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Old 7th Jul 2007, 10:46
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First of all you have to give a very good thinking in appling for Qatar Airways. Maybe there are some better options for you. Just don't hurry into this. Probably you should consider what people on this forum are talking about, they do have some informations that you don't have access to. At the end of the day it is your decision to make whaterever you want with your life, but you're allready 30 and you're gone be stuck there for sometime.

Good luck anyway!
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Good luck then! Really hope all the best for you but I'm affraid you're not going to get it there!
But maybe you only like breathing in this life. Then it's perfect for you.
Don't forget about giving a try at Etihad first, then you may say that Qatar Airways was the only chance left for you so you're not going to regret later for not giving it a try. It is indeed hard to be hanged in finding a job, esspecially the one that you like, but don't neglect the other opportunities you have. Well, all the best!...
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Stop looking for qatar airways crew on this forum because you're not going to find them. It's just not that safe for them to share their thoughts like that.
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Hi hostie3333, amiri is very well paid and it's different then the main line: differnt acomodation, different rules blah, blah, blah. But if you do something wrong,well then the best could happen to you is to be sent at the main line untill you clear up your thoughts. As long as the contract says that you have to attend any duty they give you then...you'll have to dance what their orchestra plays.
Good luck and all the best!
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Hehe;
thanks very much, i consider too much your advice, thanks, but anyway i have just arrived to Rio de Janeiro this morning for the open day tomorrow, thanks, i will take care.
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Thank-you

Thank you all for your advice......l have given it heaps of consideration....and have decided not to apply to Qatar.
Thanks again and happy flying
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 16:44
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Congratulations

On making an excellent choice and not ruining your life.

Also its mentioned earlier in the thread er by me actually that a girl working for the airline committed suicide recently. Well that was the early reports.

It turns out it may very well have been a tragic accident, details are sketchy but suicide is unlikely. I can't go into specifics for fear of outing myself.

Its still a tragic thing to happen and condolences to her family and friends, she was much loved and will be much missed.
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Old 10th Jul 2007, 03:28
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Hi ChicDolly, I really liked your message about how well was the company when AAB came on board. But it seems to me like there are allready ten years pased since that day and it's getting worse. I mean, they should put the management in QA as a study case for the big schools of management from all around the world at the section: "Whatever is the problem you have to fix, JUST DON'T DO LIKE THAT!" I's funny somehow the way they say you're there for money and you have to accept any kind of treatement they give you. But you know, it's proved that people tend to improve their condition more and more. There are some stages that every person is aiming and once they reached what they had to reach, then they will focus for the next one. If I have a good food on my table then I will go for a good house, after I get that I will look for some good studies to develop myself, after I get that, then I will look for a nice and helpfull social life and so on and so fort... This is not happening in QA. They don't really give that much credit on the people needs, so they will never improve this. The fluctuation of people is actually a huge problem in QA right now and it's affecting their image and business a lot, but maybe there is somebody to proud to accept that it may be something wrong with their way of managing people. Yes, we have to admit that they achieved lots of good things in the industry, but you can still not compare them with somebody like Emirates. Emirates - wow! - it's first of all a huge grup that strongly support the airline, then we are talking about a mature company while QA is still a baby in the aviation. Emirates is focusing on development being, practicaly, at the centre of the aviation world (locationwise on the map) and they are so smart to take advantage of that. Only, to come back to the topic, they know that for the development you need experienced people to reach your targets. In the same time QA is transforming their people into some frustrated workforce. How can you still be 5th in the world in these conditions?! Well, that's a mistery to me.
On the other hand, you said about the time when AAB became the CEO. Well his achievements are not really that much thinking of the support he had during these years. For an example of fast growth, we can take a look at Etihad - 3 years?!!!! And they come with smart improvements. They add value for the pax in a really convenient way for them as well for their guests. They came with flat seats in FC and JC on most of the aircrafts, change that will be there forever, while QA came with a very expansiv service for the company and they are in delay a lot introducing it on, at list, all long hall flights. What a shame!!!!
Well, you were right saing that if Alinaqatarcrew is on the edge of her comfort there, then she should hurry to go away. Staing there more is just a waste of time.
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Old 11th Jul 2007, 17:20
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Hey!!

Does anyone know when will the Qatar Airways' open days be held here in Manila? and where?? Thanks!!!
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I have done a search, but what kind of income is on offer at QR, and can you please include real cost of living andextras they include.
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Old 12th Jul 2007, 09:21
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Let's tell you a little story about a certain experience on Qatar the other day.
Flew into Doha the other night in fc from somewhere nice, in transit to London. No 2 son was in the back in economy.
Chap behind yours truly had his wife with him in first and after getting comfortably settled, they were told that one of them would have to move into cattle class because first was overbooked and a VIP had to have a seat. The chap protested that he had paid a full fare for two seats but to no avail. The cabin crew became quite rude and eventually she, being by far the shorter, and with great good grace, moved back into cattle class. Before landing at Doha, my by now quite disgruntled friend asked if his wife could come forward and disembark with him in order to ferry in the BMWs to the fc lounge. This was absolutely refused, even though she held a fc ticket and was booked onwards in that class. The logic, if such it might be called, seemed to be that since she was now sitting in economy, she was therefore now only an economy passenger. The wife did actually try to move forward but her way was blocked by two of the cabin staff. Protestations that they were Qatar frequent travellers fell on deaf ears as did the production of his airline executive card.
The no 2 son managed, by dint of clever legerdemain, to ease into the BMW with us and ended up in the fc lounge, even though he was on an economy ticket. The small victory thus obtained was all the sweeter in the light of the treatment by Qatar cabin crew of someone who really did have a right to be in the first class lounge. Mind you, it took some nerve to achieve this, given the hostile nature of all the cabin and ground staff encountered in the excercise.
Whilst one accepts the fact that the cabin crew were probably following orders, such actions and attitudes on their part, whether motivated by fear of management or not, only served to seriously irritate at least five passengers, four of them in first class, who will certainly think twice before wishing to travel again with a carrier that quite obviously has an ethos of bullying both its staff and its passengers.
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Old 13th Jul 2007, 05:55
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Want to spoil your live....join this jungle backward place call Qatar, where nobody respect any rules, where nobody has any clue of what discipline means....!!( .. or except religion one of course....)
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Old 16th Jul 2007, 03:13
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I don't know if you are talking about Qatar, the country, or Qatar, the airline, even if it's a part of the country too. But, if you are talking about Qatar, as the airline, I think that if there is something wich is followed, specially by there cabin crews, are rulles !

