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Old 1st Apr 2007, 17:10
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I agree snxlou101 - will be more than happy to do leisure routes - haven't had a proper suntan for many years

I think that what we are seeing at LGW is how LHR will be eventually. People at LHR on the current contract will leave through retirement, pay off's etc and eventually LHR will be on the same sort of contract as LGW. May take many years and a lot of pay off's but everyone has a price - I did 10 years ago when I took severance. Look at the LHR WW trips now and compare them to how they were back in the 80's and 90's - there's a big difference.

When I was LGW based back in the 90's most of us talked about what has now happened and at the time we said "doubt it will really happen" and it has!
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 17:25
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Yeah your right ex cabin crew,

I had a very interesting conversation with a union rep and apparently Bassa never wanted us in the Nsp and The company did and it's because Bassa were trying to protect Lhr because now we are in the Nsp the company has A very big tool and that is.... If Lgw are doing it why can't you......

I think if you look at the current strike situation (not sure how much you know about it) the company has got all the demands in terms of operation Ie Fix links trials, Reducing Purser's etc and a lot of Lhr people are saying the deal is crap and in my opinion the company gained, so I think Lhr will become more cost effective but then again why not. The airline industry has changed and so does the carriers and also the staff........we are not the market we used to be!!!!
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 18:43
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Interesting about the NSP - I did keep fairly up to date with the strike situation and can see it from both sides. If people have been employed on a certain contract they will understandably want to try to keep their terms and conditions but there again the company has to operate as a business. Having run my own business (not an airline of course but still a business) it is a constant battle at the moment to keep in operation. Other companies are always trying to charge less and keep costs low and you have to follow this trend to keep going. I am in the process of selling my business and it is not an easy task! Yes it would be nice for everyone to be paid a high wage and have amazing conditions but if it is at the cost of the business going under then nobody gains.

So I can see it from both sides - a happy balance has to be found to keep the company going and also keep staff employed.
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 19:29
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Why your negativity gather your at the golden runaway???

Sorry, what?


No one is mis leading anyone by saying lgw is good base to work for.


Never said he/she was actually! Said he might be misleading about the new longhaul routes coming to LGW (of which there are none).
Please read posts thoroughly before commenting on them



in the meantime stick to city breaks!!!!!!!

my original post was cordial and I wished him/her well. You feel the need to (try) and insult me and my fleet...........

Shame on you, you let yourself down there.

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Old 1st Apr 2007, 19:50
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Hit a Nerve!

Never said he/she was actually! Said he might be misleading about the new longhaul routes coming to LGW (of which there are none).


1/ Where is your proof? What will Lgw do with the extra slots maybe put them on shorthaul that isn't making nor losing a profit hummmm....

2/ I think you said the following: I think when you actually start at BA you will be in a better position to comment. I am not meaning to be harsh but you will end up misleading people if you say things on here that just aren't true.

3/ Sorry, what?: very sensitive think they call us Gatters but we don't mind!!!

4/ my original post was cordial and I wished him/her well. You feel the need to (try) and insult me and my fleet.......... ohhhh even more sensitive why would I want to insult your fleet when you had in fact just announced the death of out fleet.

I have a lot of good friends at the golden runaway and I am all in support of them and their fleet However tell me I am lowering myself when you stop getting involved with issues to do with our Fleet - unless that is you show me the hard fact's and not just galley fm gossip.
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 20:13
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Ok think we all need to calm down , I was just stating that we all work for the same name , i dont understand why every one has to have the last word. But i do understand why LGW crew get defensive over their base , I know many crew at LGW and have been on trips with them as a crew tag on and i think its a bloody brilliant base with excellent crew. Personally i cant see how LGW would loose its long haul services , they seem to make profit for the comp and thats the most important thing at the end of the day.
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 20:31
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My sentiments exactly,

Thing is same name completely different bases, we are a vibrant bunch at Lgw and try and remain positive and it's annoying when people think they know the whole ins and outs through listening to galley fm.
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 20:41
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when you had in fact just announced the death of out fleet.


When did I say that? Are we participating in the same thread because you seem to be reading stuff thats not in the one I can see.

Frankly you are now making a fool of yourself.

By the way I was many years at LGW, love the fleet and people so have lots of experience on the subject. I also have many friends there now and my info is based on fact........not Galley FM.

You need to look up "insecure" in the dictionary and take note methinks!

Enjoy having the last word (as I am sure you will have to) I will however be getting on with my life............................will you?

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Old 1st Apr 2007, 20:46
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Yes I will............ but where are the facts???????????????????????? your still unable to produce them so therefore I will put it down to galley fm.... enjoy your new t and c's
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 21:30
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Can I ask how old you two are?! Cos to me you sound like teenagers who have a fight!I am annoyed with both crew at LHR trying to present crew at LGW like they somewhat better because they were just lucky to get thru the same interview like we did and just got a course for LHR! At the same time , it bugs me when fellow crew at LGW are trying to protect that S*it that wiilie walsh has made and call it Single Fleet Gatwick! Why can we not see that the only winner in this situation is the company?! They are saving millions out of us and the petty money they are giving us!To new starters, I would say ...welcome and I hope you enjoy your new career but please dont try to explain what BA does! Welcome to a company that never makes sense!One day they might recruit hundreds and next day you might find a department up for sale! IT CAN HAPPEN!Willie Walsh has the guts to do whatever he feels is right for the boards pocket! He can set LGW to be in profit and then quickly sell it! I dont want this to happen but I dont think it is impossible! I agree the US routes as BA has officially now stated will go up the road and now that BA seem to have bought 51 slots at LHR then they dont need to replace anything.Personally , I think the T's and C's are just unbelievable! 9 days off in a month which can be reduced if you got annual leave...blocks of 6 with longhaul to finish and then 2 days off followed by early start or double! Need I say more?! Why can we not see the problems and do something about it united instead of bickering like children?!
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 21:44
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Why can we not see the problems and do something about it united instead of bickering like children?!
Good point!
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 21:55
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Very true
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Old 2nd Apr 2007, 21:05
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newbagr,

I am indeed Lgw and what gets me is someone from Lhr who comes on here and makes assumption's about routes and what where losing and gaining.

