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DMED 20th Sep 2007 13:01

Cambio de Datos
 
Hola chic@s

I am one of these in the holding pool for Eurofleet LHR and I have recently resigned from Bmed (becoming bmi) to work for a while in the ground in Spain til I get a course date with BA (if I do). The thing is that obviously my circumstances (employment and address) have changed now. Does anyone knoe how can I inform of this to BA?
also... any new about when may we be called to give us a course date?

Thanks very much and happy flying!

kikko 20th Sep 2007 13:10

The letter and DMED
 
The Letter

I have just read somewhereelse BA has actually changed the interview so that apparently they select people at group exercise stage and only the successful ones can proceed to next stage (2 to 1) which might not be on the same day.
Now I don't know if what I have read on the other forum is true and if it is from a direct source......So the question remains opend.


DMED
If you log onto BA web site you can change you details online (addredd telephone etc) and remember to save them!!

blueskybird 20th Sep 2007 13:27

interview format
 
had an interview with ba a couple of wks ago and it was a group exercise, the 2-2-1 and the company presentation - these can be done in any order. ;)
good luck to ll of you going for you interviews!!! :ok::ok::ok:

x x blueskybird x x

VS-LHRCSA 20th Sep 2007 13:42

Yeah, that's how they've done it for the past few years. I think because of the rotation of groups, it's easy to assume that others have been "cut" as you've not seen them since being in the waiting room.

Londonphilou 20th Sep 2007 16:07

Assessment
 
I would not think that the format of the assessment day has been changed.
However as they are looking for only a certain number of crew, they might have something else in place. I would say, just be prepared. If you are in doubt, call or write to recruitment.

I'm so excited! 20th Sep 2007 17:33

BA Boi
 
Hi BA boi- i was just browsing through previous threads and saw 1 you posted to AMS on 19th saying about getting the highest places on the course.
i was wondering if u cud tel me more about this, do you come out of the training course with different seniority levels? or is it that if u make a good impression you'l be coonsidered first for a promotion?

Also can anyone tell me if training is mon-fri or does it include weekends as well?

Thanx alot X

VS-LHRCSA 20th Sep 2007 18:04

Your seniority number is determined by the day you joined. If there is 25 of you on your course, then your seniority within that 25 is MEANT to be determined by performance, however, I ended up being junior to 2 people on my course with performance issues, so I am not so convinced by that claim.

Once you actually start flying this seniority is pretty much diluted by the 1000s of crew that have been there longer than you. It will only really affect you if you fly from someone on your course and you need to choose working positions.

As far as promotion goes, realistically, you are looking a good 5-7 years ahead at LHR (maybe less at LGW) before you are even allowed to apply. Your training will be then be a distant memory and your performance in the training doesn't really come into it. It also goes the other way, if you didn't perform so well in training doesn't mean you have less of a chance for promotion.

My advice would be just to get stuck in, pay attention, be on time, adhere to uniform standards and revise at night - just like any other airline.

Oh, and MY training was Mon-Fri but I wouldn't rule out weekends unless told otherwise. Cranebank is open 7 days a week.

speedmarque 21st Sep 2007 08:24

Promotion at LHR
 
The facts in the above post re promotion is a little incorrect. The last intake of Pursers on LHR Eurofleet included folks who have been in the company just THREE years. This seems to be the norm now as the last campaign a couple of yearsback was down to THREE years as well.

WW LHR is a totally different kettle of fish. I know folks there with TEN years service who are still not senior enough to apply!

Cheers

VS-LHRCSA 21st Sep 2007 08:56

Thanks for the correction Speedmarque. Three years is pretty good.

yingying 21st Sep 2007 22:50

Hi all,
Can someone tell me whether the allowances is paid in arrears i.e. october allowances will be paid in Novembers pay. Thanks. Also anyone on the Temp WW 3rd Dec course?

Londonphilou 22nd Sep 2007 11:50

ams
 
Ams, have you got your roster already? And did you get to bid too?
Hope all gone well. Still waiting here..almost drowning in that poole..:)

Londonphilou 22nd Sep 2007 16:59

hi
 
What is a ban 3 and 4?

SuperBoy 22nd Sep 2007 17:07

It's band 3 or band 4.

Basically a band 1 is a flight with a flight time of upto 60 mins. A band 2 is a flight with a flight time of 60 - 90 mins, Band 3 90 - 120mins and I stand to be corrected but a band 4 is 120 - 240 mins.

flyer55 22nd Sep 2007 17:09

Has anybody been to a recruitment day for LGW recently . If so what were you told about LGW's future . Am crew for BA @ LGW and am interested to see what you have been told. If you want to Private Message me and I will reply .

thanks

Londonphilou 22nd Sep 2007 18:06

Band
 
Thanks guys.

