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Old 25th Mar 2007, 21:26
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Forgiven LOL - I wonder what they will be replaced with though? Maybe extra shorthaul routes or some nice sunshine destinations
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 19:08
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I really hope some long haul destinations but we gotta see if they will defo go yet
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 22:23
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To be honest it's all Galley FM - Whitehall could still withold landing rights in opposition to the EU if the USA don't open up their archaic systems. But I think it is getting more and more likely that we'll wave bye bye to IAH, DFW and ATL however I wouldn't be surprised to see some longhauls replace them. Shorthaul routes in exchange would still leave us overcrewed (in some ways good as I'd imagine it'd result in some SFG crew following the 3 flights to LHR).

However I can't see them sending s/h to us as the ones left are used quite heavily by transfering pax from mainline world wide.

I'd like to see, and think it is more likely, some longhaul holiday destinations coming down. Perhaps some nice beachy places please!

It's nto just wishful thinking I just think there is more to consider than slot spaces ie. crew compliments ramp space for more longhaul aircraft (esp when they are already ordering for current expansion) I dunno just my two penneth worth - sure somebody will tell me I'm talking twaddle!
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 23:53
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who knows what will happen, ba may send shorthaul services such as cdg, ams, ath, sof, bud, prg, lca, down to lgw as they are mainly leisure routes and have little connecting traffic.
nas wouldnt go to lgw as they cant get a 777 into pls or gcy and they are the real earners 4 ba on this route.
mru - goes on a 747 packed all the time!!! could go daily on a 777 but then ba would need to get a bunked aircraft down to lgw.

whatever happens im sure that it will be the worst deal for ba lgw staff as they always get screwed over.
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 10:02
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle1561959.ece

interesting article, confirms that dfw atl and iah will go to lhr.

what will lgw get?????? condition of lgw joining nsp are that they are frozen from transfering for 2 years.
so whats gonna happen
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 17:32
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Hey mate - where did u get the info on the transfers being forzen for 2 years we were assured a list would open this winter and we would see movement within the next 18 months - this is manager speak though??

As I have no reason to doubt your info I recon there are a significant ammount of crew who would be interested/furious to learn about this as it is certianly not the information we were given!

Should have taken that place with Emirates.............................

In addition does this mean these end of summer temps that are confirmed to be coming online would be sticking up at LHR - as one of last years temps think I would be chuffing furious if this happened as I'd imaigne a lot of EF LHR would be????
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 18:41
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it was an greement when sfg was set up, 2 years frozen 2 get it up and running. i was told about it by the union when they were fighting for sfg to be in the nsp.
temps cant stay, the only reason they get direct entry to lhr ww is because they are temps, thats why unions couldnt do anything about it last year when everyone kicked off. they may get offered euro lhr, or sfg to alow for fleet xfers. but who knows.
im sure one thing u have learnt is that ba can break the rules, do whatever it wants, whatever pis*es off the most crew
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 19:05
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Learnign it a bit more each day - thing is EF lhr is where I want to go not WW right away and an influx of temps would put that to bed.

Since I started with the company so many different things. I was always supposed to be perm ef lhr but did it happen? did it ..........

Why can't they say they respect the crew community and actualy respect us at the same time - absolute f**k wits - watching bridget jones right now and I always like it when she says that.

Honesty is free yet BA don't seem to be able to afford it!
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 19:34
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exxuse me but the temps should be offered only LGW so people from Gatwick can come to LHR EF or WW. LHR EF should not be an option specially when you have people waiting to go to EF from SFG! If they do that we ll lose every respect i had for them! which i dont anymore anyway!
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 19:49
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newbagr, no one forced you to go to LGW and I think its unfair to say temps should not be offered EF LHR. LGW has recruited many times and I along with many people have never applied as I dont want to be based there. There may be a chance that you can get transferred to LHR but that is not the base where you originally took the job therefore you should not expect all recruitment to stop just cos you are waiting for an xfer.
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 20:14
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well lets put it that way japanair!I didnt really want to live off credit cards and earn a lot less than i was earning at LHR on the temp contract of 6 month! I signed to go to LGW that was the only choice and i am gonna wait for my side to return whenever! As i didnt get offered to stay and even colleagues of mine who did 6 months contract at LHR EF didnt too i believe this year temps shouldnt be offered either. At least this will create a balanced flow of transfers at steady rate and this will benefit everyone! I am sorry but if you d like LHR then you should wait like the rest for your turn!
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Old 27th Mar 2007, 21:12
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lets not fight amongst ourselves!!!! we all seem to be on different fleets than we actualy want, and recruiting temps seems to screw our plans right up.
wheni joined it was a case of u did ur stint on euro and then got ww, well that seems not to be the case. isuggest u email ur views to STS or email martin blinkhorn he is the one who is in charge of sorting out lhr ww and the temps, [email protected]

this is the email he sent me!!!

Simon passed me your email relating to whether we are due to recruit
temporary cabin crew into Worldwide this year. The number you quoted is not
a number I recognise, however it is currently the plan that we will be
recruiting temporary cabin crew late summer into the World Wide fleet.