However, if you are talking about the locals, that's another story
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Old 16th Jul 2007, 04:14
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talking about the country generaly.
The only important rule here is "islam"...
You can drive like crazy on the road and put the live of other innocent people in danger...who cares...? All the public area are non smoking area with panel everywhere, sometimes it´s very difficult to enjoy a coffee without being intoxicated by the smoke, noboby says anything even the manager of those coffee shop..and so ans so... violence movies: as much as you want, romantic and love stories movies: no way! Still today i don´t known...and i can´t really understand that....
...But try to eat something in public place or even in your car during the Holy month of Ramadan, somebody will come straight to you and gently tell you:.."sorry sir, this is NOT ALLOWED..".......
Simply true...

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Old 16th Jul 2007, 11:30
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I agree with you. BUT !
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']If you are present in Qatar, or in any other places over the world wich is not your country, it’s for a reason, and in the middle east, it’s most probabelly work, for a lot’s of people. I think, that beeing in another place than ours, we have just to « respect/accept » the menthality, wether it’s a muslim one, or not. Yes in Qatar, they drive like crazy, aske you to do not eat in Ramadan in public area, and so on, but there is a point in my humble opinion ; that, even if you do not like that, you can’t do anything because YOU are the foreigner. And if you want to complain/change things, or whathever, you’ll get the typical and simple reply from the authority in question : « It’s your choice to come here, if you don’t like, so then why you are staying here ? go ! » [/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif'][/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']So, I believe that, by the time you accept the place where you are, having your personal goal in sight, you'll have just to move on, without taking in concideration all these details who can ruine your moral. And if you want a romantic and love story, make your own ( Joking ) [/FONT]
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Old 16th Jul 2007, 14:32
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Hi ChicDolly, if he takes lot of crap from other people it doesn't mean that he has to do the same with his employees. It sounds like you hate me. I don't know where you had the ocasion to SEE that because I was there for a long time and I never had the occasion. I'm not a QA. Now I'm a happy person!!!...
Thanks anyway!
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Old 16th Jul 2007, 14:41
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ChicDolly, do you mean that what happens in QA is not abuse?! Well I do have lot of experience there and I have lot of experience in some other companies. I can tell you that for this month AAB has to report over 250 resignations, only from Cabin Crew Department, to the big dogs. I think, by your judgement, that he deserves a "promotion" now.He he!!!... This is one of his good jobs in QA.
All the best!
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Old 16th Jul 2007, 14:48
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talking about the country generaly.
The only important rule here is "islam"...
You can drive like crazy on the road and put the live of other innocent people in danger...who cares...? All the public area are non smoking area with panel everywhere, sometimes it´s very difficult to enjoy a coffee without being intoxicated by the smoke, noboby says anything even the manager of those coffee shop..and so ans so... violence movies: as much as you want, romantic and love stories movies: no way! Still today i don´t known...and i can´t really understand that....
...But try to eat something in public place or even in your car during the Holy month of Ramadan, somebody will come straight to you and gently tell you:.."sorry sir, this is NOT ALLOWED..".......
Simply true...

Cheers.


For a moment I thought that you are talking of the U.A.E., very graphic by the way !!

Leo
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Old 17th Jul 2007, 05:50
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ITO......I don´t want to change anything, when i´m talking about traffic, smoking rule.....IT´s NOT MY LAW IT'S THE QATAR LAW.....!!!!!!!
AND I THING EXPATS AS LOCAL PEOPLE HAVE AND SHOULD RESPECT THE QATARI LAW(NOT MY LAW..), I FEEL SOMETIME MUCH MORE RESPECFULL TO THE LAW OF THEIR COUNTRY COMPARED TO THEM......
So just wondering who has to adapt and change his behaviour.....???
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 11:32
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Once,somebody got terminated because a drop of wine got on the neighbour seat of one of AAB's friend. Or simply they don't like your face. No explination just "You have to go in 24 hours".How about that?! Or crew are offloaded from the flights because AAB doesn't like something: hair style,sttockings... even if they are as per the grooming manual. Sometimes you go in the briefing room and when the grooming ladies come to check before the flights, they come with a completly new rule opposite to what it was before explaining only:" The chief doesn't like it". There is a circus going on in there and,of course, people rather prefer to have the chance of a resignation then being terminbated. All the employees are so confused...
All the best!...
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