lhr ef
 

**** :( sorry guys for the language :) we should see it on the brighter side....they will call us in jan and we'll get a course within THE year ;)

Yes unfortunatly it looks like we'll have to wait till January.
The lady I spoke to was really nice and she phoned me back to explain that at the moment they were recruitng for Gatwick and EF LHR won't be until January.

I mentioned our concerns that our applications could expire and still not be called but she explained that that is not always the case, maybe they'll extend the application, who knows.

I do know someone who is cabin crew for EF LHR and she told me that BA are recruiting for 700staff in January so that has got to be us!!

Just a bit of a bummer that we have to wait till Janury though, would be nice to hear before Christmas:{

EF holding pool
 

JenniD, were you given info on recruitment or new EF courses? Why would the lady tell you about EF recruitment in Jan when you were inquiring about new EF courses dates and we already know they are recruiting for LGW right now. Sounds like that lady got a bit mixed up??

The famous EF hold pool ...
 

Hi guys,

I've thought all along that our wait would take us into 2008 ...

Lets just stay positive, enjoy Christmas and look forward to a call early in the new year :)

Cheers

Azzuri

She basically said BA will be calling people up for course dates in January so I presume that's us

Ef Wait...
 

Hi JennyD,

I really hope that the lady you spoke to she understood exactly what you were asking her and the reply she gave you was accurate and correct.

I must say that unfortunately all my recent calls to BA (I shouldn't phone up..but I do:ugh:) were answered by people that didn't seem to know a lot and they gave answers not strictly related to my questions...very vague and general. It also seems to me that the answers we get are different depending on who answers the call.

If BA really need 700 EF crew early next year I don't see why BA cannot let us know more officially, either by email or at least, by giving us a straight answer when we phone up (even if they haven't already planned all the course dates). Even if it was only like:
" ..please rest assured that you will be called before your offer...will expire..." After all I wouldn't think (not sure though) that there is more than 150 ppl still in the hold pool (probably less).
.....I know ..I know ...this is the price we need to pay to maybe one day work for " A Prima donna" airline...

xxxxxxx to all

I know I'm starting to wonder if any of them have any idea what is going on at recruitment.

When I phoned the rivers, the lady I spoke to said she will get someone to call me back, 3 hours later no call, so I called again, spoke to the same lady. In the end she chased it all up for me and phoned me back herself.

It would be nice if we knew where we stood, I'm supposed to be going to new york in January for 4days and am beginning to woner if I should stay home just incase they call:ugh:

jend
 

in your case i wouldnt stay at home and waiting for that damn phone call....there s no guarantee they call u...enjoy nj and leave ur mob on...and if they cant reach u they will leave a message and u call back...as easy as it is. :)

EF
 

JenniD, whatever that lady told you, I bet you we will hear something even before xmas. And if we dont, you just go for yr holiday and do check your voicemail and email regularly. You wont miss anything.

welcome to British Airways guys! Thats just only the start:-) The people would not even know how to run a convenience store! They ve had you waiting for months and am surely you ll be called. But why on earth could they not plan ahead their training courses?! ....a few months later they will be panicking that they are desperately short of crew and start investigating how it all happened! The same situation happens at LGW. They cancelled a few months ago recrutment campaign because they predicted surplus of crew and now they are cancelling loads of flights every day! I truly believe that they should be ashamed of themselves....the name and reputation of British Airways deserves better!Good luck to all!

supply and demand.....it constantly changes at a big airline. Also remember the introduction of T5 is changing a lot of the numbers.

There will be training courses throughout January for EF.
There are however big problems at BA Gatwick SFG (Single Fleet Gatwick),with between 40-60 crew leaving the airline every month so they are now going to have to bring recruitment forward urgently.Flights are being cancelled on a daily basis due to 'Operational Reasons'.(Crew leaving in their droves!!).
Hold out for Heathrow.;)
WTDWL.

worried ...
 

:uhoh::uhoh: im starting LGWSF in february and hearing that so many crew are leaving they are having to cancel lots of flights is really worrying me! are there any crew at gatwick who are happy there???
would really appreciate any info/reassurance :\

LGW
 

Blueskybird, among the 40-60 leaving every month, if that is so every month, its a a bit worrying. However not all of them are leaving because they are not happy. Some are retiring and others moving on to other things or for other reasons. Same as Heathrow a lot of people leaving every month for various reasons. So dont worry.

My posting was not without substance.

I am in fact Heathrow crew and have just had the pleasure of two excellent longhaul flights out of Gatwick,crewed by SFG crew.

Lovely crew,professional delivering an excellent service.

As normal you have a chat with each other about things.The crew I spoke to gave me the figures and explained the reasons.

To back this up there was a live forum this week with our head of In Flight Services.He was asked about the situation at SFG by a Gatwick crew member.
His answer was 'a high turnover is not a bad thing'!!.:confused:.He carried on to say however they would have to see why so many people were leaving and speed up recruitment into single fleet.

Please don't shoot me I am just the messenger!!.

WTDWL.

Hello,
Just to let you know they are very short of trainers at Cranebank, And also very short of crew at LGW as you all know.So maybe that's why the wait is taking so long....

But everyone at Cranebank is speaking about the LHREF holding pool, so don't worry no one is going to forget about you.