I'm so excited! 22nd Sep 2007 20:58

Thnx alot VS-LHCSA and Speedmarque for the info on seniority and promotion. I'l take your advise on everything!

X

GODDESS OF DAWN 23rd Sep 2007 00:32

Hi AMS-LHR
 
Thanks to your post updates and looking at how you have progressed it's really amazing to see how your first flight is finally around the corner. I'm excited for you and I can't wait to get there eventually myself. Please don't forget to tell us how your first flight goes.

GOOD LUCK for the 3rd OCT!!

Still hanging by a thread.....
DAWN :)

blueskybird 23rd Sep 2007 13:43

Question regarding Leave??
 
Could anyone from LGWSF please tell me if it is possible to pehaps club together leave, say for example if I needed 21/28 days of for a special occassion (which i may well have next year) ??

would i have to go to my base manager to ask for special permission?

If any crew at Gatwick could shed some light it'd be much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance:ok::ok:

flyer55 23rd Sep 2007 18:53

Sometimes it is ok to do that but you need to go through your line manager!

BA Boi 23rd Sep 2007 19:18

SuperBoy,

with regards my posting (number 205 on this thread) and your reply (number 210) i think that if you read my posting correctly, you will find that i was stating a personal belief about what would happen to the redeployed regional ground staff when the end of their contract on WW LHR finishes - i was not stating a fact.

i still, and will continue, to believe (and hope) that this will happen.

afterall there are precidents that have been set (although under slightly different circumstances, but very similar nontheless) i.e. belfast call centre closure at the end of last year; glasgow call centre closure 4 years ago they were all moved onto the WW fleet at LHR and WW fleet at LGW (when it still existed) respectively.
they were out of a job and under those circumstances and under the terms of the redeployment agreements negotiated between the company and the various departmental unions YEARS and YEARS ago, reasonable alternative empolyment within the company must be found and offered. also it must be permanent if vacancies exist.
although there has been no mention of the redeployment agreements in this particular instance (and therefore why these positions are not permanent (as yet)) may be due to the fact that permanent vacancies within the WW fleet at LHR aren't available - YET.

however, with the arrival of the DFW and IAH services at LHR in the spring i'm convinced that this will change.

as for the 60-odd external recruits that will be accepted for the 11 months, i'm sure that they will be directed to SF LGW at the end of their term, or perhaps (and i'd say more fairley) offered the choice to go the fleet into which they were originally placed in the holding pool for.

oh, and as for your information on the EF LHR work bidding system with regards to it being seniority-driven - you are mistaken i'm afraid.
work bidding is seniority-driven at SF LGW, but N O T at EF LHR. not at all.

as for the rotating groups A; B; and C - again, at EF LHR that O N L Y applies to the allocation of annual leave.

:}.

G-MEDA 24th Sep 2007 06:26

July Interviews Ef Lhr
 
People who had an interview scheduled last July have been put on hold for about 12 months...

Has anyone in this situation heard from BA yet? Has anyone been offered an interview for WW temp contract instead?

kikko 24th Sep 2007 08:04

I Don't know. If you wish to go for interview for LHR WW I would give BA a call and ask them as I belive it is possible.

honeydarling 24th Sep 2007 14:15

Hi there, is there anybody who is going up for the WW interviews the night before and staying in a hotel by the airport? Could anyone offer me any advice regarding the way how I get to cranebank from them? Is there a bus? I know there is one from Hatton Cross, are there regular busses from all the hotels to hatton cross? Thanks! :) x

Londonphilou 24th Sep 2007 15:11

Transport
 
Your best bet is to check with the hotel you made your booking with. Some of the hotels have free shuttle to the airport terminals and may be to Hatton Cross but not to Cranebank for sure.

agnieszkolina 24th Sep 2007 16:22

Ba recruitment day
 
Hi guys, is there anyone going to a recruitment day on 4th of October at Heathrow??woul be nice to meet some of u before going there... good luck to everyone :)

VS-LHRCSA 24th Sep 2007 17:15

Try to stay at the Jury's Inn. It is half way between Hatton Cross and Cranebank - you can walk to either.

Airhostessdream 24th Sep 2007 18:19

Ba interviews!!
 
My assesment Is not until the 5th October.:) Not sure If there is anyone else going on this day.:confused: Agnieszkolina, It's a shame that our's is not on the same day, That is exactly what I thought about meeting up before hand. Let me know How you get on and all the best of luck:p

the letter 24th Sep 2007 18:31

2nd of October at 12:30 anyone?

agnieszkolina 26th Sep 2007 01:03

thats a pity..
 
thats a pity we cannot go there the same day...ehhh i'll let u know how it went and good luck to u as well! i think its gonna be hard but i'll try my best :)

747-436 26th Sep 2007 08:27

If you are in the Eurofleet hold pool then you can switch to the worldwide courses straight away without an interview, well you could before the closing date anyway. Obviously BA state a couple of times that it is only 11 month contract and that if a EF course comes up you can't switch back etc etc.

