

I am a trainer, dont confess to know-it-all but you may be glad to hear there is a rumour of a big campaign for LHR E/F in the new year.

With ex GB routes AGP and FAO coming to mainline LHR combined with the fact we are short of crew anyway (overtime galore at the moment) this looks likely.

I wish you luck and may even see you in the classrooms!

Hey speedmarque,
Don't suppose you know if any of these courses might be for LGW transfers do you? Was told at a F2F course last week that transfers would be available for LGW crew next year. Even if it's just a rumour would love to know if you have heard anything. Cheers!
T :ok:

Speedmarque and Dawn,

Thanks for the words of encouragement!!! That EF LHR campaign next year that you mentioned does give me a glimpse of hope, although I do know that nothing is ever certain... Keep swimming everyone and we might one day meet Speedmarque in class!!!!

Speedmarque
 

Thanks for the glimmer of hope.....

Hanging by a thread.

DAWN :)

Franchise Announcement
 

To all those still swimming you might be glad/sad to see below but looks like LGW might be the next main recruitment drive.....



British Airways is to end its franchise agreements with both GB
Airways and Loganair.


>From March 2008 BA plans to start services on some of the routes


operated under the GB Airways franchise, while British Airways' code
will be placed on Loganair flights when that franchise ends on October
25, 2008.


Chief executive Willie Walsh said: "UK franchises have outlived their
purpose for British Airways. easyJet has made an offer to buy GB
Airways and this has enabled us to end the franchise agreement two
years early. We have an option to buy GB Airways but we rejected it.
We have a significant base at Gatwick and our focus will be on
maintaining and developing it as an integral part of our business.

"Regrettably the loss of ground handling activity for GB Airways at
Gatwick will mean a reduction in staff numbers. We want to achieve
these reductions using voluntary means and will be discussing this
will the trade unions."

There will be a transition period until March 29, 2008 during which GB
Airways will continue to operate as BA's franchise partner on their
existing network to destinations in Europe and North Africa.
British Airways is committed to ensuring a smooth transition for
passengers during this period. Customers will be able to rebook onto
easyJet or get a refund.

I'm not too sure about whether this will in fact mean further recruitment at LGW in the near future.

If BA are actually looking at serving additional cities such as FAO and AGP they would either need more aircraft or will reduce frequencies to other cities or even pull out of some altogether.

The fact the Mr Walsh has mentioned voluntary redundancies amongst their ground crew at LGW makes me think that no further aircraft will join the existing LGW fleet to replace the GB aircraft, which will mean no need to add to existing crew numbers. The overall capacity at LGW will remain as it is but will be spread over more destinations.

holding pool EF
 

There's another category of swimmers... actually deep sea divers!!

People like me who had their July interviews cancelled....

Now on hold until June/July08...

Hope they'll remember us........

when the Dallas and Houston routes move up to the WorldWide Fleet at LHR in March '08 that will leave a (temporary (see below)) 'surplus' of a couple of hundred crew, at the most, at SF LGW.

however, with the announcement last month of new routes from LGW to Antalya etc, and increases in MCO services along with the new announcement of the ex-GB routes (that all, coincidentally, occour at around the same time as the DFW and IAH routes leave LGW) that the airline will be commencing, that will mean that ALOT/MOST/ALL of the 'surplus' crew left over from the removed DFW and IAH routes will be needed to crew these new services.

i, therefore, do not forsee the need for a 'huge' new recruitment drive - nor the rumoured 'mass' crew transfers up to LHR from LGW.
although i do believe that some crew will be released from LGW to LHR at some point next year.
i predict around the middle of the summer.

Lhr Ef January Courses?!?
 

I've read on the other c. crew forum that internal applicants ( redeployed???) in the LHR EF hold pool have today received a call from BA offering them courses in January?

Does anybody know anything about that? Has anybody been offered a course date?......Pleeeease let us know something...!!!
We are now in November and I believe that if there is something in in the pot somebody here should know....

