Message of support for stranded crews
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Message of support for stranded crews
As someone who appreciates everything cabin crew do to make his flights as safe and comfortable as possible I'd just like to say my thoughts are with any of you and your flight deck colleagues who headed off with plane loads of holidaymakers to Southern Europe in the early hours of Thursday morning believing you would be enjoying dinner with your families on Thursday evening.
As far as I can see looking at the BFS Arrivals and Departures information at least one IT flight and one scheduled flight did head for the sun before flying ceased.The return flights were initially delayed indefinitely and then cancelled. Presumably similar situations have arisen at other airports.
It must be a very stressful situation to face not to say emotional for any of you who are now missing major family events.
All I can say is I hope your employers are looking after you as they should and you manage to get home ASAP.
In the meantime you're very much in my thoughts.
As far as I can see looking at the BFS Arrivals and Departures information at least one IT flight and one scheduled flight did head for the sun before flying ceased.The return flights were initially delayed indefinitely and then cancelled. Presumably similar situations have arisen at other airports.
It must be a very stressful situation to face not to say emotional for any of you who are now missing major family events.
All I can say is I hope your employers are looking after you as they should and you manage to get home ASAP.
In the meantime you're very much in my thoughts.
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All very noble, I fear it is the pax that are the concern. Most crews are on adequate allowances and there may be many locations at which they are stuck which amounts to a free hioliday. BFS would not be one of them as it is always wet?
All of you make the most of your free time. Why not get T-Shirts printed up with a suitable legend and sell them at a tidy profit, there are loads of people who will buy them? You are probably already to late for this scheme?
All of you make the most of your free time. Why not get T-Shirts printed up with a suitable legend and sell them at a tidy profit, there are loads of people who will buy them? You are probably already to late for this scheme?
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This is the CC Forum and the crews who are stranded around the world away from home are indeed also a concern.
Some have already been 8, 10 days away from home and they are not all 20 years olds with no families waiting for them at home. There are married couples who left for one or two days trips and left the children home with the nanny. One of the Mods of this forum is currently on a 1500Km, 2 days trip trying to get to his workplace where he's due to start working on Tuesday, as his company requested. All kind of difficult situations, same as the pax really.
In our Company Forum lots of pilots and CC who are stranded away from home are posting. Luckily solidarity kicked in and those who can are offering a place to sleep or a lift with the car to colleagues left stranded.
Some have already been 8, 10 days away from home and they are not all 20 years olds with no families waiting for them at home. There are married couples who left for one or two days trips and left the children home with the nanny. One of the Mods of this forum is currently on a 1500Km, 2 days trip trying to get to his workplace where he's due to start working on Tuesday, as his company requested. All kind of difficult situations, same as the pax really.
In our Company Forum lots of pilots and CC who are stranded away from home are posting. Luckily solidarity kicked in and those who can are offering a place to sleep or a lift with the car to colleagues left stranded.
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HZ123 I see from your profile you are a ramp trainer, God help your trainee's if you display the same ignorance to them you have displayed here.
The pax are indeed a concern here. That is why airlines and now even the goverment are doing all they can to address this situation.
When pax go on their hols they budget and plan for their time away. CC are no different. I have friends stuck in the carribean at the moment who are not enjoying their "free holiday" as you put it as they have commitments at home. Also spare a thought for those stuck in the less desirable places, Lagos or Djibouti for example.
My friend works for Monarch. They do a charter to Hassi Massoud. Thats a sandpit in the middle of nowhere. It's 50 degrees there. Armed guards are in evidence all around because of safety/security concerns. Would you fancy a week there especially when you were expecting to do a there and back and probably only have one pair of undies with you
I'm CC and fortunate enough to be stuck at home. I use the word fortunate loosely as I am loosing around half my salary as I am not flying. At least though I'm near my daughter and family.
Think before you post such ill informed drivel. When my daughter was younger I used to tell her "if you can't think of something positive to say then say nothing at all".
FF2 I'm sure my colleagues away would be very appreciative of your thoughts
The pax are indeed a concern here. That is why airlines and now even the goverment are doing all they can to address this situation.
When pax go on their hols they budget and plan for their time away. CC are no different. I have friends stuck in the carribean at the moment who are not enjoying their "free holiday" as you put it as they have commitments at home. Also spare a thought for those stuck in the less desirable places, Lagos or Djibouti for example.
