Qantas -its started

[cabinboy]

friend of mine from brisbane got invited to stage 2 without a phone interview....good one QF, first of all you tell everyone 4 weeks wait and now your not even giving some people 7 days notice to attend an interview !

p.s - QF will not let you change interview times either, a friend of mine called HR and was rejected for time change - none allowed - to bad , so sad apparently.

[ozflyboy]

C U there!

Yes guys.....Brisbane boy here who has had an offer of a SYD stage two session.....Thurs 5th - anyone else gonna be there??

Cabinboy - ur right - no changes allowed...!!!

Any other Bris ppl heading down??

[Lozza2002]

ozflyboy

See you there

[vdd]

Melbourne interviews

Hey there

Have just received an email to attend a Melb interview on 9 Dec. Yeeha!

So I suppose this is where ppl from Adl will be going.

Cheers
vdd

[F27Friendship]

Adelaide

Hello everyone,

This is my first post in this thread. I am from Adelaide, and this morning received an email inviting me to stage 2 on 12 Dec at 1300. Anyone else also at this time?

Also, Yesaterday I had my 2nd interview with Qantaslink (impulse), and the head recruiter, "Polita" was very encouraging toward me ... so I hope that may be a goer too.

I am about to look for airfares across to Melbourne for the day now.. hope it wont cost me an arm and a leg, lol.

Has anyone else from Adelaide been asked to go? Also, has anyone recently had any luck with Impulse?

[Alpha Charlie Bravo]

Hi Guys

Just got the email from QF to attend a stage 2 interview here in MEL on the 12th Dec at 1300. For those wondering about the method of contact. Don't worry about having your mobile surgically implanted just yet, all invitations to stage 2 are via email. For those from ADL (was based there myself until the AN collapse) all of my brothers and sisters in arms there who have made stage 2 are being summonsed to MEL.

Have no idea what they have in store for us this time around. The QF rumour mill has been very quiet on this subject. I believe its all being overhauled as a result of Jeanine Green (ex AN Team Mgr - SYD) having recently been appointed the new Manager - Cabin Crew Recruitment for Q.

All the very best of British girls and boys!

[wing8]

Yippeeeee!!!......

Hello

After checking my email every 5 mins,just got an email to say I got through to next stage,good to see they are starting to contact Melbourne people...
Good-luck again to others..
ps-my date is Wed 11th Dec
wing8

[nickmelb]

yey!

looks like i will be seeing some of u guys on the 12december in melbourne! yey! how exciting!

[Ozlander]

It's started in the West too!!!

After reading all the posts from you guys in the East, I was starting to worry about my PER application. But thankfully I received my email invite to Stage 2!!!!

Stage 2 in PER will be Friday, 6th Dec.

After jumping up and down excitedly, I re-read the email and it thanked me for spending time with QF discussing my FA application. .... what time?? I haven't spoken to anyone at QF. Has this happened to anyone else? Is it a Perth thing or is it because I am an ex-FA who has already gone through the QF interview stage earlier this year (but stuffed it at the final interview).

To all of us (East and West) attending QF interviews next month, good luck and hope you see you in the QF corridors!

Oz

[wing8]

Hi ozlander!!

Hi,
well done for getting through,sounds odd though that you did not get interviewed on the phone-I am also an ex-FA and went through QF process this year also...don't worry too much about it,go along and do your thing,good-luck &enjoy!!
wing8

[Wingletts]

QF second interviews!

Hi all,
Well looks like I was worrying a bit too much as today I received an email to attend a second stage interview in Melb on 10th Dec at 1300hrs.WOW! I am soo stoked,but trying not to get my hopes up yet again , as hey we all know how recriutment goes hey! I was smiling alot though.. sheer relief at making it through to this stage!
All this happened after I had read my staffcv account and checked into the pp site on my lunch hour and just happened to flick to my hotmail account and there it was..! SOO happy!

Wing8 - I was reading your post -congrats too !- you know flightboi and so do I !! We all worked for a regional at one point and did at least one over night together in DPO.( I was on the on the other team) We will all have to catch up soon hey! Spoke to a few ex KD people tonite and one of my friends has an interview too after no phone call for first stage -bizarre! Wonder what we are all in for at the seminar hey?

If any one can shed any light on QF interviews (esp group ones ) would love to hear of some handy tips. Again well done to all of you who made it through -see you on the big day!
Wingletts:

[Trollywally]

Hi fellow pruners

Congrats to all those people who have reached the second stage and to all the others who so far have only had the phone call hang in there ive got my fingers crossed for you all.

I put my application in on the 7th Nov and havn't heard a thing yet so Im guessing I may have missed out this time. everyone else I know has had at least the call.

I applied to Australian in about June and didn't get through so im wondering if that has had any bearing on it.

I was lucky enough to get a letter from MAM last week saying that i'm on a 6 month short list so all doors havn't shut........yet.

Has anyone out there got a short list letter from MAM and also been contacted by QF ( just wondering if that might have something to do with it.)