Thanks to all xoxoxoxo

Re: EF Hold Pool - BA Redeployed staff
 

:eek: I can't believe it.... :eek:

They have not called me yet but I will certainly let you know when and if I get a call.

Fingers crossed for all Hold Poolers including external.

Hanging by a thread......


:D DAWN

Hey Dawn

Are you redeployed staff or external? Have you been called yet?

xxxx

Hi Missdoo - Re LHREF hold pool
 

I am BA re-deployed staff and no I have not been called yet.

Anxiously waiting for a call..... :eek:

Heard another rumour regarding those temps recruited (both external and internal) for LHR WW. They will be offered permanent positions at LHR EF upon completion of their contracts. Congrats to all of you!

yer right:-) nice one...they should try and you ll see where the grievances will be coming from!

Nonsense
 

simply - think you might be a tad out of focus on that one. It has been stressed to each and every single temp they will not be offered any position at the end of their contract. Although I sincerely hope something does come their way, it's really unkind of you to start this kind of rumour without first getting your facts straight.

i personally believe that the redeployed regional groundstaff will be offered permanent positions on LHR WW come the end of their 11 months.

it makes sense, and they really do deserve it.

we will be expanding our WW routes from LHR come early 2009 with the delivery of 4 new 777-200's, and thus will need these 'new recruits' - along with alot more existing crew from transfer lists - in order to man this expansion.

WW Temps
 

:)I have just read your last thread and I can assure you no such comment was stressed to me ! Aviation including BA are a changing and who knows what 12 months time will bring ! My advice to all temps on the WW temp contract, come with an open mind for the job in hand, work hard and prove you are the asset to the team that you have already been selected for. I realise lots of people are waiting patiently for courses and transfers however right place, right time who knows!!!!!

Does anyone know how many crew are waiting to transfer into WW LHR?

hundreds, probaly thousands

i read at the moment before a new list opens that there were 155 more people at the moment waiting to go to LHR WW from EF . this is of course for the current list which does not include LGW. When the new list opens and when new (perm) crew will be allowed to put their names on the lists then i am sure it will be well over 1500!

Baboi,

Unfortunately even if BA wanted to they cannot offer the temps LHR WW permanent as this would contravene the agreements between the TU and BA.
There can be no direct recruitment into LHR WW end of. Hence the temp contracts. Yes it would save the company money and yes it would make sense but this is BA we are talking about and neither sense nor logic will ever come into the equation.

To be quite honest I think they will be offered LHR SH and then be given the chance to transfer like everyone else. I doubt that they will be offered SFG as MG has said they will NEVER transfer temps to SFG as it has caused more problems than solutions.

SB

I never said the temps will be offered permanent contracts at LHR WW as this would conflict the current agreement. But, LHR EF for definite as there is no agreement that mentions anything about this and LGW SF is not part of the NSP. Recruitment has been done straight into LHR EF as late as this year even that BA said they wouldn't recruit to LHR any more. See what happened...

And, they also stated last year when they recruited temporary crew for LHR WW that it was a six month contract. Most, if not each and every single one, of them were offered LGW SF.

As for getting my facts straight, I have my source. Perhaps she's wrong. Perhaps she's right. Only time will tell!

SuperBoy,

if you read my reply to you concerning these new WW LHR temporary crew a few weeks ago, you would have a better understanding of the situation regarding the REDEPLOYED REGIONAL GROUNDSTAFF (note: NOT, i repeat, NOT the newcommers to the company) and my point of view, as a result, on it.

i refer you back to my earlier posting on this thread: number 260 (page 13).

fu coffee,

as i made clear, i was stating a personal oppinion.

i refer you to the posting above for further information.

In the past there have been instances where redeployed staff have been given permanent positions at WW LHR. The closure of BFS base springs to mind.

When the GLA call centre was shut down, they were offered WW LGW with 2 free GLA-LGW return per month so they could commute.