My friend works for Monarch. They do a charter to Hassi Massoud. Thats a sandpit in the middle of nowhere. It's 50 degrees there. Armed guards are in evidence all around because of safety/security concerns. Would you fancy a week there especially when you were expecting to do a there and back and probably only have one pair of undies with you
I'm CC and fortunate enough to be stuck at home. I use the word fortunate loosely as I am loosing around half my salary as I am not flying. At least though I'm near my daughter and family.
Think before you post such ill informed drivel. When my daughter was younger I used to tell her "if you can't think of something positive to say then say nothing at all".
FF2 I'm sure my colleagues away would be very appreciative of your thoughts
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To put some context to this, I was recently told that one major airline has, in the vicinity of, 3000 crew stranded around the world, some as Flyblue said for up to 10 days, some that flew out Thurs morning expecting to be back that day.
Similarly loco crew who do not overnight stop are stuck away from base, possibly having to purchase clothes etc.
Similarly loco crew who do not overnight stop are stuck away from base, possibly having to purchase clothes etc.
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I'm one of those trapped overseas (LAX), and going in to the airport daily to help passengers and ground staff.
HZ123 is simply an insignificant troll - treat him/her with the contempt level appropriate and ignore completely.
HZ123 is simply an insignificant troll - treat him/her with the contempt level appropriate and ignore completely.
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I'm one of the stranded crew and things couldn't have gone worse!
I have a year and a half old boy home in the UK and he's with my in-laws because his dad is stuck in SFO! First trip coming back from maternity leave and I get a good trip down to SIN and SYD. I didn't like the idea of going away for over a week but my OH said everything would be fine and we always have Skype and webcam to use.. He actually talked me into it so I went anyway. My OH went on a trip Wednesday and I was meant to come around a day later but been stuck here for since end of last week and been away for almost 2 weeks in total!
Thought to you all out there!
I have a year and a half old boy home in the UK and he's with my in-laws because his dad is stuck in SFO! First trip coming back from maternity leave and I get a good trip down to SIN and SYD. I didn't like the idea of going away for over a week but my OH said everything would be fine and we always have Skype and webcam to use.. He actually talked me into it so I went anyway. My OH went on a trip Wednesday and I was meant to come around a day later but been stuck here for since end of last week and been away for almost 2 weeks in total!
Thought to you all out there!
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I have a friend stuck in Washington, DC. We live in Wisconsin, so a bit far away, but would love to have him, and his crew to come & stay if this continues.
Perhaps other ppruners could help out stuck crews? If we were closer to an international base, I know I'd be offering some room space, washing machine, and non-hotel type place to flop. Knowing how I feel about staying in hotels, even when there is an end in sight, this is the least I could do.
Perhaps other ppruners could help out stuck crews? If we were closer to an international base, I know I'd be offering some room space, washing machine, and non-hotel type place to flop. Knowing how I feel about staying in hotels, even when there is an end in sight, this is the least I could do.
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Etrang and HZ123,
This isn't a "Who's worse of than who, competition", ALL people whether customers or crew, who desperately want to get back deserve our sympathy.
Sure, some crew will be happy to be down route somewhere nice with a good crew triggering their allowances, but equally, as shown by some examples above, others will be in desperate situations by not being able to get home.
Likewise, unlike ramp staff, for example, crew who are stuck at HOME not flying, are losing a significant part of their income in flying allowances, so you might factor that into your anti cabin crew prejudices.
I myself was thinking this morning, that I wish I was down route, because at least I wouldn't be losing all this money by not flying, but yet again, if this was the week before my wedding, I'd have been frantic with worry if I was stuck abroad.
Can we just stick to the title of this thread "Message of support for stranded crews" and take it as read that:
1. Of course, customers deserve our greatest sympathies.
2. Yes, SOME crews will be happy to be stuck.
This isn't a "Who's worse of than who, competition", ALL people whether customers or crew, who desperately want to get back deserve our sympathy.
Sure, some crew will be happy to be down route somewhere nice with a good crew triggering their allowances, but equally, as shown by some examples above, others will be in desperate situations by not being able to get home.
Likewise, unlike ramp staff, for example, crew who are stuck at HOME not flying, are losing a significant part of their income in flying allowances, so you might factor that into your anti cabin crew prejudices.
I myself was thinking this morning, that I wish I was down route, because at least I wouldn't be losing all this money by not flying, but yet again, if this was the week before my wedding, I'd have been frantic with worry if I was stuck abroad.