We will aslo be transfering cabin crew from Eurofleet to Worldwide. These
decision have been taken to cover a period when we expect to be increasing
our worldwide main crew requirement, and then subsequently seeing a
reduction. We are still finalising the numbers. The number we take depends
on the pace of initiatives taking place and what happens to cabin crew
attendance during the summer.

Hope this is helpful

Best regards

Martin
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 10:02
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Why not leave?

Look, I'm going to ask a pretty obvious question: - If you are so unhappy at BA, why don't you leave? If you think that you are very hard done by, find another airline that will treat you so much better!? Easy! Ba will be happy and you will be happy, everyone will be happy! You don't have to suffer!
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 10:37
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Guys little confussed.com
Just say I had to apply for the 6 months WWLHR Contract will I be kept on at LGW ? for one reason its good as i can do my training at LHR ( IF I GET THE JOB ) as I live close to Heathrow and then I don't mind flying from Gatwick .

I dont understand why does British Airways do this stupid 6 month contract for WW as there are loads of crew on EF who would like to do it (Permanent of course ). What is the problem in taking on more crew at LHREF and and moving crew up into worldwide ?As I don't work for BA this might be a stupid Question but from an out side observation all this does not make sense .

Smell the Coffee , cheers for your PM !!
Big Thank you ..

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Old 28th Mar 2007, 11:33
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Thanks for the reply, smellthecoffee and everybody else.
I was just nosey and didn't understand it at all but your information sheds a bit of light on it.
I have to say that it doesn't sound that great to work for BA (to me) and I'm surprised at this because I always thought they would be one of the great ones to work for...
Well, each to his own -as long as you BA people are happy :-)
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 15:02
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sweety - people ar unhappy at ba because they make up the rules as the go along, and then move the goal posts and break them, ba have a habbit of upsetting its crew, i have worked for a few airlines and ba have to be the worst at looking after and recognising their staff.
the people and routes are fab , i love my job but wouldnt p*ss on ba if they were on fire
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 15:07
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I think it seriously depends on what base you work at as to whether it's good or not to work for BA. Personally I love it, I don't think it could get much better, but that's cause I'm at LHR WW. I think it's a bit different down at SFG though. It's a shame that the company treats them so differently when we are in fact all the same company! Who knows what the future holds though? Things could well change up at LHR if the company get their way!
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 17:10
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I have to say that it doesn't sound that great to work for BA (to me)
This is just it, what was left of the 'get paid more to do less' airline has probably gone for good (I previously worked much harder for less money at a LCC).

I joined BA 2 years ago when they were recruiting for permanent LHREF crew; since about 1 year ago, permanent recruitment seems to have come to an end for the LHR base...it's not surprising given the very generous terms that people at this base are still enjoying today; unfortunately, Single Fleet is the way forward; it brings folk down at LGW more in line with what crew at most other airlines have already been doing for years...hard work for not as much money.....

I feel really sorry for the new recruits....I love it at BA, but that's partly because here at LHR we nightstop all over Europe, don't work overly hard and get paid rather well (anyone who disagrees needs a major reality check...or to show their rosters to anyone outside BA.... )

So if deciding whether to join BA on SF, take all of the above into account...I'm sure it's not the worst airline out there, but it may no longer be MUCH better than anyone else....still, there IS an opportunity to move up to LHR eventually and with it, to fly to many more destinations worldwide; I hear the LGW crew are a fab bunch (flown with a few ex-LGW peeps), and at least at EF LHR, we're also nice
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 18:53
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Essentially the reason they don't transfer EF into WW just for the summer is that - it would mean takig a large group offline to convert them twice (to and from WW) We had 300 temps last year could you imagine 300 people offline for a week to convert them - I think it would be costly and oeprationally challenging. So they take summer temps on direct into WW - they can only take temps on as there is an agreement with the Union that movement into that fleet only comes from transfers.

Anyway this from a horses mouth yesterday. "We have no plans to recruit directly to LHR for permanent contracts now or in the forseeable future. Rumours of a transfer hold for 2 years at SFG are not true it was a point that was never accepted as it was not operationally advantageous. The transfer list will open in October/Winter 2007 but speed of transfer relies on LHR Turnover. All permanent recruitment will be for LGW"

In addtion - we are moaning as it's a British passtime, and we are British Airways!! - the money at SFG isn't great but I know it's a fair bit more than the number 1's at Flybe get paid for example, and we work a lot less hard than all the other crew at Gatwick.

It's a great job - in fact I really enjoy it but If you are used to LHR BA wages it's hard to convert which is the real reason some of us are complaining.

Please don't be put off by our bit ching you'll enjoy yourlself loads online esp when you spend 2 or 3 days on the Hilton Resort Beach in Barbados just a stroll from your room in this wonderful Hotel and BA are paying for you to be there......
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Old 28th Mar 2007, 19:14
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matt..interesting ...does this come from a manager like that email we saw regarding the temps for the end of the summer??
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