Also has anyone got any info on what might be happening with Qantas/MAM casuals??????????? Im hoping something might happen in the new year

take care
TW

[nickmelb]

yup

congrats to everyone

hey lets go for the longest forum topic ever!

ps-skyprynces get in touch need to chat to u!

[cabinboy]

nicksy,

i was afraid this might happen when i started this topic, everytime someone replies i get an email from pprune telling me someone has responded - talk about clearing out your inbox ! ha

Good luck to everyone next week, especially my close pprune friends- you know who you are......go get em tigers !

[Sunflower]

Hello All,

I have had my phone interview and now invited to attend stage 2 at PER on 3rd December.

Well done for those I see who seemed to escape the 1st stage and get to stage 2 automatically for whatever reason!

As someone said before in this thread it is good luck in the lottery draw!

I have to work on the 3rd so I telphoned HR Cabin Services in SYD to see if they would be able to give me an alternative date. Quite simply NO was the answer. I would just have to wait for next time they recruit and start the process again. I was also told any email would just be lost in cyberspace.

My point is this. Airlines in the UK such as BA receive the same amount of applications if not more. However, they seem to manage the recruitment process a lot more smoothly. Having different dates and times that can be offered as they understand people do have work committments.

I believed that potential employees were taken on their ability and skill sets. However they seem to be precluding candidates on the grounds that they cannot make the 1 and only interview time allocated. A little unfair in the recuitment process I believe...

Well enough from me and all my best wishes to those who have and havent got interviews. As I always tell myself it is all for a reason.

[cabinboy]

Sunflower,

you are totally correct in everything you said, people are being discriminated against because of the fact that they can't get time off to attend a QF interview, the answer " no " from QF simply shows the attitude to the recruitment process they are showing this time, they obviously don't care if there are fantastic applicants out there, all they care about is that people turn up to the group interview sessions they have organised and they will choose the best of those applicants for positions who were lucky enough to have the day off or whatever ! The reason why they can do this is because they are QF and people fall over themselves to get selected for a position. The fact is that QF have made a total cock up of this initial process, the fact that some people have been rejected for interviews after a phone interview and some have been invited to second stage without a phone interview just goes to show what an unorganised mess this is. Quite simply it is now clearly obvious why no-one at QF cabin HR will answer the phone, nice one guys - nice "spirit " of Australia you are showing.

For some people 5 days isn't enough to organise a shift swap or time off from work to attend an interview and on top of that organise airfares and accomodation during this busy time of the year for everyone.

I feel sorry for the people who go through this process to only be offered a fixed term contract at the end of it.

Sorry that my comments are harsh but having to watch people VERY close to me almost get into tears due to the stress of this whole thing makes me unhappy.

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO SUCEED !

CB

[notsovapid]

stressful, stressful, stressful.

I have to agree with the last few postings. I have witnessed many good people reduced to tears so unnecessarily because of this randomness and indiscriminate discrimination policy that seems to abound in Australian aviation management/HR circles.

I have been offered an interview next month, yet I too, never received any phone interview!

I feel personally bad and very sorry for other perfectly good candidates who haven't had the benefit of good luck here. I think the thing is, Australia is still immature in some of its processes. That whole psychometric interview process, the calls to some and not others, it simply highlights the poor standards of management in our country compared to other nations (sometimes). I think Australian aviation might suffer more as well because there are simply too many "recycled" managers in the business. A lot of the same old faces (and hence ideas and styles) from the collapsed basket-case of Ansett are now being re-invented and employed at Qantas.

The job market here is small and insulated. Many times it is a case of "jobs for the boys" and this makes matters worse I think. This is one of the reasons why I favour airline exchange programs so much for staff; new ideas and influences etc.

It's not right that supposedly, "the most valuable asset in a company, the employees" are being treated in this way. Little wonder that cabin crew become a difficult group to manage subsequently. The seeds of dissent are being sown right now in this process. Why don't managers care and think about these kinds of issues which would serve to make their own management roles less stressful longer-term, as well as increase the willingness of employees to go the extra-mile. If you really want to give the best in customer service you have to at least acknowledge what the "grinning pullover" Sir Richard Branson (not my nickname unfortunately) does, and that is, that your staff must be fully committed to your business first and foremost.

[flightboi]

Hi guys.
Just checked my e-mail this morning and i too, have made it to the 2nd stage in melbourne on Wed 11th dec. I'm soo relieved as i 've had 2 friends made it through and now i have too. the strange thing is, i seem to have by-past the phone interview and not had one at all, and have made it to 2nd stage already. How's that for freaky.
Anyway, well done to all guys who made it through to 2nd stage and fingers crossed for those who are still yet to hear.
Extra well done to Wing8 and Wingletts!!!
flightboi

[I_In_The_Sky]

Does anybody have any idea what might be involved in the stage 2 interviews? The email stated that it will go for 4-5 hours, but no indication if it will involve 1 on 1 discussion, or maybe some practical things. Normally I would dress in suit and tie for any interview, but the fact this interview is for 4-5 hours i am inclined to think comfort might be in order. Anyone else have other ideas?

Good luck everyone!!

[Airtart]

I_In_The_Sky

Forget the comfort !!! Wear a suit and tie, think Corporate !!