Can we just stick to the title of this thread "Message of support for stranded crews" and take it as read that:
1. Of course, customers deserve our greatest sympathies.
2. Yes, SOME crews will be happy to be stuck.
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My lot give £22 per overnight/CC. And the per diems will go into their salary, they don't get the money straight away.I have friends stranded all over Europe.
They might get B&B, fair enough, but £22 is not going to cover lunch AND dinner.
We are also required to carry ONE set of over night clothes in our Crew Bags; we don't have space for more, and these people have been away from their homes for 5 days. They had to go out and buy more clothes.
Added to that, there are people with young children at home who don't have the fortune of "grandparents" looking after the little one. Extra arrangements (and money) for nurseries/friends had to be made.
The airlines are struggling to get their own crew and pax back; not because they don't have a "duty of care", but because it is impossible to have any sort of control in this situation.
Some of my colleagues are in places where internet connection is rare, they don't speak the language, the phone reception is close to non existent and the locals are not very helpful (they charge 50 euros for a fax to be sent!).
So you see, crew have it as bad as pax. I feel sorry for both, and hope they manage to get back to their homes very soon.
In the mean time, can we stop saying that "crew have a hell of a good time"; they don't. Don't forget, crew are human too...
They might get B&B, fair enough, but £22 is not going to cover lunch AND dinner.
We are also required to carry ONE set of over night clothes in our Crew Bags; we don't have space for more, and these people have been away from their homes for 5 days. They had to go out and buy more clothes.
Added to that, there are people with young children at home who don't have the fortune of "grandparents" looking after the little one. Extra arrangements (and money) for nurseries/friends had to be made.
The airlines are struggling to get their own crew and pax back; not because they don't have a "duty of care", but because it is impossible to have any sort of control in this situation.
Some of my colleagues are in places where internet connection is rare, they don't speak the language, the phone reception is close to non existent and the locals are not very helpful (they charge 50 euros for a fax to be sent!).
So you see, crew have it as bad as pax. I feel sorry for both, and hope they manage to get back to their homes very soon.
In the mean time, can we stop saying that "crew have a hell of a good time"; they don't. Don't forget, crew are human too...
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Again, this is the CC Forum, and the topic is Message of support for stranded crew.
It is not a "who's worse off, Crew or Pax" competition.
Thank you for sticking to the topic.
It is not a "who's worse off, Crew or Pax" competition.
Thank you for sticking to the topic.
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Can I just say thanks to the person who left this message!!!
I was a crew member who managed to take off at 10am thursday morning, possibly knowing we wouldnt get home that night as originally planned. We all had plans for the next day as we were all on days off after this particularly long there and back flight. We ended up being stuck there for 6 days!!!!!!
Yes our company looked after us amazingly well, as did the pilots we had with us. But it was not a holiday. We had no clothes, no toiletries, no sun cream, no bug repellent, no money, some of us had no way of getting any money either, some of us had no credit on our mobiles or credit ran out, batteries ran out on mobiles because we had no chargers. Everyday we kept thinking we would be going home the next day so everyday we made do with the bare minimals. We never ever expected to be there for 6 days. Some of us had children, responsibilities, holidays booked etc. We did feel truly stranded. But we made the best of a bad situation and eventually we got home!!!
So thank you for all your thoughts to those of us either lucky or unlucky enough to be stuck somewhere we weren't expecting to be!! Let's hope it doesn't happen again and this volcano stops erupting!!! LOL
I was a crew member who managed to take off at 10am thursday morning, possibly knowing we wouldnt get home that night as originally planned. We all had plans for the next day as we were all on days off after this particularly long there and back flight. We ended up being stuck there for 6 days!!!!!!
Yes our company looked after us amazingly well, as did the pilots we had with us. But it was not a holiday. We had no clothes, no toiletries, no sun cream, no bug repellent, no money, some of us had no way of getting any money either, some of us had no credit on our mobiles or credit ran out, batteries ran out on mobiles because we had no chargers. Everyday we kept thinking we would be going home the next day so everyday we made do with the bare minimals. We never ever expected to be there for 6 days. Some of us had children, responsibilities, holidays booked etc. We did feel truly stranded. But we made the best of a bad situation and eventually we got home!!!
So thank you for all your thoughts to those of us either lucky or unlucky enough to be stuck somewhere we weren't expecting to be!! Let's hope it doesn't happen again and this volcano stops erupting!!! LOL
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Just out of interest, where were you all stuck? I ended up in WAW instead of ARN. We overnighted had a day of sightseeing then started our 30 hour bus and boat trip with pax. Only away for 3 days but still had to buy clothes. Was quite an adventure. 