You are all assets to British Airways as crew not "FISH" .

Keep the faith :ok:

BA are so short at SFG they are subbing flights to Monarch and Titan Airways for the next few days!!.

Nuff said.

WTDWL.

I'm starting training soon for LHR WW. How many people are in each course?

There were 12 on my course but that was some time ago. Expect to start with anywhere from 12-20, especially if there is a shortage of trainers. You'll have a blast.

I trained in July this year and there were 24 on my course. Think it depends on how urgently they need crew and how many trainers available. We needed four trainers on my course to keep us under control!

That's great, thanks. This has probably also been asked before. The basic salary is around 10 980 GBP per annum but how much could you expect to be earning in averge every month including allowances?

Uuuurggghhh!!!!!!!!
 

Hey All

Congrats :Dto all of those who have rec'd there phone calls to say that they have got there course dates I won't lie but am totaly envious of you all!!

Was anyone on the 8.30 LHR WW int on the 5th Oct have any of you had the all important call to say they have got there course dates??

Or to those whose have been in the hold pool is that a little bit too optomistic to think we would get a call so soon?? Cause at the the pool feels like it is getting real full and quick but things seem to be slowing on the course date front!!:{

I am tryin to be patient and to not think about it but you know how things are:rolleyes:

Holding pool..
 

SD83, you only just had your interview and have been put in a holding pool, whereas a lot of us from the LHR EF pool had our interviews back in May and still waiting for a course date. So the wait can be weeks or even months..just hang in there, it will come eventually.

Hey fellow swimmers!!!!

As I dont live in the UK I dont get the chance to watch British TV and never see the News, but thanks to our friends at youtube I think this news report might interest you all....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQle1ol3jg

8 Months swimming and LHR is short of Cabin Crew, is BA the company I really want to work for, this doesnt look like a company that is well organised and Im starting to wonder if Im doing the right thing.

Would it be too much for those helpful people at BARecruitment to send us an email or something to update us on our situation.

If we are lucky we might be flying by .......god knows :bored:

Pass me the towel...

Once you are trained and flying, BA is still a pretty good airline to work for. There are things that need to be addressed, particularly at LGW. Pay, transfers and duty hours to name a few.

I would say that perhaps the job itself is in decline across the industry. Pays are being cut, terms and conditions eroded, etc. People do it, for various reasons, despite they way the airline is steered.

If you can tell me a better airline to work for in the UK, I would give it serious consideration. Other than that, BA, for all it's problems is still the airline for me.

For those that are in the various holding pools, just hang in there. This is not the first or the last time the company have used holding pools. I waited two years for a start date. It sucked at the time but it was worth it in the end.

Two years!! OMG!!:{

LHREF Holdpool
 

Two years?????

Lets hope it doesnt come to that!

:confused:

last Christmas
 

Hi guys,

I also was disappointed last week when i realized nobody else was being called but we need to see the good side of it. We sill spend christmas at home with the people we love and this will be the last. Our last christmas before being in BA. Next Christmas we would be flying around Europe and we will be part of one of the best airlines in the world.
I am tired of being in this pool as well but I am sure we will be rewarded after so much waiting. We just need to make the most of our last months before BA... I am currently living in Spain and I will personally make the most of my life in Madrid til Ba rings my phone and changes my life. The new year will be very good for all of us waiting Im sure and we will get that so much wanted course date for "The three kings".Its just around the corner !! Happy Christmas to you all...

EF
 

The way things are right now I doubt we will have to wait for 2 years. But I suppose it can happen. There is a shortage of crew as you all know and not enough time and trainers for all the fleets new crew. Lets hope we get a call after new year.

LHREF
 

Where have all the fish gone???? Its pretty quiet on here lately, I hope everyone is floating ok!!

Maybe its a good idea to stop checking the messages on here every 20 minutes, it cant be healthy!!

Doubt theres gonna be any news at all for us until after new year!!!

Does father xmas visit holdpools, I do hope so!!!!!! :D

LHREF
 

Spoon82, I think we are still swimming around...and not drowning. :-)
Checking postings on here is ok to pass the time and be kept updated of any news. But at the end of the day its that phone call that we need. Never really believed in father xmas but that could change if....hehehe..Better get some stockings and a xmas tree then...

Hi everyone...

I heard that because of the open skys agreement in Europe ,BA are planning on opening a base in Paris and Madrid ?

Yes they are, but it will probably be staffed by people seperate to mainline BA so getting in to this would not get you in to mainline. Although they have only advertised for pilots so far.

Christmas training
 

Does anybody know for crew that are just about to/already started enroll on training courses in the next few weeks of we will have any time off over the xmas period? Many Thanks :)

As far as I know there is no training on 25-26 december and 1st of january.

From what I have heard there will be training on December 26th!

About the exam on first day of training (Stage two from the pre-course work), what is it like?

anyone explain how the training works. Pass marks etc. Thanks

EF fellow swimmers...
 

Hey guys,
Are you all on holidays already?? :)
Or the water too cold??
I suppose there's no news apart I heard that there won't be much recruiting and training between March and June due to the opening of T5.
Lets hope we hear something after New Year.
Santa please get us our courses!! :ugh:

I wonder if we will make it before our offer expires??