Matt101 27th Sep 2007 16:00

I also wanted to point out an inaccuracy posted earlier that the WW and EF contracs are different - Havign signed both of them in the past I can say that they are not different but the other aggreements in place - predominantly affecting your rostering patterns and allowances days off etc. are different. I was in LHR EF pool then was offered Temp WW without askign for it.
Also somone asked for a typical roster at LGW - if they are still after it PM me and I'll send you mine as I am sure the poor moderator would have a fit if I posted 2 pages of A4 into this forum.
Good luck to all of you applicants out there (don't like to say Wannabe's as it makes me sound a bit superior).
Opps & Choice news for LGW is due this month but considering todays announcement on Longhaul aircraft purchases I'm sure all is to play for and change is on the horizon - A380 good god I feel a bit giddy at the propsect.
See all the new LGW crew soon.
I knwo a manager has said she wouldn't support moving LHR temps to LGW in the uture but she is one of many so don't take that as gospel.
I try to post more fact (or what we as crew are given as fact) on here than opinion but at the end of the day it is PPRUNE the RUNE bit standing fro Rumour Newtwork so take everything with a pinch of salt.
I reiterate though if you really want to work for BA hold out for EF if you want to but don't decline LGW if it's lookign like all you'll geet - it's still paid better than most (not LHR BA i know but still) and you too could be sat on a beach in BGI drinking Strawberry Daquiri's for £2 a pop - Heaven. Me right now I'm in TPA on my balcony having spent my 48 hours off tryign to shake a miserable cold i feel a bit giddy after all the beechams! Usually it'd be Busch Gardens though!
Happy flying!

GODDESS OF DAWN 28th Sep 2007 08:43

To: LHREF - Hold Pool
 
Hi there....

I just spoke to BA Recruitment and they assured me that even though our application is valid for 1 year we will get a course before expiry date.

When I asked him for an approximate date he said before MAY 08 and not to worry........

GREAT NEWS !!!

DAWN :D

VS-LHRCSA 28th Sep 2007 08:51

Well, that's good news, Dawn.

April and May for EF courses makes sense. They need the space at Cranebank to get all 280 WW Temps trained up and online. It will take until April to do that.

kikko 28th Sep 2007 09:05

Goddess that's a great news!!!!:ok:...still keeping my fingers crossed for everybody in EF pool. All this waiting might be in the end very worthwhile:)

BACityFlyer 29th Sep 2007 14:00

Anyone got interview for temp WW on 1st October at 12.30?

jas99915 29th Sep 2007 16:52

ww temp
 
Hey I got an interview for ww temp... if anyone has done this before or knows anyone who has... could you let me know what they took home a month on a average basis.... after tax... would be good to know... or pm me... cheers:)

TheFlyingFrenchman 30th Sep 2007 01:37

from what I heard it can be anywhere between 1,400 and 2,600£

can anyone confirm/rectify this?

VS-LHRCSA 30th Sep 2007 06:31

Sounds about right, although £2600 might be stretching it. It would be a one off if you got it. That would be a month of NRT, SIN/SYD and 8 day B2B (which will be going with the DTW/IAH). Budget for around £1500 and anything over that would be a nice suprise.

Matt101 30th Sep 2007 12:03

I already PM'd an answer to this but my average NET while temping at LHR WW was 1750. (made from 890 gross basic and 1300 gross allowances). Like VS says though NRT etc trips would push this up but I wouldn' expect to do one of those a month!

happy flying!

Airhostessdream 1st Oct 2007 09:18

Question, About Baa Security Pass?
 
:)Hi Guys,:)

Can anyone help me with this burning question I have. I just need to see several people's opinion. When I was doing training with a previous airline, my references were almost processed for an airside pass, but I was never told to collect it or that it was ready.

So I did not have to go down and get my photo taken or anything. I didn't complete my training.I know some airlines dont give you a form to ask have you previously applied for a BAA security pass or had one. I think Ba gives this form. What worries me Is I did not want to put down my previous airline as I didnt have the best of experiences and this might put my chances down. I was not even there long.
So my question is do I have to put this whole thing down that on my references,can they actually find out?they may ask me why I did not put this down on my application form. As I never had a pass, don't think it was ready, so can I just tick the (No I have no had not applied for a pass?:confused::\)


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