Yes we will lose Iah, Atl, and Dfw but I've had word from senior management that these routes will be replaced.

Now yes we are getting another port of spain but this means 6&7 day trips which we have not had before. Oh and 5 day trips to Bgi.

Also the point I was making was this person from Lhr could not prove what they where saying or provide a valuable argument for slot's etc.

We have to many scare mongers at Lgw and I would hate for people not to come here because of them.

Yes ww can make a profit and sell us but this if this happens nothing we can do about it.
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Old 5th Apr 2007, 09:33
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i am not going to argue with anyone i am simply going to point out something i see as hugely, staring you in the face obvious:

lhr is full (except these new slots)
lgw has 2 flights a day to iah
a 3rd flight 3 days a week
daily to atl, dfw, mco, bda
twice daily to bgi
4 per week to kin
5 per week to tpa

this totals 54 flights a week so i would presume i've made a miscalculation somewhere and it is actually 52 (the rumoured number of purchased slots)

this could easily mean the end of lgw lh, however looking at ba's history and the global picture: ba bought bcal (under pressure from the government) no matter what the price so britain had a single flag carrier and so ba had a lgw presence.

why would ba give lgw up? it would give any of the other carriers a huge opportunity from march next year to set up an entirely new transatlantic hub at lgw, ba will never give up lgw because it would give someone else too much of an opportunty.

as for all this rubbish about t5 and consolidating the business etc etc, when t5 opens ba is already too big to be accomodated, and has said the bilateral flights (ib and qs) will be housed in t3 with the other oneworld carriers, why would they try to cram even more in, would they even fit?
where would the a\c go?

why do routes even have to be moved from lhr to lgw, why can't we have entirely new routes or even relaunch some?

give us some of those nice new 787s in the a/c order and stick your fingers firmly in vs's pie, bring back havana, and rio, stick a dubai in for good measure and a nice little jfk. lgw has space, the man power and the energy to meet and overcome anything ba throw at us. lhr and lgw are the same company, it doesn't feel like it some times and i don't know why the company and the unions have perpetuated such negative feelings in the fleets but we are one company.

why can't people at lhr see the opportunity lgw can offer them, we do it cheap so why not send the less lucrative routes to lgw, we will make more of a profit because our cost base is lower, why not send us the nau, ok so it's a 767 but so is the man jfk, a/c can move and we can be trained so why not give us them both, ba's sfg is a huge opportunity for the company they really aren't going to throw it all away now.
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Old 5th Apr 2007, 20:16
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At Last!!!!!!

banewboi,

The debate you provide is a very good one and I'm pleased to see a crew member looking at the facts instead of rumors.

We had a talk with a very senior management and to be honest they said exactly what your saying, they were not expecting the open skies to go ahead as soon as what it did and to be honest what we know today could change tommorow.

It's an interesting point about the slots and how many there is but maybe the open skies has saved Lgw in a way because Ba will not want to have a big carrier at Lgw doing rival routes at very low fares (because of cost base).

Lgw has spent alot of money in order to save alot of money (15million) ie: training recruitment and to be honest the base is the best I've seen it anyway.

Another thing to remember about t5 is it's not another runaway it's a terminal and this in itself does not create slots, yes it's bought some off bmi but I think Ba was panicking when the agreement was reached and wanted to make sure it had a even bigger share of market.

The next six months i'm sure will be very interesting and a lot of change and with that comes alot of rumors, but it's a case of wait and see really and at the end of the day if we were not used to change we would be in the worst business ever.

Thanks for your constructive look on the situation.
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 02:28
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CCM

Hi,

I was just wondering whether anyone could provide me with an insight into the role / responsibilities of a CCM?

I'd be particularly interested to know how the role is perceived / received by CC and would value any information regarding key challenges as seen from your perspective.

I should clarify that I do not currently work for BA but have an interest in this position.

PM's are welcomed.

Thanks
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 08:34
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FYI T5 is going to create many problems as it has been over engineered and the BA project management teams in place a number of whom I know are running around like headless chickens at this time. Many of the key people involved are contracters and many of us at LHR have grave fears as it will not be able to offer or service the supposed levels of customer service. it is already to small with many systems in place that are not up to the task. LGW will continue as when 5 opens it will take 4 to 5 years to sort it out. The majority of the systems are web based / archord and e.g presently the automated rostering system 0n most days shows people that actually have retired to the extent that 40 short a shift is the norm. Once LGW gets its new short haul fleet of EMB 190 you will have better kit than LHR shorthaul so the future is bright there.
Finally the runway 3 project is as far away as it ever was Ferovial have no intention of spending money and the air pollution levels at the proposed area for the runway are some of the worst in the EU. Happy Easter
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 18:32
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who do you think you are lgw not good enough for you,
well i would like to wish you well but with comments like that i wont,
at least i have a job with ba ,
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 12:18
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Talking British Airways recruiting PERMANENT Cabin Crew LHR!!!

I can't find another post on here about this - sorry if there is - but BA are recruiting permanent cabin crew direct into LHR shorthaul!!! so much for never doing that again!

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Old 13th Apr 2007, 12:33
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BA recruitment

sorry to say this but it isn't permanent, it says...commercial!!
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