This is unchartered water for BA. Now that WW LGW doesn't exist, anything can happen. From a moral point of view, the company does need to look after the re-deployed staff. WW LHR seems to be a logical choice as it will mean that re-deployed staff from outstations can commute and therefore reduce the disruption to their lives.

The company CAN bypass transfer lists in situations like this. It has been done before.

Training Question.
 

Hey guys ,

Would like to know how many weeks is the training at LHR for
Gatwick Fleet Crew? and is there anyone starting the 12th November ?

Got my Uniform fitting tomorrow, still trying to workout where the place is
as it does look miles away from airport. Thinks it's best to catch a taxi there.

Also once I'm online how much does the train cost from Victoria for a month including the Airline Discount ?

Many Thanks !!

You go to LHR for the end of week 3 (wed-fri)....off sat/sun then at LHR back for the entire following week mon-fri.

Oh and ref the above discussion....LGWSF IS in the NSP! As of October 2006!

Simply - it is quit clear that you don't have your facts straight as SFG has joined the NSP in October 2006!

Thanks PAX AGENT for your reply, also on the BA website there is vacancies for Gatwick Fleet !!

Good Luck everyone ;)

Far out, so they are. Guess I was wrong about the recruitment freeze. Hopefully this means things will be moving along for those in the various holding pools.

Hi everyone

BA are recruiting for LGW Crew again

x

WW Temps
 

Hey BA Boi

My Post was referring to post 379 regarding "it was stressed" to all temps that nothing would be offered.

Love reading insiders views and galley fm.

Que Sera Sera:)

fu coffee,

apologies.

were you scottish groundstaff?

Ba Lgw Commuting
 

Hi Everyone,

I'm really intersted in applying for BA LGW, just wondered if there are
any Gatwick crew that commute from Manchester?

Wasn't sure if commuting from Manchester was possible on the
Gatwick rosters!!!!

Any information would be appreciated,

David

Ef Holding Pool
 

My fellow swimmers, has anyone else been called with a course date yet? Dawn have you been called yet?

Do you think this new recruitment for LGW is making it worse for us to ever get courses as they'll be busy training them?

David, it is possible to commute from manchester, but you need to remember you dont get concessions until 6 months .

For eveyone else their is 12 - 15 new entrant courses for LGW so will be a matter of time. The recruitment drive for LGW is still ongoing.

Hi Missdoo - Re LHREF hold pool
 

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!! THE BALL HAS STARTED ROLLING FOR HOLD POOL !!!Finally I got my course date!!!! 21JAN08 :)

I'm really excited and i just hope that all of you still waiting get your call soon.

I will keep my fingers crossed..... In the meantime...

PLEASE STAY POSITIVE :ok:

DAWN :)

It's interesting to see that BA are looking for Gatwick Fleet crew as
GB Airways will be out the mix soon ? it's a good thing for the GB Airways crew who still want to be part of the BA Brand. ( Sorry just swolled my Insight Manuel).

Did my Uniform fitting today, was in a panic in the morning waiting for bus number 2 or 200 at North Terminal and watching the Number 10 come and go, So I caught a Taxi £10,50 and then on the way back to airport the Number 10 was on the same route and is £1.50 :ugh:...

Oh another Question they put your Uniform in a huge box, do they mind if you bring a suitcase with you to pick up your Uniform during the course?
really don't want to carry a huge box on the train !!

Sorry also do the hotels give Airline Discount around the training centre ?

Cheers ;)

Dawn when was your Interview? Have a few friends not on PPRUNE, who would love some info , thanks

Hi Flower Duet
 

I believe that BA are now calling the "Internal Hold Pool" and I am BA re-deployed staff. I presume they will start calling the "External Hold Pool" when they are through with "Internals", it would make sense.

I wish your friends the best of luck and hope they don't have to wait long for their call.

DAWN :)

Congratulation's !!
 

Cheers Hun for the Info, oops just sent my friend a text before your reply !!Oh well at least the ball is rolling and Congratulation's on getting a course date (BIG THUMB'S UP).

:ok::D:ok::D